

DRIVE TIME DEBRIEF: A Physician Wellness Podcast with The Whole Physician
Drs. Cazier, Dinsmore and Morrison
🔥 Doctors Feeling the Burnout? We’ve Been There—and We’re Here to Help You Climb Out of the Fire. 🔥
Drive Time Debrief: A Physician Wellness Podcast
Welcome to Drive Time Debrief, the anti-burnout podcast built just for physicians and healthcare providers who are ready to reclaim their joy, purpose, and well-being.
Hosted by the physician-coaches of The Whole Physician, this podcast delivers honest conversations, evidence-based tools, and practical strategies to help you navigate burnout, set boundaries, and find fulfillment in and outside of medicine.
Whether you're heading into a shift, decompressing on your commute home, or sneaking in a sanity-saving moment during your day, you’ll get bite-sized insights that speak to the *real* challenges of medical life—with compassion, candor, and a dose of humor.
If you’re tired of white-knuckling your way through your career and ready to feel like yourself again, you’re in the right place.
Episodes include:
- Physician burnout recovery stories
- Coaching tools for stress, imposter syndrome, & difficult dynamics
- Self-compassion, mindset shifts, and boundary-setting
- Conversations on career pivots, family life, and rediscovering joy
Hit subscribe and join us for a weekly debrief—because your well-being deserves to be non-negotiable.
You wouldn’t head into battle without armor, so why are we sent into the chaotic Dumpster Fire of Medicine without the tools we need to protect ourselves?
Medicine was supposed to be your calling. Instead, it feels like it’s breaking you—turning altruistic, purpose-driven, bright minds into frustrated, disillusioned, and exhausted shadows of who we used to be.
How do we know? We’ve been there. We’ve lived the long shifts, the impossible expectations, and the emotional toll. And we’ve watched too many of our peers struggle silently.
We’re The Whole Physician—three Board-Certified Emergency Physicians (and physician burnout experts) on a mission to rewrite the story of medicine. Our podcast isn’t just another pep talk. It’s a lifeline—and a quick remedy for burnout you can take with you wherever you go.
Whether you’re driving to your next shift, heading home after a long day, or taking a rare moment to breathe, our episodes are packed with practical tools and mindset shifts that actually work:
- Find hope for the future and a renewed sense of purpose
- Rediscover joy in your work and life
- Repair and strengthen relationships (even the one with yourself)
- Quiet the mental chaos and ease emotional exhaustion
- Realize you are NOT alone.
This is your space. A space where doctors like you—who keep showing up no matter what—get the care, support, and tools you deserve. You are our people. It’s about time someone put YOU first.
🎧 Ready to reclaim your hope and joy? Listen now.
Learn more at www.thewholephysician.com.
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Drive Time Debrief: A Physician Wellness Podcast
Welcome to Drive Time Debrief, the anti-burnout podcast built just for physicians and healthcare providers who are ready to reclaim their joy, purpose, and well-being.
Hosted by the physician-coaches of The Whole Physician, this podcast delivers honest conversations, evidence-based tools, and practical strategies to help you navigate burnout, set boundaries, and find fulfillment in and outside of medicine.
Whether you're heading into a shift, decompressing on your commute home, or sneaking in a sanity-saving moment during your day, you’ll get bite-sized insights that speak to the *real* challenges of medical life—with compassion, candor, and a dose of humor.
If you’re tired of white-knuckling your way through your career and ready to feel like yourself again, you’re in the right place.
Episodes include:
- Physician burnout recovery stories
- Coaching tools for stress, imposter syndrome, & difficult dynamics
- Self-compassion, mindset shifts, and boundary-setting
- Conversations on career pivots, family life, and rediscovering joy
Hit subscribe and join us for a weekly debrief—because your well-being deserves to be non-negotiable.
You wouldn’t head into battle without armor, so why are we sent into the chaotic Dumpster Fire of Medicine without the tools we need to protect ourselves?
Medicine was supposed to be your calling. Instead, it feels like it’s breaking you—turning altruistic, purpose-driven, bright minds into frustrated, disillusioned, and exhausted shadows of who we used to be.
How do we know? We’ve been there. We’ve lived the long shifts, the impossible expectations, and the emotional toll. And we’ve watched too many of our peers struggle silently.
We’re The Whole Physician—three Board-Certified Emergency Physicians (and physician burnout experts) on a mission to rewrite the story of medicine. Our podcast isn’t just another pep talk. It’s a lifeline—and a quick remedy for burnout you can take with you wherever you go.
Whether you’re driving to your next shift, heading home after a long day, or taking a rare moment to breathe, our episodes are packed with practical tools and mindset shifts that actually work:
- Find hope for the future and a renewed sense of purpose
- Rediscover joy in your work and life
- Repair and strengthen relationships (even the one with yourself)
- Quiet the mental chaos and ease emotional exhaustion
- Realize you are NOT alone.
This is your space. A space where doctors like you—who keep showing up no matter what—get the care, support, and tools you deserve. You are our people. It’s about time someone put YOU first.
🎧 Ready to reclaim your hope and joy? Listen now.
Learn more at www.thewholephysician.com.
Sound credit:
_________________________________
Fresh by MBB https://soundcloud.com/mbbofficial
Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0
Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2PK8m0A
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/YqRO_qgBB1c
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Episodes
Mentioned books

