

Building Scale
Will Foret, Justin Neagle
We interview successful Architecture, Engineering, and Construction (AEC) business leaders to learn how they use people, processes, and technology to scale their businesses.
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Jun 13, 2023 • 59min
Mastering Structure Before You Scale: Insights from Odyssey Founder Mark Sheeran
In this episode, we are honored to have Mark Sheeran, founder of Odyssey Advisors, who shares his journey in the AEC industry. Mark emphasizes the importance of having a structure for decision-making and accountability. Our discussion ranges from identifying core functions within a business to delegating tasks and building a leadership team that is effectively coordinated. We explore the Greiner Curve and how it applies to managing a growing organization. Mark also shares his insights on the impact of technology on the construction industry and the importance of cybersecurity.
Connect with Mark:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjsheeran/
Website: https://www.odysseyadvisors.us/
Email: mark@odysseyadvisors.us
Connect with Justin & Will:
Will's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willforet/
Justin's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justneagle/
Learn More & Connect With Spot Migration:
Website: https://www.spotmigration.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/co
(0:00) Introduction to the Building Scale podcast and hosts, Justin Neagle and Will Foret
(2:45) Guest Mark Sheeran's journey into the AEC industry and the inception of Odyssey Advisors
(10:18) Importance of structure, identifying core functions and the role of a visionary in scaling a business
(25:17) The role of an operating system in business and its key components
(31:10) Impact of business size on leadership structure and the importance of technology in business operations
(37:57) Emotional aspects of leadership, the role of empathy and the importance of regular meetings and accountability in business growth
(44:05) Scalability of business structures and the role of different business operating systems in growth and scaling
(50:30) The navy seals and army analogy for Odyssey's services; transitioning from a fractional to a full-time COO
(51:08) The impact of technology on AEC businesses, including cybersecurity
(54:12) Mark Sheeran's advice to his younger self and how to get in touch with him
(58:04) Wrap up, reminder about the three pillars of scaling a business and information on how to book a call with Building Scale for IT and cybersecurity strategy consultation

May 30, 2023 • 1h 4min
Tech & Software Transforming Construction with Yves Frinault
Are you curious about how technology and software are transforming the construction industry? Look no further than the Building Scale podcast! In our latest episode, we welcome guest Yves Frinault, CEO and co-founder of Fieldwire, a construction field management platform used in over 100 countries. Yves shares his experience witnessing the construction industry's lack of progress technologically and how Fieldwire is changing that. Our conversation covers everything from the company's acquisition by Hilti to the challenges of maintaining company values as the organization grows in size. We even discuss the importance of choosing the right software for your construction needs. Don't miss out on this informative and inspiring episode of Building Scale!
Connect with Yves Frinault:
Yves LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/yvesfrinault
Fieldwire LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/fieldwirelabs
Hilti LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/hilti
Fieldwire Website: www.fieldwire.com
(0:00) Introduction and guest background: Steve Rena, founder of Fieldwire
(10:38) Balancing work and personal interests: Gaming and construction
(12:44) Early challenges in scaling a company: Financial risks and investor support
(18:44) Maintaining company culture and boldness during and after acquisition
(29:27) Preserving company culture and values during business growth
(38:08) Discussion on current issues and future innovation in the construction industry
(1:00:13) Reflections and advice: The value of risk-taking and embracing the unknown in business
(1:30:00) Process implementation for business growth in AEC businesses
(1:50:00) Case study: Successful scaling in an engineering firm
(2:20:00) Recap and conclusion of the episode
(2:30:00) Sponsor: Sponsor name

May 16, 2023 • 60min
Building Diversity and Scaling Success in Construction with the Federation of Women Contractors' Jaemie Neely
Discover the Building Scale podcast's latest episode that dives into the importance of diversity in the construction industry. In this episode, Will and Justin interview Jaemie Neely, the Executive Director of the Federation of Women Contractors (FWC), who shares her experience in the industry and the history of FWC. With its three pillars of legislation, networking, and technical support, the FWC advocates for diversity in the industry and connects women-owned businesses to construction opportunities.
Connect with Jaemie Neely:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaemieneely/
Website: https://fwcchicago.com/
(0:00) Introduction to the podcast, hosts, and guest Jamie Neely
(5:00) Overview of Federation of Women Contractors and its impact
(15:00) Discussion on the controversial bond threshold increase
(20:00) Importance of KPIs and networking opportunities in the AEC sector
(25:00) FWC's educational initiatives and support services
(30:00) Challenges faced by small women contractors and solutions
(35:00) Addressing cash flow and labor shortage issues in the construction industry
(41:00) The need for diversity and representation in the construction industry
(46:00) Role of technology in construction and compliance challenges
(56:00) Jamie's advice to her younger self and contact information
(59:00) Closing remarks and call to action for listeners

