The DealMachine Real Estate Investing Podcast

David Lecko, Ryan Haywood
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Mar 16, 2026 • 43min

510: The MASSIVE Real Estate Shift Happening Right Now

A major shift is happening in real estate right now, and most investors still haven’t caught on. In this episode, Thach Nguyen explains how accessory dwelling units (ADUs) are changing the way investors create value and generate cash flow from a single property. By adding additional units to existing homes, investors can turn one deal into multiple rental properties while forcing appreciation and building long-term wealth. Thach breaks down how this strategy works, where the opportunity is emerging across the country, and how investors can find properties with the lot size and layout needed to make it work. He also shares how market cycles, zoning changes, and housing shortages are creating the conditions for this strategy to take off.   Thach's ADU Training: https://learn.springboardtowealth.com/adu   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:14 - The Current State Of ADUs 2:50 - Why Thach Nguyen Is Passionate About It 4:34 - The Land Value & Arizona 7:28 - Why This Is Powerful & How Thach Does It 11:42 - How To Get Financing 13:51 - Keeping ADUs As Rentals 16:48 - How To Find An ADU Deal 19:20 - Focusing On B And C Neighborhoods 20:42 - How To Determine Price 26:19 - The Opportunity Of A Lifetime 30:42 - Prices In Ryan’s Market 32:51 - The Market Clock 40:02 - Thach’s ADU Class 40:50 - Should People Use Social Media? 41:55 - Closing Thoughts 42:58 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: Thach Nguyen https://www.instagram.com/ThachNguyen/   Website: Springboard To Wealth https://learn.springboardtowealth.com/adu   Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Mar 13, 2026 • 32min

509: 4 Objections That Kill Real Estate Deals (It's Not Price)

Handling objections on the phone can make or break a deal. In this episode, sales expert Jen Way walks through the four objections real estate investors hear most often—like “I need to talk to my spouse,” “I need to think about it,” and price pushback—and explains how to get ahead of them before they ever come up. Jen shares how top salespeople stay proactive on calls, ask better questions, and guide conversations so sellers gain clarity on their real reason for selling, making it much easier to reach an agreement.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:24 - Objection 1 6:32 - Objection 2 8:49 - Objection 3 11:50 - Objection 4 13:15 - The Why & The RRR Tactic 17:06 - Jen’s Thoughts On Using Scripts 18:48 - How She Got Into Sales Training 21:15 - The Perfect Candidate For Her Training 22:43 - The Benefit Of Pulling Back 25:03 - Extra Tips From Jen 28:18 - AI Agents 30:38 - Closing Thoughts 31:19 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: Jen Way https://www.instagram.com/salesthejenway/   Facebook: Sales The Jen Way https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesthejenway/   Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Mar 11, 2026 • 15min

508: 2 Land Flips Per Month At $50K Each—Here's How

When Brent Bowers noticed land deals starting to slow down, he made a simple pivot: instead of just selling the land, he started placing brand-new manufactured homes on it. The result was a much larger buyer pool and profits around $50K per deal. In this episode, Brent breaks down how the strategy works, how he finds the right parcels, and the numbers he looks for before buying.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:36 - Why Brent Bowers Changed His Strategy 2:31 - Discovering The Strategy 4:39 - Which Markets Are Working 6:45 - Manufactured Homes With Drywall 7:53 - How He Does It 11:30 - An Example Of A Market 12:56 - How To Get Discounts 14:30 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: Brent Bowers https://www.instagram.com/brentlbowers/   Website: The Land Sharks https://www.thelandsharks.com/   Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Mar 9, 2026 • 11min

507: Why Isn’t Your Marketing Getting Deals Yet?

If you’ve been jumping between marketing strategies or feel like your current channel has stopped producing deals, this episode will help you reset your expectations. David breaks down what he calls the marketing clock — the cycle where strategies like direct mail, SMS, PPC, and other channels rise in popularity, become saturated, and eventually give way to new opportunities. He also explains why most investors quit too early and how much marketing spend it realistically takes before a deal starts to come through.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:24 - Marketing Mistakes 1:34 - The Marketing Clock 4:41 - Stick To One Method 6:17 - How Much Marketing Does It Take? 10:32 - Closing Thoughts 10:51 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Mar 6, 2026 • 13min

506: Slow Flips—Finding Cheap Houses for Mailbox Money

Slow flips are becoming a popular long-term real estate strategy. Instead of flipping quickly, investors buy inexpensive houses and often seller finance them to create steady payments over time. In this episode, David shows DealMachine user George Dorr how to find cheap slow flip opportunities in Virginia using DealMachine’s filters, property data, and outreach tools.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:44 - The Slow Flip Method 2:45 - Setting Up Filters In DealMachine 5:25 - Skip Tracing 6:59 - The DealMachine Dialer 13:10 - Outro   LINKS: Facebook: George Dorr https://www.facebook.com/dorrhomes   Website: George Dorr https://georgedorr.kw.com/   Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Mar 4, 2026 • 15min