Jun 30, 2022 • 16min
#16: Perfectionism
In this episode, we unpack Perfectionism! The good, the bad and the ugly!! We use real life examples to explain how maladaptive perfectionistic tendencies can be and the directions we can take towards a more healthy, high achieving model for our behavior. Enjoy this candid but real look into why physicians develop the former and have to LEARN the latter!!
Perfectionism:
rejects failure
rejects negative emotion
expects endless positive emotions
sets unrealistic goals and then brushes them off when achieved
expects reality to be perfect, when reality is actually messy
High Achiever:
accepts failure as unavoidable and an opportunity for growth
accepts, feels, allows negative emotions
sets challenging goals based on reality and celebrates achievements
accepts reality as it is and optimizes every opportunity to improve
Publications discussed:
Tal Ben-Shahar (2009). “The Pursuit of Perfect: How to Stop Chasing Perfection and Start Living a Richer, Happier Life”, McGraw Hill Professional.
Also check out our article on perfectionism in Emergency Medicine News:
https://journals.lww.com/em-news/fulltext/2022/05000/wellness_911_the_price_of_perfection.22.aspx
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

Jun 23, 2022 • 18min
#15: Unconditional Love
This podcast explores the concept of unconditional love, emphasizing its benefits and challenges in relationships. It highlights the power of choosing positive feelings and letting go of judgment. The importance of setting boundaries and practicing self-acceptance is discussed, along with how experiencing unconditional love can transform relationships and bring about positive change in life.

