Product Talk
Products That Count
Produced by Products That Count, a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products, this podcast is an award-winning show by and for product minds, with millions of downloads and a 5-star rating on most major platforms. Each of the 300+ episodes features a product leader interviewing another product leader and exploring what it takes to build great products. Recent ones feature the Chief Product Officers of Brex, Glassdoor, Experian and more.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
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Feb 18, 2026 • 41min
Terrament Co-Founder on Leveraging Existing Technologies to Scale Long Term Energy Storage
Eric Chaves, co-founder and COO of Terrament, is an engineer-designer who built a gravity-based long-duration energy storage concept. He discusses a gravity train system with shaft rails and generators, using proven mining tech and modular, factory-built components. He covers pilot and scale timelines, hiring the right co-founder, and why diverse teams and data centers are key early opportunities.
Feb 16, 2026 • 31min
Decision Alpha CEO on Behavioral Economics and the Future of Pricing in the AI Era
How should product leaders rethink pricing in an AI-driven world where value, speed, and automation are constantly shifting? In this podcast hosted by EY Platform Operations Lead Justin Leibow, Decisionalpha CEO Etinosa Agbonlahor speaks on behavioral economics and the evolving psychology of pricing. She explores how companies can move beyond cost-plus models, design pricing as a strategic feature, and adapt monetization strategies as AI reshapes outcomes, efficiency, and customer expectations.
Jan 30, 2026 • 60min
Apollo.io CPO on Why What Got You to $40M Won't Get You to $200M
Bela Stepanova, Chief Product Officer who scaled product and teams through hypergrowth, shares practical scaling stories. She explores why playbooks fail past $40M and the mindset shifts needed. Topics include avoiding silos, rethinking roadmaps, business-minded product decisions, non-negotiable technical foundations, and how AI alters product roles.
Jan 26, 2026 • 53min
Inside An AI Acquisition: How Yana Welinder Built & Sold Kraftful To Amplitude
Yana Welinder, founder of Kraftful and now Head of AI at Amplitude, built AI-native product experiences and led a startup-to-acquisition journey. She discusses early GPT prototyping, finding a real use case in product feedback analysis, staying focused to avoid AI hype, founder-led growth via social media, and scaling AI inside a larger company while preserving startup culture.
Jan 19, 2026 • 36min
Meta Product Leader on Driving Clarity in Complex Product Organizations
Rick Sanchez, a product leader at Meta specializing in contextual AI for wearables, shares insights from his multifaceted career in media and gaming. He emphasizes that clarity is paramount for product managers, guiding teams through complex challenges. Rick discusses the balance between storytelling and problem-solving, highlighting how diverse experiences enable better leadership. He also advises adapting methods to specific problems and encourages embracing risks in career choices. This conversation reveals the artistry behind effective product management.
Jan 14, 2026 • 44min
American Express VP of Product on Building a Scalable B2C Growth Engine
Jose Quesada, Vice President of Product Management at American Express, shares his insights from over a decade of scaling their mobile app and crafting digital strategy. He discusses the crucial differences between vision and strategy, emphasizing the need for alignment. Jose outlines how to ground ambitious goals in execution and the importance of ongoing testing and customer feedback. He also delves into balancing personalization with scalability and how AI can enhance product workflows, making it a strategic partner rather than a replacement.
Jan 12, 2026 • 48min
Datycs CEO on Transforming Unstructured Clinical Data into Real-Time Healthcare Intelligence
Dr. Srini Rao, CEO of Datycs, brings his expertise in AI and healthcare data to tackle the challenge of transforming unstructured clinical data into actionable insights. He discusses the importance of interoperability and how Datycs processes millions of clinical notes. The conversation highlights the roles of NLP and GenAI in regulated environments, building healthcare-focused LLMs, and the future of real-world evidence. Srini also shares valuable advice for healthcare entrepreneurs aiming to navigate the industry's complexities.
Jan 9, 2026 • 42min
Calectra CEO & Co-Founder on Decarbonizing Manufacturing with Thermal Battery and Sustainable Heat
Pauliina Meskanen, CEO and co-founder of Calcetra, is on a mission to decarbonize the manufacturing sector with innovative thermal batteries. She dives into the urgent need for emission reduction in high-temperature industries like cement. Pauliina shares insights on the importance of customer discovery and strategic partnerships. She also discusses her experience in securing both VC funding and grants, highlighting the role of renewables in shaping the future of industrial energy. Plus, she offers tips for newcomers in the climate tech space!
Jan 7, 2026 • 38min
Cognizant Senior Director on Building Responsible AI Gateways for Healthcare at Scale
Elliot Papadakis, Senior Director at Cognizant, leads generative AI initiatives in healthcare. He shares insights on building the TriZetto AI Gateway, focusing on responsible AI practices that enhance trust and transparency. Elliot emphasizes the importance of efficiency in healthcare and how AI can streamline workflows while reducing costs. He discusses the balance between innovation and accountability, highlighting the potential of AI to combat fraud and improve interoperability among systems. His vision aims to make healthcare more accessible and effective.
Jan 5, 2026 • 57min
The 3-Part Framework That Made Grammarly a Great Product | Grammarly & Superhuman CPO
Noam Levinsky, the Chief Product Officer at Grammarly and Superhuman, reveals the ambitious transformation of Grammarly from a writing assistant to a versatile AI-powered productivity suite. He discusses the importance of building deeply integrated AI products and the three key traits of their new assistants. Noam illustrates how such technology can streamline workflows, like scheduling meetings, and emphasizes emotional satisfaction as a key to customer retention. He also shares insights on company strategy, hiring practices, and the challenges of maintaining entrepreneurial spirit post-acquisition.