505: Proven Land Flipping Playbook In 15 Minutes

If you’ve been thinking about adding vacant land to your real estate business but aren’t sure where to start, this episode gives you a clear path forward. Joe McCall shares his proven system for flipping vacant land, including how to identify markets where land is actively selling, how to find buyers before you ever lock up a deal, how to target the right sellers, and the simple postcard strategy he uses to generate strong response rates. If you want a more predictable approach to land deals instead of guessing on markets, this episode walks you through the entire framework step by step.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:34 - Finding A Good Market 7:48 - Finding Land Buyers 9:44 - Finding Sellers 11:02 - His Postcard + Voicemail Strategy 13:59 - His Metrics With This System 14:53 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: Joe McCall https://www.instagram.com/jvmccall/   Links: Joe McCall https://linktr.ee/joemccall   Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Mar 2, 2026 • 43min

504: 4 Deals Per Month At Age 19—After Dropping Out

At 19 years old, Austin Pertl is closing four wholesale deals per month after dropping out of high school and going all-in on real estate. In this episode, he breaks down how he built consistent deal flow, why he prefers smaller markets over major metros, and how he competes against larger operators without driving everywhere. He shares the sales mindset that sets him apart, what he’d do differently if he started over, and the simple approach that helped him turn early struggles into steady contracts. If you’re trying to get your first deal or scale beyond one or two per month, this episode shows what consistent wholesaling actually looks like.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:32 - An Overview Of Austin Pertl’s Business 2:47 - Reducing Their Marketing Spend 6:01 - Locking Up Deals Virtually 10:59 - Setting Himself Apart From The Competition 15:38 - What He Was Doing Before 20:20 - Other Young Investors 21:52 - Why Wholesaling Is A “Weird” Model 23:49 - Losing Money On EMD 27:02 - Negotiation Tips 33:56 - How He Got His First Deal 34:40 - Filters He Suggests & Older Sellers 40:38 - Closing Thoughts & How To Get In Touch 42:57 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: Austin Pertl https://www.instagram.com/austinbuyshouses/   Website: Revite LLC https://www.revitellc.com/   Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Feb 27, 2026 • 30min

503: The Rental Strategy That Eliminates Vacancy

Vacancy can quietly drain rental returns, even in strong portfolios. In this episode, Alex Arguelles—who built and exited a 9,000-unit apartment portfolio—explains the “sell and stay” model he’s now scaling across the country. Instead of buying empty properties and searching for tenants, investors acquire homes with the seller already leasing it back—often with prepaid rent and a refinance path after 13 months using DCR loans. We break down how the structure works, how the numbers are engineered, and where this strategy fits inside a long-term rental portfolio.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:30 - Alex Arguelles’ Business 1:32 - What He Was Doing Before 3:38 - What Sell2Rent Does 7:45 - How Sellers Find Him 8:53 - The Concerns With The Market 10:37 - Refinancing In 13 Months 12:41 - How His Partner Knew About The Model 14:35 - Working With Wholesalers 16:39 - Lessons From Entrepreneurship & Mentors 20:30 - Providing Value As A Beginner 22:14 - Lessons From Sports & Hiring Tips 26:52 - Closing Thoughts & How To Get In Touch 29:22 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: Sell2Rent https://www.instagram.com/sell2rentusa/   Website: Sell2Rent https://www.sell2rent.com/   Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Feb 25, 2026 • 15min

502: 7 Proven Ways to Find More Off-Market Deals

Andrew Lucas breaks down the seven deal sources that consistently drive revenue in his business without increasing marketing spend. He explains how investors can build a wide network of referral partners, agents, professionals, and community connections that generate steady off-market opportunities — instead of relying only on paid leads. This episode unpacks how to create consistent deal flow by positioning yourself at the center of the right conversations.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:21 - The WIDEFAN Method 4:49 - Wholesalers 6:09 - Influencers 7:01 - Driving For Dollars & Everybody Else 8:25 - Facebook Groups 11:20 - Agents 13:31 - Networking 14:51 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: Andrew Lucas https://www.instagram.com/theandrewrlucas/   Website: Deal Finders Club https://dealfindersclub.com/   Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/
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Feb 23, 2026 • 27min

501: 80 Deals Per Year—The Mindset Shift

Cody Dover went from 4 deals in six months to 120 in a year — then intentionally scaled back to 80 while keeping the same gross revenue. In this episode, he breaks down the mindset shift that changed everything, how building a real sales pipeline paid off months later, why inbound marketing replaced outbound, how he works with a tight VIP buyer list, and what it actually takes to do fewer deals for more money. If you want to scale without burning out, this conversation lays out the strategy behind it.   KEY TALKING POINTS: 0:00 - Intro 0:22 - Cody Dover’s Business 1:22 - His First Deal 3:28 - Creative Financing & Wholesaling 5:39 - How They Found Their First Multi-Family 6:38 - Generating Leads 8:32 - Being Seller-Focused & Mindset 11:11 - Building Your Network 12:26 - Doing Less Deals For More $$$ 16:56 - Having Buyers Lined Up 20:00 - The Type Of Buyers They Work With 21:26 - Their Business Today & Partners 22:41 - Where To Find Cody & His Next Moves 24:33 - Big Lessons He’s Learned 25:45 - How DealMachine Can Help 27:10 - Outro   LINKS: Instagram: Cody Dover https://www.instagram.com/cody.dover/   Website: Little Rock Property Buyers https://propertybuyersar.com/   Instagram: David Lecko https://www.instagram.com/dlecko   Website: DealMachine https://www.dealmachine.com/pod   Instagram: Ryan Haywood https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments   Website: Heritage Home Investments https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

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