Jun 16, 2022 • 20min
#14: Self Integrity
In this episode, we introduce the idea of self-integrity. Which is identifying the values that we have and keeping the internal and external self in alignment with those values. The most important relationship we have is the one we have with ourselves. The way we honor and build this relationship is by showing up for ourselves consistently. This can be in the goals we set, the plans we make or in the way we talk to ourselves. This concept of integrity is essential to creating a steady foundation for which we build the best version of ourselves and that "self" can show up everywhere we are and in everything we do.
Take home points:
You have all the components on the inside you need to run efficiently and effectively and they match everything the way you perform on the outside.
When we're not living in alignment and not doing what we say, then we lose credibility. Most importantly, with ourselves. We stop believing anything that we say that we're going to do.
The first thing you need to do is to define your values.
The second thing we need to do is be mindful of our thoughts, and we know that our thoughts really are the source of everything that happens in our lives.
The goals that you set for yourself, do it out of love for yourself. Not as a comparison to somebody else or somebody else's expectations for you.
It's important to set yourself up for small wins. Set realistic and obtainable goals.
Use your prefrontal cortex, the planning part of your brain!
Quoted articles, books and websites:
"The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self" book by Martha Beck
https://crossfitmilescity.com/5-strategies-for-rebuilding-self-integrity
"Losing 100 pounds with Corinne Crabtree"
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime
Jun 9, 2022 • 18min
#13: Relationship with Yourself with Richa Thapa, MD
TRIGGER WARNING: In the episode we briefly discuss abusive relationships. This is NOT meant to victim-shame. This does not apply to children. This is more a discussion of adults, with resources, who willingly choose to stay in relationships with no resemblance to anything they’d wish for another person they love.
If you are currently in an abusive relationship, please work directly with a local mental health professional specializing in abuse, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline (1-800-799-7233), or text SMART to 88788.
As always, this podcast does not establish a doctor-patient relationship. It is for general educational purposes only.
In this episode, we again speak again with our favorite psychiatrist, Dr. Richa Thapa, about our most important relationship: the relationship we have with ourselves. It is the foundation for all of our other relationships.
You’ll hear:
How your relationship with yourself determines how you treat yourself, how you allow others to treat you, what you tolerate, what you keep going back to…and many times this is unconscious
Options for uncomfortable interactions with consultants, etc.
Setting and enforcing boundaries
How Dr. Thapa’s relationship with herself changed after a devastating diagnosis
Encouragement for others who have recently received bad news
Quotables:
“You want to fix your marriage. You want to fix your relationship with your children. You think it’s the relationship that you have to work on, but it’s what’s inside.”
“Where’s your parental, mama bear/papa bear instinct FOR YOURSELF?”
“I am still that young child that doesn’t need to be talked to like that. From even myself, ESPECIALLY from myself. I can’t escape my own voice. That’s the one I can’t escape.”
“I think the key with boundaries is following through.”
“Something shifted inside of me at some point. It was like, I gotta be my own friend.”
“Treat yourself like a friend.”
“We can do hard things, and this can be the catalyst you need for creating the life you want. Because you take action when you realize that life is short. At least that was my experience.”
“In every situation, we either win or we learn.”
Recommended resources:
To reach out to Dr. Thapa: richawellness.squarespace.net
For help with domestic violence, contact a mental health professional or call the National Domestic Violence Hotline (1-800-799-7233), or text SMART to 88788.
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime
Jun 2, 2022 • 16min
#12: A Psychiatrist's View On Coaching with Richa Thapa, MD
In this episode, we introduce you to our friend, Dr. Richa Thapa. She is a clinical psychiatrist who is a burnout survivor and newly certified Life Coach. Her inspirational story of beating the odds of breast cancer, surviving burnout, and discovering a passion for wellness coaching, especially topics about self-confidence and self-love. Enjoy this insightful and thoughtful episode with Dr Thapa and her journey.
*Here are some of our favorite moments:
Dr Thapa:
"I kind of had to just take a step back and reevaluate. I was really burnt out. I felt like I couldn't take care of anyone else's mental health before I could take care of my own."
"my biggest thing going through my cancer journey was, “I don't want to get depressed.” As a psychiatrist, I know what depression can do. I know what anxiety can do. And I know it would just have made everything worse."
"it was like the beginning of a freedom that I didn't know existed."
"this is like cognitive behavior therapy light. It's like a simpler version. But to me, what I liked about it is it was so accessible."
"our wellbeing and there's multiple facets to it, but my love is self-confidence coaching, self-love coaching. I feel like if you can be your own friend and learn to just love yourself in your toughest times you can get through anything."
Websites cited:
richawellness.squarespace.com
drlornabreen.org
Studies mentioned:
Mayo (2019)
Emotional exhaustion (p<0.001)
Burnout (p<0.001)
Resilience (p=0.04)
Quality of Life (p=0.005)
McLean (2020)
Burnout (p = 0.003)
Work Engagement (p = 0.023)
Psychological Capital (p = 0.002)
Job Satisfaction (p = 0.021)
Stanford (2022)
Burnout (p<.0001)
Self-valuation (p<.0001)
Sleep-related impairment (p<.0001)
U of Colorado (2022) - Group Coaching
Emotional exhaustion (p=.01)
Imposter syndrome (p=.003)
Self-compassion (p<.001)
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

