

The DealMachine Real Estate Investing Podcast
David Lecko, Ryan Haywood
Welcome to the DealMachine Podcast, where we help you get more out of your wholesaling business by showing you what’s working around the country.
We talk to real estate investors who are actively closing deals right now. You’ll hear how they generate leads, what their marketing costs look like, how they comp properties, and what their assignment fees actually are. Cold calling. Direct mail. SMS marketing. Dispositions. Hiring. Scaling.
We focus on what’s producing revenue in today’s market — and what isn’t.
If you’re already wholesaling, this will help you tighten your process, improve your margins, and make smarter decisions.
If you’re newer, this gives you visibility into what the business looks like once it’s working. You’ll understand the numbers, the systems, and the mistakes to avoid before you scale.
The goal is simple: more predictable deals and a stronger operation.
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Start a free trial of DealMachine: https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
We talk to real estate investors who are actively closing deals right now. You’ll hear how they generate leads, what their marketing costs look like, how they comp properties, and what their assignment fees actually are. Cold calling. Direct mail. SMS marketing. Dispositions. Hiring. Scaling.
We focus on what’s producing revenue in today’s market — and what isn’t.
If you’re already wholesaling, this will help you tighten your process, improve your margins, and make smarter decisions.
If you’re newer, this gives you visibility into what the business looks like once it’s working. You’ll understand the numbers, the systems, and the mistakes to avoid before you scale.
The goal is simple: more predictable deals and a stronger operation.
Subscribe and leave us a review!
Start a free trial of DealMachine: https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Episodes
Mentioned books

Apr 6, 2026 • 26min
519: 30 Deals In 2 Years—Wholesaling & Flipping
Ian Gibbons breaks down how he went from getting started to completing around 30 wholesales and flips in just a couple years, building his business step by step. He shares how he found his first deals, scaled into cold calling and texting, and built a system that consistently generates opportunities. Toward the end, he reveals a smart way to get into your first flip by partnering with a contractor instead of trying to do everything yourself.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:25 - An Overview Of Ian Gibbons’ Business
1:32 - How He Got Started
5:12 - His Partnership & Using DealMachine
10:01 - Finding Buyers And Building Relationships
14:04 - Deciding What To Flip Vs Wholesale
16:49 - Hiring A Transaction Coordinator
19:14 - Where He Wants To Take His Business
22:11 - Advice For Newbies
23:16 - Using SMS
25:37 - Closing Thoughts
26:00 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Ian Gibbons
https://www.instagram.com/ian__gibbons/
Facebook: Ian Gibbons
https://www.facebook.com/ian.gibbons.3158
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 3, 2026 • 30min
518: $48K In Land Deals in 2 Weeks (No Calls Needed)
Kenny Kamdoum breaks down how he closed $48K in land deals in just two weeks using simple text outreach—no calls, no meetings. He walks through exactly how he finds deals, evaluates land using Zillow, and quickly secures buyers through straightforward marketing. If you’ve been overcomplicating your process, this episode shows a faster, simpler way to get deals done.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:32 - Kenny Kamdoum’s $23k Land Deal
10:57 - The Purchase Agreement & Using Zillow
13:39 - What Makes A Good Land Deal
15:23 - Why He Chose Land
17:23 - The Florida Land Market
17:45 - His $25k Land Deal & Opening Texts
18:52 - Parcels Without Addresses
21:10 - Seller Demographics & Filtering Numbers
25:21 - Working Older Leads
26:06 - Closing Thoughts & Using DealMachine
29:20 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Kenny Kamdoum
https://www.instagram.com/kennykamdoum/
Links: Kenny Kamdoum
https://linktr.ee/kennykamdoum
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Apr 1, 2026 • 15min
517: How To Get 0% Interest Funding for Real Estate
Ari Page from Fund&Grow breaks down how investors are using business credit cards to access 0% interest funding for real estate deals. He explains how the strategy works, what’s changed in today’s tighter credit market, and how to actually get approved. You’ll also learn how to use this funding to pay contractors, fund escrows, and scale without relying on traditional lenders.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:28 - Business Credit Cards
2:54 - The 5 Steps To 0% Business Credit
6:21 - What You Need To Qualify
8:50 - An Example Of The Results
11:22 - What Creditors Look At & Do’s and Don’ts
11:47 - Using Business Cards As Lines Of Credit
14:46 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Ari Page
https://www.instagram.com/aripage3/
Links: Fund&Grow
https://linktr.ee/fundandgrow
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 30, 2026 • 31min
516: Escape Your 9-5 With Real Estate
Ryan Haywood shares how he went from selling shoes and working in a call center to building a real estate business that gave him control over his income and time. With the release of his first book, From Commission to Capital, he breaks down the exact sales principles that carried over into wholesaling—how to talk to sellers, negotiate without being pushy, and actually close deals. You’ll also hear why most people struggle to escape the 9–5 and what it really takes to get your first deals done.
