DeProgram with John Kiriakou and Ted Rall Clintons Cave | DeProgram with Ted Rall and John Kiriakou
Feb 3, 2026
They dig into the Clintons being hauled before a congressional probe and the fallout around Epstein. A comparison of FBI tactics and Don Lemon’s reported arrest sparks a conversation on raids and authority. Discussions jump to China’s expanding influence in Latin America, Uruguay’s new partnerships, and regional political shifts. Short historical and intelligence anecdotes pop up throughout.
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Clintons Cave To Avoid Contempt
- The Clintons agreed to testify to avoid contempt of Congress and possible jail time.
- John Kiriakou and Ted Rall predict they will largely invoke the Fifth and reveal little of substance.
Personal Raid Experience With No Recourse
- John Kiriakou described a 2019 raid where 22 FBI agents smashed holes in his walls and never charged him.
- He explained there is no practical way to be compensated for such actions.
How CIA Operation Names Work
- CIA operation code names use digraphs plus a computer-generated name.
- John Kiriakou compared the system to a Dewey Decimal for operations.
