

The DealMachine Real Estate Investing Podcast
David Lecko, Ryan Haywood
Welcome to the DealMachine Podcast, where we help you get more out of your wholesaling business by showing you what’s working around the country.
We talk to real estate investors who are actively closing deals right now. You’ll hear how they generate leads, what their marketing costs look like, how they comp properties, and what their assignment fees actually are. Cold calling. Direct mail. SMS marketing. Dispositions. Hiring. Scaling.
We focus on what’s producing revenue in today’s market — and what isn’t.
If you’re already wholesaling, this will help you tighten your process, improve your margins, and make smarter decisions.
If you’re newer, this gives you visibility into what the business looks like once it’s working. You’ll understand the numbers, the systems, and the mistakes to avoid before you scale.
The goal is simple: more predictable deals and a stronger operation.
Subscribe and leave us a review!
Start a free trial of DealMachine: https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
We talk to real estate investors who are actively closing deals right now. You’ll hear how they generate leads, what their marketing costs look like, how they comp properties, and what their assignment fees actually are. Cold calling. Direct mail. SMS marketing. Dispositions. Hiring. Scaling.
We focus on what’s producing revenue in today’s market — and what isn’t.
If you’re already wholesaling, this will help you tighten your process, improve your margins, and make smarter decisions.
If you’re newer, this gives you visibility into what the business looks like once it’s working. You’ll understand the numbers, the systems, and the mistakes to avoid before you scale.
The goal is simple: more predictable deals and a stronger operation.
Subscribe and leave us a review!
Start a free trial of DealMachine: https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Episodes
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Mar 16, 2026 • 43min
510: The MASSIVE Real Estate Shift Happening Right Now
A major shift is happening in real estate right now, and most investors still haven’t caught on. In this episode, Thach Nguyen explains how accessory dwelling units (ADUs) are changing the way investors create value and generate cash flow from a single property. By adding additional units to existing homes, investors can turn one deal into multiple rental properties while forcing appreciation and building long-term wealth. Thach breaks down how this strategy works, where the opportunity is emerging across the country, and how investors can find properties with the lot size and layout needed to make it work. He also shares how market cycles, zoning changes, and housing shortages are creating the conditions for this strategy to take off.
Thach's ADU Training: https://learn.springboardtowealth.com/adu
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:14 - The Current State Of ADUs
2:50 - Why Thach Nguyen Is Passionate About It
4:34 - The Land Value & Arizona
7:28 - Why This Is Powerful & How Thach Does It
11:42 - How To Get Financing
13:51 - Keeping ADUs As Rentals
16:48 - How To Find An ADU Deal
19:20 - Focusing On B And C Neighborhoods
20:42 - How To Determine Price
26:19 - The Opportunity Of A Lifetime
30:42 - Prices In Ryan’s Market
32:51 - The Market Clock
40:02 - Thach’s ADU Class
40:50 - Should People Use Social Media?
41:55 - Closing Thoughts
42:58 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Thach Nguyen
https://www.instagram.com/ThachNguyen/
Website: Springboard To Wealth
https://learn.springboardtowealth.com/adu
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 13, 2026 • 32min
509: 4 Objections That Kill Real Estate Deals (It's Not Price)
Handling objections on the phone can make or break a deal. In this episode, sales expert Jen Way walks through the four objections real estate investors hear most often—like “I need to talk to my spouse,” “I need to think about it,” and price pushback—and explains how to get ahead of them before they ever come up. Jen shares how top salespeople stay proactive on calls, ask better questions, and guide conversations so sellers gain clarity on their real reason for selling, making it much easier to reach an agreement.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Objection 1
6:32 - Objection 2
8:49 - Objection 3
11:50 - Objection 4
13:15 - The Why & The RRR Tactic
17:06 - Jen’s Thoughts On Using Scripts
18:48 - How She Got Into Sales Training
21:15 - The Perfect Candidate For Her Training
22:43 - The Benefit Of Pulling Back
25:03 - Extra Tips From Jen
28:18 - AI Agents
30:38 - Closing Thoughts
31:19 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Jen Way
https://www.instagram.com/salesthejenway/
Facebook: Sales The Jen Way
https://www.facebook.com/groups/salesthejenway/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 11, 2026 • 15min
508: 2 Land Flips Per Month At $50K Each—Here's How
When Brent Bowers noticed land deals starting to slow down, he made a simple pivot: instead of just selling the land, he started placing brand-new manufactured homes on it. The result was a much larger buyer pool and profits around $50K per deal. In this episode, Brent breaks down how the strategy works, how he finds the right parcels, and the numbers he looks for before buying.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:36 - Why Brent Bowers Changed His Strategy
2:31 - Discovering The Strategy
4:39 - Which Markets Are Working
6:45 - Manufactured Homes With Drywall
7:53 - How He Does It
11:30 - An Example Of A Market
12:56 - How To Get Discounts
14:30 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Brent Bowers
https://www.instagram.com/brentlbowers/
Website: The Land Sharks
https://www.thelandsharks.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 9, 2026 • 11min
507: Why Isn’t Your Marketing Getting Deals Yet?