May 26, 2022 • 27min
#11: Arrival Fallacy
This episode we discuss Arrival Fallacy - the illusion that once we “make it,” once we attain our goal or reach our destination, we will achieve lasting happiness. The term was coined by Tal Ben-Shahar, Ph.D. in his book, Happier.
We discuss:
What Arrival Fallacy is, and it’s distant relative, Summit Syndrome
The Happiness Quadrants (and where you want to spend most of your time)
Rat race
Hedonism
Nihilism
Happiness Quadrant
Tips to enjoy the journey, including
Stop saying “I’ll be happy when [x]...”
Start lighting it up
Focus on what’s going right
Celebrate along the way
Concentrate on your relationships
Quotables
“You often feel tired, not because you’ve done too much, but because you’ve done too little of what sparks a light in you.” -Alexander den Heijer
Start lighting it up!
Today, if you don’t know what your hobbies are, start dreaming.
As long as you know you’re going in the right direction, you’re going to get there.
If we can be mindful of those pleasant moments and really savor them, they can help carry us along as we endure unpleasantries.
We can learn how to absorb positive experiences.
What we really need is to be able to soak in stuff that’s more positive.
There’s so much going right all the time.
So we celebrate along the way. We can mourn along the way as well. All those things together will help us to find happiness in our journey.
The number one predictor of happiness is the quality tie we spend with people we care about and who care about us. (From Tal Ben-Shahar)
Happiness is the journey, not the destination. (Attributed to a lot of people including Ralph Waldo Emerson, Buddha, & Mahatma Gandhi)
References:
Happiness Quadrants
Alexander den Heijer
Ben-Shahar, Tal. Happier. New York, McGraw-Hill, 2007
Rick Hanson, Ph.D.
Wellness 911- You've Arrived: Why Aren't You Happier? (Dinsmore, Amanda MD; Cazier, Laura MD; Morrison, Kendra DO. Emergency Medicine News: April 2022 - Volume 44 - Issue 4 - p 30. doi: 10.1097/01.EEM.0000827728.91293.5a)
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

May 19, 2022 • 25min
#10: Self Talk
This episode looks at the relationship you have with yourself, specifically your self-talk. What kind of self talk do you use daily? Would you speak that way to a friend or a child? If not, it isn't something you need to say to yourself either.
Some highlights:
"The talk that I found myself saying to myself was more dismissive. And that is what I thought humility was, but that is nowhere in the definition of humility."
"Sometimes we're just flat out mean to ourselves and pick ourselves apart. Like, we would never talk to anyone else the way we might talk to ourselves."
"But we can approach ourselves like we would any other friend and we really do need to be our own best friend because when it comes down to it, that's the only thing we're guaranteed. We're guaranteed to have ourselves."
"...expecting somebody else to do that for us is expecting a human being to know what we need. We know best the messages that we need to hear for ourselves."
"The first step is to recognize them. The first step is to get outside of our brain and look down and observe our thoughts."
Mentioned in the podcast:
Janet Jordan Sculpture
“The High Five Habit: Take Control of Your Life with One Simple Habit” by Mel Robbins
“What Shamu Taught Me About a Happy Marriage” by Amy Sutherland; published in the New York Times on Oct. 11th, 2019
Rachel Hart Coaching (over-drinking coach)
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

