
DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas Epstein Exposed (with Murtaza Hussain) | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Feb 4, 2026
Murtaza Hussain, national security and foreign affairs correspondent at DropSite News who investigates the Epstein files and intelligence links. He unpacks the massive document dump, Gulf elite connections including Kaaba cloth and Emirati ties, money laundering and intelligence links, and why elites tolerated Epstein. Short, probing conversations about messy disclosures and geopolitical implications.
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Epstein Dump Demands Slow, Careful Reading
- The Epstein dump is massive and will take prolonged, careful analysis to yield reliable conclusions.
- Murtaza warns against quick dismissal or definitive claims from limited email fragments.
Long-Term Strategic Ties With Gulf Elites
- Epstein cultivated sustained, transactional relationships with Gulf elites that went beyond one-off contacts.
- These ties included business deals, introductions, and influence-building for UAE interests in the U.S.
Epstein As A Bridge For Gulf Influence
- Gulf actors saw Epstein as a bridge into U.S. elites after earlier setbacks like the failed DP World port purchase.
- They used him to repair reputation, buy influence, and position business and political ties.