If you’ve been jumping between marketing strategies or feel like your current channel has stopped producing deals, this episode will help you reset your expectations. David breaks down what he calls the marketing clock — the cycle where strategies like direct mail, SMS, PPC, and other channels rise in popularity, become saturated, and eventually give way to new opportunities. He also explains why most investors quit too early and how much marketing spend it realistically takes before a deal starts to come through.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Marketing Mistakes
1:34 - The Marketing Clock
4:41 - Stick To One Method
6:17 - How Much Marketing Does It Take?
10:32 - Closing Thoughts
10:51 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 6, 2026 • 13min
506: Slow Flips—Finding Cheap Houses for Mailbox Money
Slow flips are becoming a popular long-term real estate strategy. Instead of flipping quickly, investors buy inexpensive houses and often seller finance them to create steady payments over time. In this episode, David shows DealMachine user George Dorr how to find cheap slow flip opportunities in Virginia using DealMachine’s filters, property data, and outreach tools.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:44 - The Slow Flip Method
2:45 - Setting Up Filters In DealMachine
5:25 - Skip Tracing
6:59 - The DealMachine Dialer
13:10 - Outro
LINKS:
Facebook: George Dorr
https://www.facebook.com/dorrhomes
Website: George Dorr
https://georgedorr.kw.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 4, 2026 • 15min
505: Proven Land Flipping Playbook In 15 Minutes
If you’ve been thinking about adding vacant land to your real estate business but aren’t sure where to start, this episode gives you a clear path forward. Joe McCall shares his proven system for flipping vacant land, including how to identify markets where land is actively selling, how to find buyers before you ever lock up a deal, how to target the right sellers, and the simple postcard strategy he uses to generate strong response rates. If you want a more predictable approach to land deals instead of guessing on markets, this episode walks you through the entire framework step by step.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:34 - Finding A Good Market
7:48 - Finding Land Buyers
9:44 - Finding Sellers
11:02 - His Postcard + Voicemail Strategy
13:59 - His Metrics With This System
14:53 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Joe McCall
https://www.instagram.com/jvmccall/
Links: Joe McCall
https://linktr.ee/joemccall
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Mar 2, 2026 • 43min
504: 4 Deals Per Month At Age 19—After Dropping Out
At 19 years old, Austin Pertl is closing four wholesale deals per month after dropping out of high school and going all-in on real estate. In this episode, he breaks down how he built consistent deal flow, why he prefers smaller markets over major metros, and how he competes against larger operators without driving everywhere. He shares the sales mindset that sets him apart, what he’d do differently if he started over, and the simple approach that helped him turn early struggles into steady contracts. If you’re trying to get your first deal or scale beyond one or two per month, this episode shows what consistent wholesaling actually looks like.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:32 - An Overview Of Austin Pertl’s Business
2:47 - Reducing Their Marketing Spend
6:01 - Locking Up Deals Virtually
10:59 - Setting Himself Apart From The Competition
15:38 - What He Was Doing Before
20:20 - Other Young Investors
21:52 - Why Wholesaling Is A “Weird” Model
23:49 - Losing Money On EMD
27:02 - Negotiation Tips
33:56 - How He Got His First Deal
34:40 - Filters He Suggests & Older Sellers
40:38 - Closing Thoughts & How To Get In Touch
42:57 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Austin Pertl