May 12, 2022 • 19min
#9: Thought Errors 5/5
In this episode, we continue with the 4th of the 5 part series on the 15 most common thought errors. In episodes #3-4 we went over how to try to identify the thought that is causing your negative (or positive) feelings. After you’ve processed the feeling, it’s important to look at if the causative thought is even true, useful in any way, or if there are any other alternatives to consider. This series starts to examine the thoughts- to consider if it falls within any of the 15 most common thought errors.
Distortions 13-15/15:
Fallacy of change - when we think others need to change in order for us to be happy. In reality, we are responsible for our own happiness. We can’t control other adults, so needing them to be other than who they are is an exercise in frustration.
Fallacy of fairness - getting stuck because something isn’t fair or equal. The truth is living on earth has rarely or ever been fair
Heaven’s reward fallacy - expecting rewards based on merit. Since in reality things are rarely fair, we need to live in accordance with our own integrity rather than expecting acknowledgement, promotion, etc for good deeds or hard work.
QUOTABLES:
“The best gift I can give myself is loving myself unconditionally in the same way that we were needing that validation from a supposed or partner…”
“One of the most important things that we could do for ourselves…was to start loving ourselves as we are.”
“When you fight reality, you lose every time.”
“We decide who we are, and that’s how we show up, whether we get reward or appreciation or not.”
“If you’re motivated to do the things that you do expecting some sort of return on it, then that’s an exchange.”
“As we do that and create our own reward, we’re less reliant on- we are less likely to transfer our power to somebody else, expecting them to make us feel good.”
"It is all about becoming the person that you know you can be."
"You are enough, and your worth is not in what you do or what you say or what you accomplish."
MOTHER TERESA QUOTE
RECOMMENDED RESOURCES
Article mentioned:
https://www.mindmypeelings.com/blog/cognitive-distortions?rq=cognitive%20distortions
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

May 5, 2022 • 17min
#8: Thought Errors 4/5
In this episode, we continue with the 4th of the 5 part series on the 15 most common thought errors. In episodes #3-4 we went over how to try to identify the thought that is causing your negative (or positive) feelings. After you’ve processed the feeling, it’s important to look at if the causative thought is even true, useful in any way, or if there are any other alternatives to consider. This series starts to examine the thought to consider if it falls within any of the 15 most common thought errors.
Distortions 10-12/15:
"should statements" - statements like "I should be exercising more" create expectations that are not likely to be met. The pressure created from the “should statements” makes it difficult to meet those expectations, when the failure occurs there is guilt and frustration, which makes you less likely to make another attempt.
emotional reasoning - any feeling must be true in their mind. The emotion is accepted as fact because all logical reasoning is blocked out and it incorrectly assumes the negative feeling is the only truth.
control fallacies - (2 subtypes)
external control fallacy is the belief that a person's life is completely controlled by external factors and fate has already been decided. This distortion creates the feeling that we have no control over our situation.
internal control fallacy is the belief that a person has complete control, not only of themselves, but also their surroundings. So, you can assume that you are responsible for not only the pain of yourself and others, but also their happiness.
RECOMMENDED RESOURCESArticle mentioned:
https://www.mindmypeelings.com/blog/cognitive-distortions?rq=cognitive%20distortions
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

Apr 28, 2022 • 14min
#7: Thought Errors 3/5
In this episode, we continue with the 3rd of the 5 part series on the 15 most common thought errors. In episodes #3-4 we went over how to try to identify the thought that is causing your negative (or positive) feelings. After you’ve processed the feeling, it’s important to look at if the causative thought is even true, useful in any way, or if there are any other alternatives to consider. This series starts to examine the thought to consider if it falls within any of the 15 most common thought errors.
Distortions 7-9/15:
Blaming - holding others responsible for our pain, playing the victim role
Labeling - assign judgment to ourselves or others based on one negative incident
Always being right - believe our opinions are facts, NEED to be right, efforts to prove ourselves right persist well beyond when most would “agree to disagree.”
RECOMMENDED RESOURCESArticle mentioned:
https://www.mindmypeelings.com/blog/cognitive-distortions?rq=cognitive%20distortions
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime


