

DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas "deprogram" the latest domestic and international news and trends so you can see through the spin in the headlines to the raw truth you need to know.Ted's immersion in the media—prize-winning cartoonist and columnist, radio host, editor at multiple outlets, and the veteran of bruising First Amendment legal battles—informs analysis that cuts through the spin.Jamarl's experiences as a podcaster who has broadcast from around the globe grounds his international, humanist perspective as he helps you break down what's happening, what it means, and what's coming next."DeProgram" offers fast-paced, entertaining analysis you can't get anywhere else.Live & Streaming on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@DeProgramShowLive & Streaming on Rumble:https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShow
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Jan 22, 2026 • 57min
ICE Cold Liars | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
They dig into ICE abuses, including a detainee's death, warrantless home entries and alleged recruitment and violence inside the agency. They debate bipartisan moves over Clinton testimony and Epstein. Geopolitics come up with a Greenland framework and U.S. control claims. Courtroom limits on presidential firing of Fed board members and how Americans view Trump also get sharp attention.

Jan 21, 2026 • 57min
Coup! | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou dive into a secret agreement from the Trump Administration concerning confidential data to sway election results. They explore the Greenland crisis, touching on its trade implications and the unusual discussions of potential U.S. invasion. Meanwhile, calls for a new global order challenge the reliability of the U.S. on the international stage. With sharp insights on crypto and past CIA pandemic planning, they navigate the absurdities and ethical dilemmas of modern geopolitics.

Jan 20, 2026 • 59min
Peace of Work | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • Trump tells Norway that being snubbed for the Nobel Peace Prize makes him think less about peace and more about what’s good for the US—so he’ll continue to press to somehow acquire Greenland. Trump shared a private text from Macron wondering WTF. America’s top Catholic archbishops denounce Trump’s aggressive foreign policy against Venezuela and Greenland. • China, Russia and Turkey invited to join Trump’s Gaza “Board of Peace.” • BLM protest against ICE pastor in Minneapolis investigated by AG Pam Bondi. A Hmong man was dragged out of his home naked into the bitter cold by ICE—he’s a US citizen.JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuLISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

Jan 19, 2026 • 59min
Invasion USA | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • The US Army orders 1,500 troops stationed in Alaska to prepare for possible deployment to Minnesota in preparation for a possible Trump declaration of the Insurrection Act. Noem denies ICE using chemical agents against peaceful Minnesotans, then backtracks. And the FBI is asking agents to go to Minneapolis for “temporary duty.” Medical examiner to rule killing of detainee by ICE officers in El Paso as homicide. And: FBI killed investigation into shooting of Renee Good. • The Greenland Crisis has broken out into full-out trade war between the US and the EU. $108 billion in tariffs against US products go into effect February 1. • Kamala Harris’ team asked Josh Shapiro if he had ever been an Israeli agent. • There’s not actually anything inside Trump’s one-page “Great Healthcare Plan.” Does it matter? • Portuguese elections: Socialist Party’s Antonio Jose Seguro and far-right Andre Ventura head to a run-off.JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuLISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

Jan 16, 2026 • 58min
No ICE, Please | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Scott Stantis of The Chicago Tribune fills in for John today.Today we discuss: • As Trump mulls invoking the Insurrection Act against Minnesota, the first poll after ICE gunned down Renee Good—with four shots—shows most Americans disapprove of the agency and its violent tactics. Also: ICE shoots another man and gasses a family of six trying to escape the chaos in Minneapolis, where ICE is targeting daycare centers. • France, Germany, Sweden and Norway rush troops to Greenland as a shown of force against the United States. Even lickspittle Republicans are pushing back against an invasion. • María Corina Machado, Venezuela’s extreme-right politician and neoliberal darling, gave her Nobel Peace Prize to The Donald. • Even as Israel continues to kill Palestinians in Gaza, Israel and the US announce phase two of their ceasefire: the Board of Peace.JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuLISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

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Jan 15, 2026 • 57min
Make America Crazy Again | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
A swift political reversal: Trump backtracks on cuts to mental health programs after bipartisan outcry. The hosts react to surprising poll results revealing most Americans oppose U.S. control of Greenland. They also dissect a Senate flip-flop on war powers regarding Venezuela, raising concerns over congressional integrity. Elon Musk's Grok AI now restricts user interactions, sparking debate about online freedoms. Plus, a historical look at complex U.S.-Iran relations and a critique of Florida's controversial anti-Israel criticism law.

Jan 14, 2026 • 57min
What Happens on Epstein Island Stays on Epstein Island | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • Bill and Hillary Clinton tell the House Oversight Committee say they’ve “had enough” of the Epstein investigation and won’t testify despite a subpoena. James Comer says he’ll hold the former First Couple in contempt of Congress. • Iran says it may attack US military bases if the US attacks it again. Protesters claim 2,400 of their own have been killed in Iran. • Ogala Sioux and Lakota Nation officials say tribal members are being targeted in Minnesota and held hostage by ICE to coerce them into allowing ICE operations on tribal land. HHS outnumbers cops in Minneapolis. And: federal prosecutors are resigning over the DOJ’s instructions to go after Renee Good’s widow. • Japan and South Korea cozy up to confront China.JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuLISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

Jan 13, 2026 • 58min
The Fix Is In | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • The presumption that the FBI can be trusted to investigate the killing of activist Renee Good by ICE agent Jon Ross fairly has been all but destroyed by White House statements, freezing out local authorities, and the DOJ’s refusal to allow its civil rights experts to weigh in. Does it matter if the government abandons all pretense of objectivity? • As if life didn’t suck enough for Gazans who have survived the genocide, severe storms are ripping away the tents of hundreds of thousands of refugees. • Western analysts are eagerly hoping for revolution in Iran. • Malaysia and Indonesia block Grok over deep-fake porn. Even Renee Good has been virtually undressed.JOIN US LIVE ON RUMBLE!https://rumble.com/c/DeProgramShowFOLLOW TED:https://rall.com/https://x.com/tedrallFOLLOW JOHN:https://www.instagram.com/realjohnkiriakouhttps://x.com/JohnKiriakouLISTEN ON SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/2kdFlw2w8sSPhKI8NRx8ZuLISTEN ON APPLE MUSIC:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/deprogram-with-john-kiriakou-and-ted-rall

Jan 12, 2026 • 59min
We Love (Iranian) Protesters | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Political tensions heat up as Iran threatens retaliation against U.S. intervention in ongoing protests, raising questions about U.S. foreign policy. The hosts critique Trump's labeling of anti-ICE protesters as domestic terrorists. They delve into historical oddities surrounding Greenland diplomacy and examine the implications of external support for Iranian protesters. A sharp discussion on domestic policing tactics highlights concerns about militarization. The hosts wrap up with reflections on torture perpetrated by the UK, drawing connections to contemporary issues.

Jan 9, 2026 • 50min
On Thin ICE | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
A tragic ICE shooting in Minneapolis sparks debates over excessive force and law enforcement training. Protests erupt as questions about federal tactics arise. Meanwhile, oil executives push for taxpayer guarantees on Venezuelan investments, raising crony capitalism concerns. Gavin Newsom's presidential ambitions come under fire, while Trump’s claims of being guided by morality are scrutinized. The hosts tackle the troubling link between militarized policing and cultural issues, emphasizing the need for de-escalation and state authority.