https://www.instagram.com/austinbuyshouses/
Website: Revite LLC
https://www.revitellc.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Feb 27, 2026 • 30min
503: The Rental Strategy That Eliminates Vacancy
Vacancy can quietly drain rental returns, even in strong portfolios. In this episode, Alex Arguelles—who built and exited a 9,000-unit apartment portfolio—explains the “sell and stay” model he’s now scaling across the country. Instead of buying empty properties and searching for tenants, investors acquire homes with the seller already leasing it back—often with prepaid rent and a refinance path after 13 months using DCR loans. We break down how the structure works, how the numbers are engineered, and where this strategy fits inside a long-term rental portfolio.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:30 - Alex Arguelles’ Business
1:32 - What He Was Doing Before
3:38 - What Sell2Rent Does
7:45 - How Sellers Find Him
8:53 - The Concerns With The Market
10:37 - Refinancing In 13 Months
12:41 - How His Partner Knew About The Model
14:35 - Working With Wholesalers
16:39 - Lessons From Entrepreneurship & Mentors
20:30 - Providing Value As A Beginner
22:14 - Lessons From Sports & Hiring Tips
26:52 - Closing Thoughts & How To Get In Touch
29:22 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Sell2Rent
https://www.instagram.com/sell2rentusa/
Website: Sell2Rent
https://www.sell2rent.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Feb 25, 2026 • 15min
502: 7 Proven Ways to Find More Off-Market Deals
Andrew Lucas breaks down the seven deal sources that consistently drive revenue in his business without increasing marketing spend. He explains how investors can build a wide network of referral partners, agents, professionals, and community connections that generate steady off-market opportunities — instead of relying only on paid leads. This episode unpacks how to create consistent deal flow by positioning yourself at the center of the right conversations.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:21 - The WIDEFAN Method
4:49 - Wholesalers
6:09 - Influencers
7:01 - Driving For Dollars & Everybody Else
8:25 - Facebook Groups
11:20 - Agents
13:31 - Networking
14:51 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Andrew Lucas
https://www.instagram.com/theandrewrlucas/
Website: Deal Finders Club
https://dealfindersclub.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/

Feb 23, 2026 • 27min
501: 80 Deals Per Year—The Mindset Shift
Cody Dover went from 4 deals in six months to 120 in a year — then intentionally scaled back to 80 while keeping the same gross revenue. In this episode, he breaks down the mindset shift that changed everything, how building a real sales pipeline paid off months later, why inbound marketing replaced outbound, how he works with a tight VIP buyer list, and what it actually takes to do fewer deals for more money. If you want to scale without burning out, this conversation lays out the strategy behind it.
KEY TALKING POINTS:
0:00 - Intro
0:22 - Cody Dover’s Business
1:22 - His First Deal
3:28 - Creative Financing & Wholesaling
5:39 - How They Found Their First Multi-Family
6:38 - Generating Leads
8:32 - Being Seller-Focused & Mindset
11:11 - Building Your Network
12:26 - Doing Less Deals For More $$$
16:56 - Having Buyers Lined Up
20:00 - The Type Of Buyers They Work With
21:26 - Their Business Today & Partners
22:41 - Where To Find Cody & His Next Moves
24:33 - Big Lessons He’s Learned
25:45 - How DealMachine Can Help
27:10 - Outro
LINKS:
Instagram: Cody Dover
https://www.instagram.com/cody.dover/
Website: Little Rock Property Buyers
https://propertybuyersar.com/
Instagram: David Lecko
https://www.instagram.com/dlecko
Website: DealMachine
https://www.dealmachine.com/pod
Instagram: Ryan Haywood
https://www.instagram.com/heritage_home_investments
Website: Heritage Home Investments
https://www.heritagehomeinvestments.com/