Get Ryan Haywood's Book: https://a.co/d/0gZn8hqB
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:33 - Why Ryan Decided To Write A Book
4:06 - Sales Skills
8:23 - Why He Dominated Sales
13:08 - How His Skills Transferred To Real Estate
16:53 - The Call Center & Selling Fiber Internet
20:44 - Listening & Presenting
25:49 - Extra Sales Tips
28:19 - Closing Thoughts
30:58 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 27, 2026 • 32min
515: Stop Overthinking Your First Rental Property
Antonio Cucciniello, founder of Investarters, has helped over 1 million people get started in real estate—but it took him four years to finally buy his first deal. In this episode, he breaks down what actually holds beginners back, how to overcome analysis paralysis, and the simple framework he uses to go from zero to your first rental. He also shares how he found his first deal, what data matters when picking a market, and the mistakes that slow most investors down.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Antonio Cucciniello’s Tech Job
2:46 - Analysis Paralysis
4:04 - Flipping Vs Buy And Hold
5:21 - His First Deal
10:52 - Why He Finally Decided To Take Action
12:15 - Selecting Markets
14:13 - His Social Media Presence
17:03 - Deciding His Marketing Channels
21:46 - What His Team Looks Like
24:02 - What’s Working Now
25:19 - Working With Hesitant Sellers
27:05 - What Other Investors Are Sleeping On
29:51 - The Most Valuable Thing He’s Learned
32:12 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Antonio Cucciniello
https://www.instagram.com/investarters/
Website: Rentals To Riches
https://www.skool.com/rentalstoriches/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 25, 2026 • 14min
514: The 3 Pillars To Start Closing Wholesale Deals
If you’ve been putting in the work but not seeing deals, Chris Logan lays out the three pillars that actually drive results in wholesaling. Instead of guessing what makes a deal, you’ll learn why starting with buyers changes everything, how to generate consistent seller leads through real conversations, and what it takes to turn those conversations into contracts. From the 100 conversation rule to mastering follow-up and understanding seller motivation, this episode simplifies what most people overcomplicate and shows you how to create predictable deal flow.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:28 - Pillar 1: Find Your Buyers First
3:19 - Pillar 2: How To Get Consistent Leads
8:36 - Pillar 3: Turning Leads Into Deals
14:16 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Chris Logan
https://www.instagram.com/chrisloganrei/
Website: Virtual Wholesaling Made Simple
https://www.virtualwholesalingmadesimple.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 23, 2026 • 14min
513: What To Say When Sellers Push Back
If your calls aren’t turning into deals, it’s not your list—it’s what happens after the seller pushes back. In this episode, Nicholas Nick breaks down what actually happens inside high-volume call centers that have made over 40 million dials, and why most investors fall apart the moment a seller objects. You’ll hear how to handle resistance in real time, what to say (and what not to say), and how to turn more conversations into signed deals, plus the systems behind consistent results—how to work leads the right way, track the numbers that matter, and structure your outreach so you’re not just making calls… you’re closing deals.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:23 - The Fundamentals
1:19 - Single vs Multi-Line Dialers
4:06 - Tracking Your Metrics & Using SMS
6:00 - When A Seller Calls Back
9:31 - The Importance Of Rebuttals
11:51 - A Good Intro Text To Sellers
14:02 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Nicholas Nick
https://www.instagram.com/nicholasnicksays/
Website: Lead Mining Pros
https://www.leadminingpros.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 20, 2026 • 39min
