

DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas "deprogram" the latest domestic and international news and trends so you can see through the spin in the headlines to the raw truth you need to know.Ted's immersion in the media—prize-winning cartoonist and columnist, radio host, editor at multiple outlets, and the veteran of bruising First Amendment legal battles—informs analysis that cuts through the spin.Jamarl's experiences as a podcaster who has broadcast from around the globe grounds his international, humanist perspective as he helps you break down what's happening, what it means, and what's coming next."DeProgram" offers fast-paced, entertaining analysis you can't get anywhere else.Live & Streaming on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@DeProgramShowLive & Streaming on Rumble:https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShow
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Feb 4, 2026 • 59min
Epstein Exposed (with Murtaza Hussain) | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Murtaza Hussain, national security and foreign affairs correspondent at DropSite News who investigates the Epstein files and intelligence links. He unpacks the massive document dump, Gulf elite connections including Kaaba cloth and Emirati ties, money laundering and intelligence links, and why elites tolerated Epstein. Short, probing conversations about messy disclosures and geopolitical implications.

Feb 3, 2026 • 59min
Clintons Cave | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
They dig into the Clintons being hauled before a congressional probe and the fallout around Epstein. A comparison of FBI tactics and Don Lemon’s reported arrest sparks a conversation on raids and authority. Discussions jump to China’s expanding influence in Latin America, Uruguay’s new partnerships, and regional political shifts. Short historical and intelligence anecdotes pop up throughout.

Feb 2, 2026 • 59min
Senate for Sale | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
They dig into a Democratic fundraising surge and the debate over ICE secrecy and doxxing. They examine released Epstein documents and their fallout for elites. They unpack regional tensions over Iran’s missiles and Turkey-hosted talks. They critique Google’s AI tie to Israeli surveillance and discuss Gaza’s Rafah crossing, humanitarian bans, and the unfolding catastrophe.

Jan 30, 2026 • 57min
Is Trump Bidening Out? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
They debate reports of a president falling asleep in meetings and what that says about political cover-ups. They discuss cuts at a major newspaper and how reporting priorities are shifting. They cover a short-term immigration funding deal tied to limits on enforcement tactics. They also examine regional tensions with Iran and the risks of military escalation.

Jan 29, 2026 • 59min
Target: Tehran | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
They debate rising US threats toward Iran and whether military strikes or diplomacy will follow. They examine domestic fights over Homeland Security funding and proposed ICE reforms. They cover an unprecedented FBI seizure of Georgia voter records and a Dutch court ruling on climate duty to protect island residents. The conversation also touches on China policy and risks of geoengineering.

Jan 28, 2026 • 1h 1min
Dead As a Dog? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • Is Kristi Noem’s career as doomed as the puppy she shot? 3/4 of House Democrats would impeach her after CBP concluded Alex Pretti never “brandished” a gun, despite Noem’s claims. Democrats who voted to confirm her are joining right-wing Democrats like John Fetterman and some Republicans to call for her to step down in the aftermath of her repeated lies defending ICE killers in Minneapolis. Tim Kaine worries aloud that Stephen Miller would replace her. • Ilhan Omar attacked by a man who sprayed her with an unknown liquid. And state legislators are proposing legislation to rein in ICE. • Brunch Democrats schedule “No Kings 3” marches for March 28 because, when fascism is on the march, what’s the rush? • Trump’s insults and military threats to Europe prompt his right-wing European ideological travelers to distance themselves from him for fear of vassalization.JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuLISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

Jan 27, 2026 • 58min
Where Will ICE Killers Go Next? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • Where will ICE kill its next American citizen? Greg Bovino replaced by Tom Homan in Minneapolis, Trump to pull “some” ICE stormtroopers out of Minnesota, gun rights groups seething over DHS rhetoric as Trump distances himself from his own staff. ICE isn’t done—where will they go next? Some are at the Winter Olympics. • 1968 Redux: There’s no telling what an anxious United States will do next as a sense of disorder and chaos spreads across party lines. • After the Nursing Home Lobby gave $5M to MAGA, Inc., Trump canceled a rule that would have required more staff.JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuLISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

Jan 26, 2026 • 60min
Who Will ICE Kill Next? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • Minneapolis Crisis: Americans are turning against Trump and his ICE surge against Minneapolis, where agents executed an unarmed nurse, U.S. citizen Alex Pretti—with no signs of a real investigation in sight over the president’s personal Kent State. Democrats are threatening to close the government later this week over Homeland Security funding. Republican politicians are starting to read the room but most continue to defend ICE. ICE offers to leave Minneapolis in exchange for voter records—what’s that about? • Military top brass purged in China. • Rafah border crossing reopened: Will Israel make it a one-way trip?JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuLISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

Jan 23, 2026 • 60min
Club Med Gaza | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • Jared Kushner presented a glittering vision of postwar Gaza centered around the construction of entirely new cities where rubble and Palestinian bodies currently lay rotting. Who will be in charge? Who will profit? • Minneapolis braces for today’s city-wide strike against ICE, which will close hundreds of businesses. • Trump looks Left on economic populism. • Kristi Noem’s Homeland Security tweeted a racist altered photo of a women arrested for opposing an ICE preacher.JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuLISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

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Jan 22, 2026 • 57min
ICE Cold Liars | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
They dig into ICE abuses, including a detainee's death, warrantless home entries and alleged recruitment and violence inside the agency. They debate bipartisan moves over Clinton testimony and Epstein. Geopolitics come up with a Greenland framework and U.S. control claims. Courtroom limits on presidential firing of Fed board members and how Americans view Trump also get sharp attention.