May 2, 2023 • 58min
Collaborating and Standardizing to Scale with Kelly Lazuka, CEO of Fullerton Engineering
Building Scale Podcast: Kelly Lazuka on Business Growth in AEC" - Explore how CEO Kelly Lazuka scales businesses using people, process, and technology. With 23 years in the wireless industry, she discusses overcoming challenges, fostering team collaboration, and building strong company culture. Learn about automation, project management, and the importance of trust, communication, and diversity in the workplace. A must-listen episode for insights into driving business success.
Connect with Kelly Lazuka:
Kelly's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-lazuka-b4abb294/
Website: https://www.fullertonengineering.com/
Email: Klazuka@fullertonengineering.com
Connect with Justin & Will:
Will's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willforet/
Justin's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justneagle/
Learn More & Connect With Spot Migration:
Website: https://www.spotmigration.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spot-migration
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spotmigration
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Spotmigration
(0:00) Introduction and overview of the podcast's mission
(0:32) Sponsor: Episode's Sponsor
(1:07) Interview with Kelly Lazuka: Career journey, transition to sales, and becoming CEO of Fullerton Engineering
(13:08) Improving collaboration and operational efficiency at Fullerton Engineering
(27:30) The role of empowerment, trust, and a hybrid work model in team management
(32:28) Changes in leadership and team meetings during the pandemic
(36:30) Sponsor: Reminder to subscribe
(37:30) Scaling businesses: The role of standardization, training, and adjusting sales goals
(41:04) Managing costs in AEC: Outsourcing, offshoring, and vendor selection
(46:59) Leveraging technology and automation in the AEC business
(52:46) Reflections on a 20-year career in the AEC industry and being a woman in the industry
(56:52) Recap of the episode and call to action: Sharing the episode
(57:10) Invitation to book a call for IT and cybersecurity strategy

Apr 18, 2023 • 1h 3min
Investors, Business Leaders, and a Network of Talented Professionals, One Freedom with Jon Lowrance
Join us as we delve into Jon Lowrence's journey as CEO of One Freedom, a construction-related business acquisition firm. Jon discusses scaling businesses through people, processes, and technology, emphasizing IT maintenance, task delegation, and the human element in business. He offers practical tips on acquisitions, due diligence, and financing, highlighting the significance of relationships with previous owners and productivity enhancement. This episode also covers the essentials of communication, culture, and technology investment, including cybersecurity prevention. An enlightening session for anyone interested in business growth and effective management.
(0:00) Introduction and mission of Building Scale
(1:31) Interview with guest John Lawrence: His journey and the origin of 1 Freedom
(7:41) Process of acquiring a company: Learning from mistakes and balancing processes
(15:45) Finance and relationship management in acquisitions
(22:26) Strategies for business growth: Delegation, business development, and finance
(31:23) Communication in business: Its importance and impact on growth
(38:55) The influence of ownership change on company culture
(43:00) Role of IT in business: Due diligence, cybersecurity, and outsourcing
(57:12) The cost and benefits of investing in professional IT services
(1:00:07) Reflections and advice from 20 years in the industry
(1:02:01) Contacting Jon Lowrance and closing remarks

Apr 4, 2023 • 1h 3min
Meg Tidd is Building Scale by Focusing on Community, Sustainability, and Investing in People at VIP Structures
Dive into our interview with Meg Tidd, CEO of VIP Structures, discussing the integration of design and construction. Explore key topics like aligning with like-minded partners, creating job opportunities in underserved communities, and the importance of self-care. Meg shares insights on making small yet impactful community and environmental changes, adapting to remote work due to COVID-19, and the challenges of scaling a business with a focus on operations and infrastructure. A must-listen for AEC professionals seeking practical advice and innovative strategies.
(0:00) Introduction and Purpose of the Building Scale podcast
(1:08) Guest Introduction: Meg Tidd, CEO of VIP Structures
(6:23) Meg Tidd's Career Path and Vision for VIP Structures
(13:09) VIP Structures' Community Engagement and Business Strategy
(15:30) Workplace Well-being and Employee Engagement at VIP Structures
(18:33) Scaling Business and Community Impact at VIP Structures
(26:25) VIP Structures' Unique Approach to Scaling and Leadership Styles
(36:03) Sponsor Break
(36:40) Meg Tidd's Transition from CMO to COO and Challenges Faced
(42:04) Establishing Standard Operating Procedures and Transitioning to Remote Work
(51:32) Utilizing Technology for Business Scalability and Future Plans
(59:09) Final Thoughts and Advice to Younger Self