512: Renovation Mistakes That Kill Your Profit (Rehab Tips)
David and Ryan sit down with Or Agassi to break down the renovation decisions that can make or break your deals. They cover how over-renovating eats into your margins, why understanding your buyer matters more than picking high-end finishes, and how to build a repeatable process that keeps your costs under control. Through real-world examples, they show how small decisions during a rehab can be the difference between a profitable deal and one that falls apart.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:23 - An Overview Of Or Agassi’s Business
2:11 - How He Got Started
4:57 - The Tangible Aspect Of Real Estate
6:05 - Finding His First Deal & Good Processes
9:00 - Estimating Rehab Costs
13:25 - Finding Good Contractors
21:15 - Why He Switched To Wholesaling
23:16 - Having Templates For Your Flips
27:06 - What Kai.pro Does
30:21 - Other Renovation Tips
35:39 - Why He Started Kai
37:59 - Closing Thoughts
38:33 - Outro
LINKS:
LinkedIn: Or Agassi
https://www.linkedin.com/in/or-agassi-06670035/
Website: Kai.pro
https://kai.pro/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 18, 2026 • 15min
511: How To Break Into Commercial Real Estate FAST
Commercial real estate feels like the next level—but most investors don’t know how to get there. Paul Thompson from Real Estate 101 breaks down what actually changes when you move beyond single family, why bigger deals can be easier to manage, and how to structure them without relying on banks or needing millions upfront. He also reveals the hidden opportunity with “mom and pop” properties and how to scale faster by focusing on deal structure instead of capital.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:22 - The Monopoly Lesson
1:49 - The 3 Ways To Make Money
3:58 - Paul’s First Deal & The Struggle
5:35 - The Breakthrough & The Hidden Opportunity
9:27 - Bankless Deal Architecture
11:44 - Biggest Concerns
14:03 - The Game Is Still Yours To Win
14:47 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Paul Thompson
https://www.instagram.com/pauldavidthompson/
Website: Commercial Real Estate 101
https://www.skool.com/commercial-real-estate-101/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 16, 2026 • 43min
510: The MASSIVE Real Estate Shift Happening Right Now
A major shift is happening in real estate right now, and most investors still haven’t caught on. In this episode, Thach Nguyen explains how accessory dwelling units (ADUs) are changing the way investors create value and generate cash flow from a single property. By adding additional units to existing homes, investors can turn one deal into multiple rental properties while forcing appreciation and building long-term wealth. Thach breaks down how this strategy works, where the opportunity is emerging across the country, and how investors can find properties with the lot size and layout needed to make it work. He also shares how market cycles, zoning changes, and housing shortages are creating the conditions for this strategy to take off.
Thach's ADU Training: https://learn.springboardtowealth.com/adu
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:14 - The Current State Of ADUs
2:50 - Why Thach Nguyen Is Passionate About It
4:34 - The Land Value & Arizona
7:28 - Why This Is Powerful & How Thach Does It
11:42 - How To Get Financing
13:51 - Keeping ADUs As Rentals
16:48 - How To Find An ADU Deal
19:20 - Focusing On B And C Neighborhoods
20:42 - How To Determine Price
26:19 - The Opportunity Of A Lifetime
30:42 - Prices In Ryan’s Market
32:51 - The Market Clock
40:02 - Thach’s ADU Class
40:50 - Should People Use Social Media?
41:55 - Closing Thoughts
42:58 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Thach Nguyen
https://www.instagram.com/ThachNguyen/
Website: Springboard To Wealth
https://learn.springboardtowealth.com/adu
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/


