

Product Talk
Products That Count
Produced by Products That Count, a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products, this podcast is an award-winning show by and for product minds, with millions of downloads and a 5-star rating on most major platforms. Each of the 300+ episodes features a product leader interviewing another product leader and exploring what it takes to build great products. Recent ones feature the Chief Product Officers of Brex, Glassdoor, Experian and more.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
About Us: Products that Count is a 501(c)3 nonprofit that helps everyone build great products. It celebrates product excellence through coveted Awards that inspire 500,000+ product managers and honor great products and the professionals responsible for their success. It accelerates the career and rise to the C-suite of 30% of all Product Managers globally by providing exceptional programming – including award-winning podcasts and popular newsletters – for free. It acts as a trusted advisor to all CPOs at Fortune 1000, and publishes key insights from innovative companies, like Capgemini, SoFi, and Amplitude, that turn product success into business success. Learn more at ProductsThatCount.com.
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Dec 9, 2025 • 33min
How to Build an AI Startup on Easy Mode (Moonshot AI's CEO Reveals How)
Aviv Frenkel, Co-founder and CEO of Moonshot AI, shares insights on transforming ecommerce through AI-driven experimentation. He delves into building a no-code platform that autonomously optimizes conversion rates while advocating for a unified tool solution. Aviv highlights the importance of user trust in AI decisions and reveals a case study where a simple design change led to $600K in sales. He also discusses empowering small teams with AI and the significance of a customer-centric approach in startup success.

Dec 8, 2025 • 44min
GoodRx Fmr VP of Product on Leading and Thriving as a Product Leader in the Age of AI
Sandy Huang, a seasoned product leader with over 20 years of experience, including roles at Amazon and GoodRx, shares her insights on thriving in the AI era. She emphasizes the importance of 'people sense'—understanding customers and influencing teams. Sandy discusses time-boxed discovery to enhance delivery speed and execution strategies like ownership and accountability. She highlights the value of non-technical PMs in leveraging logic and customer focus, and predicts that sound judgment will become a critical trait for product leaders as AI evolves.

Dec 5, 2025 • 42min
Tenable VP of Product on Building Secure B2B SaaS Products
Matthew Frank, Vice President of Product and Program Management at Tenable, is on a mission to outsmart adversaries while developing secure B2B SaaS products. He discusses the evolution of exposure management and reveals why identity is becoming the new perimeter in cybersecurity. Matthew dives into the transformative role of AI, highlighting its dual impact on security strategies and threats. His insights shed light on the complexities of building products designed to withstand intelligent attacks.

Dec 2, 2025 • 46min
Elysian Aircraft Co-Founder on Decarbonizing Aviation with EV Batteries
How do you build products that can keep pace with the climate crisis without compromising on speed, innovation, or customer insight? The scale and urgency of the transformation required to fight climate change has never been more clear. Building hardware and software products, acquiring the funding and creating a diverse community to enhance talent capacity and to drive innovation, is essential to tackling this global environmental crisis. In this podcast, Silicon Valley Bank (a division of First Citizens Bank) Climate Tech & Sustainability SVP Maggie Wong will be interviewing Elysian Aircraft Co-Founder & Co-CEO Daniel Rosen Jacobson to discuss decarbonizing aviation industry via EV battery, prioritizing to get customer feedback early, as well as being able to learn and unlearn to succeed in product development.

Dec 1, 2025 • 52min
CPO Rising Series: How a Government CPO is Disrupting Public Sector Tech with Product Thinking
Can product thinking truly transform government services? In this episode of the CPO Rising Series hosted by NEOGOV CPO Denise Hemke, State of Maryland CPO Sheetul Agrawal speaks on reimagining government technology through customer-centric innovation. Sheetul shares her groundbreaking approach to bringing product management principles into public sector digital services, revealing how AI and user-focused design can revolutionize how citizens interact with government platforms.

Nov 28, 2025 • 29min
Iru CTO on Building Better B2B Product Alignment
How do you keep engineering and product aligned while scaling B2B SaaS? In this podcast hosted by Cassio Sampaio, Iru Chief Technology Officer Jimmy Acosta shares his approach to building sustainable, customer-driven roadmaps that balance innovation with reliability. He discusses how engineering leaders can strengthen trust with product teams, manage trade-offs, and create alignment that drives long-term value.

Nov 26, 2025 • 36min
Favor Delivery CPO on Building a Nonlinear Path to Product Leadership
How can diverse career experiences shape a stronger product leader? In this podcast hosted by Rachel Owens, Favor Delivery Chief Product Officer Rachel Losh shares how her unconventional path—from academia and publishing to leading product at Texas's food delivery app—taught her the power of customer empathy, adaptability, and business acumen. Rachel reflects on navigating nonlinear growth, building cross-functional trust, and leading with impact in fast-moving industries.

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Nov 24, 2025 • 49min
CPO Rising Series: ChatPRD Founder Claire Vo on Redefining Product Management in the Age of AI
In this insightful discussion, Claire Vo shares her experience as the CPTO of LaunchDarkly and founder of ChatPRD. She explores the shifting role of product leaders in the age of AI, emphasizing that speed often trumps perfection. Claire discusses the emergence of hybrid roles that blend engineering and product management and highlights the importance of fostering a product-led culture. She also delves into how AI is transforming experimentation and product strategies, predicting a future where technical expertise will be crucial for product management.

Nov 19, 2025 • 49min
Reddit Director of Product on Scaling the Future of Ads with GenAI
What happens when a product leader reimagines an entire ads ecosystem from first principles? In this podcast hosted by Sid Shaik, Reddit Director of Product Management Amit Ghorawat breaks down how he scaled multi-billion-dollar ad businesses and transformed connected TV performance. The conversation explores his pivots across industries, his approach to 10x growth, and how GenAI is reshaping the future of advertising and product leadership.

Nov 18, 2025 • 38min
Atelio SVP of Product on Transforming Product Strategy with North Star Focus and AI Insight
What changes when a product leader builds strategy around a single guiding metric and augments decision-making with AI-driven understanding? In this podcast hosted by Rachel Owens, Atelier by FIS SVP of Product Jon Eisenstein will be speaking on transforming product strategy through North Star metrics and AI-powered insights. Jon shares his entrepreneurial journey and breakthrough approaches to aligning product development with business goals, drawing from his extensive experience across technology, financial services, and startup ecosystems.


