Product Talk
Products That Count
Produced by Products That Count, a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products, this podcast is an award-winning show by and for product minds, with millions of downloads and a 5-star rating on most major platforms. Each of the 300+ episodes features a product leader interviewing another product leader and exploring what it takes to build great products. Recent ones feature the Chief Product Officers of Brex, Glassdoor, Experian and more.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
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Jan 5, 2026 • 57min
The 3-Part Framework That Made Grammarly a Great Product | Grammarly & Superhuman CPO
Noam Levinsky, the Chief Product Officer at Grammarly and Superhuman, reveals the ambitious transformation of Grammarly from a writing assistant to a versatile AI-powered productivity suite. He discusses the importance of building deeply integrated AI products and the three key traits of their new assistants. Noam illustrates how such technology can streamline workflows, like scheduling meetings, and emphasizes emotional satisfaction as a key to customer retention. He also shares insights on company strategy, hiring practices, and the challenges of maintaining entrepreneurial spirit post-acquisition.
Jan 2, 2026 • 39min
Walmart Fmr CPO on Transforming Retail with AI
How do product leaders think big enough to compete in an AI-native world? In this podcast hosted by Sid Shaik, Walmart U.S. former Chief Product Officer John Alferness joins us again and speaks on scaling AI at retail and enterprise scale. He breaks down how CPOs can separate core AI capabilities from applications, choose the right moonshots, and use AI to unlock personalization, efficiency, and growth in low-margin businesses.
Dec 30, 2025 • 50min
Walmart Fmr CPO on Thinking Big in the AI Era
John Alferness, a product executive with a rich history at Google, Lyft, Pinterest, and Walmart U.S., dives into transformative strategies for massive-scale product growth. He discusses the importance of thinking big and setting audacious goals, sharing insights on balancing risk and innovation. Alferness breaks down the moonshot concept, emphasizes cross-functional collaboration, and outlines how to challenge conventional fundamentals. He also highlights the vital role AI plays in driving rapid change, urging leaders to embrace bold experimentation while managing the innovator's dilemma.
Dec 29, 2025 • 38min
Nutanix VP & GM on Building Differentiated Infrastructure Products
What does it take to build products that stand out in one of the most technical spaces in the industry? In this podcast hosted by Cassio Sampaio, Nutanix Vice President & General Manager Dan Ciruli speaks on how product leaders can guide customers through complex infrastructure decisions and stand out in ecosystems dominated by hyperscalers. He explores the realities of legacy systems, the skills PMs need to thrive in deeply technical environments, and the opportunities emerging across the evolving infrastructure stack.
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Dec 22, 2025 • 35min
Walmart Sr Product Lead on Transforming Enterprise Portfolio Systems
Sangita Raj, a Senior Product Lead at Walmart with over 15 years of experience, dives into her journey transforming internal portfolio systems into productivity powerhouses. She shares insights on transitioning from engineering to product leadership, with key lessons from T-Mobile, Microsoft, and Amazon. Sangita discusses her innovative work at Walmart in user research, data integration, and driving adoption metrics like a 44% drop in duplicate reporting. Passionate about mentorship, she emphasizes continuous learning and her social impact work tackling period poverty in India.
Dec 19, 2025 • 39min
Google Product Lead on Building AI Products That Actually Work
Alankar Agnihotri, a product leader at Google specializing in AI-driven in-car experiences, shares insights on building effective AI products. He debunks the myth that AI is magic, emphasizing the importance of context and data. Alankar illustrates how AI often augments expertise in fields like self-driving cars and healthcare. He discusses the shift to probabilistic design and the necessity of collaboration among teams. Lastly, he highlights the rewarding aspects of product work, particularly the impact on safety and small businesses.
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Dec 17, 2025 • 51min
Pendo CPO on What the Best CPOs Get Right When Scaling Enterprise Software
Trisha Price, Chief Product Officer at Pendo, brings over 20 years of experience in product development and SaaS. She shares insights on how top CPOs differentiate themselves, emphasizing the need to align product goals with company outcomes. Trisha discusses the benefits of blending product-led growth with sales efforts and highlights the importance of measuring outcomes rather than just project progress. Her take on leveraging AI for faster prototyping and user insights, along with strategies for scaling product teams, makes this a must-listen for aspiring product leaders.
Dec 15, 2025 • 33min
Retool Head of Technical Customer Experience on Enabling Highly Complex Products and Driving Adoption and Expansion.
In this discussion, Chris Harry, the Head of Technical Customer Experience at Retool, shares insights from his 20 years of experience with enterprise clients. He emphasizes the vital partnership between customer-facing and product teams for delivering real impact. Chris highlights the importance of quick wins to build trust, how to respect engineers' autonomy while providing support, and the need for a strong feedback loop. He also stresses involving customer teams early in the development process to enhance credibility and effectiveness.
Dec 12, 2025 • 47min
Outshift by Cisco CPO & VP of Product on Building Breakthroughs Inside a $60B Enterprise
Papi Menon, VP and Chief Product Officer of OutShift by Cisco, leads innovation for one of the world's largest enterprises. He reveals how to unlock breakthroughs like agentic AI and quantum networking within a massive corporation. Papi shares strategies for identifying promising ideas while navigating internal pressures and creating strategic optionality. He discusses the importance of a dedicated go-to-market team and the culture of high-energy incubation, as well as the risks and time horizons when pursuing tech ventures. His vision emphasizes collaboration and governance in shaping the future of enterprises.
Dec 10, 2025 • 43min
Propel VP of Product Marketing on Building Products for High-Stakes Industries
Tom Shoemaker, VP of Product Marketing at Propel, brings his expertise in engineering and product commercialization to the forefront. He discusses how product teams handle high-stakes environments where failure is not an option. Key topics include the challenges OEMs face in time-to-market and quality assurance, and Propel's innovative integration of PLM, QMS, and AI. Tom also shares insights on leveraging win-loss calls for product improvement and offers advice on combining technical skills with business acumen for success.