Mar 21, 2023 • 60min
Increase Cashflow, Reduce Risks, and Save Costs on Construction Projects with Cian Brennan
In this episode of Building Scale, Wil and Justin interview Cian Brennan, the founder of Quantum Contract Solutions. Cian's company helps construction companies reduce risk on projects, help with cash flow, and cut costs. In the podcast, they talk about how he worked for many oil and gas companies and how this experience helped him create Quantum. Quantum was born in 2019 with the goal of helping smaller general contractors or subcontractors on bigger projects sign better contracts. The focus is on increasing cash.
Connect with Cian:
Website: https://quantumcontractsolutions.com/
Podcast: https://constructionsecrets.io/podcast
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/contractreviews/
Connect with the Justin & Will
Will's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willforet/
Justin's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justneagle/
Learn More & Connect With Spot Migration - Website: https://www.spotmigration.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spot-migrationFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/spotmigrationYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Spotmigration
(0:00) Introduction and Overview of Building Scale podcast
(1:07) Guest Introduction: Cian Brennan and Quantum Contract Solutions
(4:19) The Role of Quantum in the Construction Industry and its Global Expansion
(13:04) Strategies for Scaling and Systemizing the Sales Team at Quantum
(20:08) Common Traits Among Successful Construction Companies Globally
(24:17) The Role and Challenges of Family-owned Businesses in Construction Industry
(28:00) Understanding the Hierarchy and Profitability in Construction Contracts
(35:10) Key Terms in Construction Contracts and Importance of Understanding Them
(45:32) Reading Recommendation: Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss
(46:34) Leveraging Technology and AI in the AEC Business
(56:15) Cian Brennan's Advice for Smaller Companies and Reflection on His Business Journey
(59:00) Sign Off and Invitation for Listeners to Improve their Company's Technology Pillar

Mar 7, 2023 • 53min
The Franchise Advantage: How it Can Help Scale Your Construction Business with Mike Peters
This podcast is a must-listen for anyone who is looking to create freedom in their lives. In it, Mike Peters, a partner at Alair Homes, talks about the importance of freedom and how it is something everyone wants and can have. He also discusses how important it is to have trust within a company. This episode is packed with valuable insights to help you create the business and life you are dreaming about.
Connect with Mike Peters:
Email: mike.peters@alairhomes.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-peters-76191580/
Connecr with Alair:
Website: https://www.alairhomes.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/alair-homes
Connect with the Justin & Will:
Will's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willforet/
Justin's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justneagle/
Learn More & Connect With Spot Migration:
Website: https://www.spotmigration.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spot-migration
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spotmigration
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Spotmigration
(0:00) Introduction and Background of Guest, Mike Peters
(6:00) The Journey of Joining and Growing with Alaire Homes
(14:12) Introduction and Impact of Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) in Alaire Homes
(19:45) Importance of Freedom and Innovation in Personal and Professional Growth
(26:56) Key to Success: Right People in Right Seats and Continuous Improvement
(44:05) Bonus Structure as a Team Motivation Tool
(52:30) Adapting to an Intergenerational Workforce and Benefits of Franchising
(58:30) Implementation and Management of Proprietary Project Management Software

Feb 21, 2023 • 1h 11min
How to Create Superfans for Your Business by Focusing on What Makes You Unique with Brittany Hodak
Are you looking for ways to make your business more successful? If so, then you won't want to miss this episode of Building Scale. In it, Brittany Hodak reveals the secrets to creating superfans for your business. You'll learn why customer feedback is so important and how you can use it to improve your business. Hodak also stresses the importance of using hyphens in your writing to make it more clear and more concise.
Connect with the Justin & Will:
Will's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willforet/
Justin's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justneagle/
Learn More & Connect With Spot Migration:
Managed IT Services & Support In Chicago, IL
https://www.linkedin.com/company/spot-migration
(0:00) Introduction to Building Scale podcast and guest Britney Hodak
(8:04) Steps to creating super fans for your business and the importance of focusing on your unique 'superpower'
(14:40) The importance of storytelling in business and implementing the SUPER model
(20:30) Using technology to manage and enhance key client relationships
(25:55) Sponsor: Autodesk Construction Cloud
(27:22) Creating a positive client experience and the power of personalization
(34:40) The importance of consistency in customer service and overcoming challenges
(44:25) Designing intentional experiences for your clients and the concept of 'repeat' in customer service
(54:26) Leveraging technology for customer experience and applying the SUPER framework in life
(1:00:44) Dealing with differentiation in small and large organizations and leveraging AI technology
(1:06:59) The importance of people and relationships in business and navigating criticism
(1:10:10) The power of superfans in business and marketing and closing remarks.

Feb 7, 2023 • 43min
Reflecting on what we are Learning from our Podcast Guests
On this episode your hosts Will and Justin recap Season 3. The things that you can learn from other business owners and leaders can be second to none and the last few months have proved very fruitful to our education.
Connect with the Justin & Will:
Will's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willforet/
Justin's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justneagle/
Learn More & Connect With Spot Migration:
Managed IT Services & Support In Chicago, IL
https://www.linkedin.com/company/spot-migration
(0:00) Introduction to the Building Scale podcast
(1:14) Scaling businesses of different sizes and goal setting
(5:41) Acquisition process and importance of an independent fiduciary board
(10:00) Introspection and hiring a COO for business growth
(15:12) Mindset shift and the "yes and" attitude in AEC business growth
(18:24) Case Study: Julian Mike from Chicago Light Foret and his unique business journey
(22:26) Role of EOS and partnerships in AEC business success
(26:27) Leveraging data for business agility and quick decision making in AEC businesses
(30:16) Will Foret's speaking engagements on technology and cybersecurity in the AEC industry
(39:07) Preview of upcoming guests and topics for the next season of Building Scale
(41:44) Cybersecurity education for AEC businesses and episode wrap-up


