

DRIVE TIME DEBRIEF: A Physician Wellness Podcast with The Whole Physician
Drs. Cazier, Dinsmore and Morrison
🔥 Doctors Feeling the Burnout? We’ve Been There—and We’re Here to Help You Climb Out of the Fire. 🔥
Drive Time Debrief: A Physician Wellness Podcast
Welcome to Drive Time Debrief, the anti-burnout podcast built just for physicians and healthcare providers who are ready to reclaim their joy, purpose, and well-being.
Hosted by the physician-coaches of The Whole Physician, this podcast delivers honest conversations, evidence-based tools, and practical strategies to help you navigate burnout, set boundaries, and find fulfillment in and outside of medicine.
Whether you're heading into a shift, decompressing on your commute home, or sneaking in a sanity-saving moment during your day, you’ll get bite-sized insights that speak to the *real* challenges of medical life—with compassion, candor, and a dose of humor.
If you’re tired of white-knuckling your way through your career and ready to feel like yourself again, you’re in the right place.
Episodes include:
- Physician burnout recovery stories
- Coaching tools for stress, imposter syndrome, & difficult dynamics
- Self-compassion, mindset shifts, and boundary-setting
- Conversations on career pivots, family life, and rediscovering joy
Hit subscribe and join us for a weekly debrief—because your well-being deserves to be non-negotiable.
You wouldn’t head into battle without armor, so why are we sent into the chaotic Dumpster Fire of Medicine without the tools we need to protect ourselves?
Medicine was supposed to be your calling. Instead, it feels like it’s breaking you—turning altruistic, purpose-driven, bright minds into frustrated, disillusioned, and exhausted shadows of who we used to be.
How do we know? We’ve been there. We’ve lived the long shifts, the impossible expectations, and the emotional toll. And we’ve watched too many of our peers struggle silently.
We’re The Whole Physician—three Board-Certified Emergency Physicians (and physician burnout experts) on a mission to rewrite the story of medicine. Our podcast isn’t just another pep talk. It’s a lifeline—and a quick remedy for burnout you can take with you wherever you go.
Whether you’re driving to your next shift, heading home after a long day, or taking a rare moment to breathe, our episodes are packed with practical tools and mindset shifts that actually work:
- Find hope for the future and a renewed sense of purpose
- Rediscover joy in your work and life
- Repair and strengthen relationships (even the one with yourself)
- Quiet the mental chaos and ease emotional exhaustion
- Realize you are NOT alone.
This is your space. A space where doctors like you—who keep showing up no matter what—get the care, support, and tools you deserve. You are our people. It’s about time someone put YOU first.
🎧 Ready to reclaim your hope and joy? Listen now.
Learn more at www.thewholephysician.com.
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Drive Time Debrief: A Physician Wellness Podcast
Welcome to Drive Time Debrief, the anti-burnout podcast built just for physicians and healthcare providers who are ready to reclaim their joy, purpose, and well-being.
Hosted by the physician-coaches of The Whole Physician, this podcast delivers honest conversations, evidence-based tools, and practical strategies to help you navigate burnout, set boundaries, and find fulfillment in and outside of medicine.
Whether you're heading into a shift, decompressing on your commute home, or sneaking in a sanity-saving moment during your day, you’ll get bite-sized insights that speak to the *real* challenges of medical life—with compassion, candor, and a dose of humor.
If you’re tired of white-knuckling your way through your career and ready to feel like yourself again, you’re in the right place.
Episodes include:
- Physician burnout recovery stories
- Coaching tools for stress, imposter syndrome, & difficult dynamics
- Self-compassion, mindset shifts, and boundary-setting
- Conversations on career pivots, family life, and rediscovering joy
Hit subscribe and join us for a weekly debrief—because your well-being deserves to be non-negotiable.
You wouldn’t head into battle without armor, so why are we sent into the chaotic Dumpster Fire of Medicine without the tools we need to protect ourselves?
Medicine was supposed to be your calling. Instead, it feels like it’s breaking you—turning altruistic, purpose-driven, bright minds into frustrated, disillusioned, and exhausted shadows of who we used to be.
How do we know? We’ve been there. We’ve lived the long shifts, the impossible expectations, and the emotional toll. And we’ve watched too many of our peers struggle silently.
We’re The Whole Physician—three Board-Certified Emergency Physicians (and physician burnout experts) on a mission to rewrite the story of medicine. Our podcast isn’t just another pep talk. It’s a lifeline—and a quick remedy for burnout you can take with you wherever you go.
Whether you’re driving to your next shift, heading home after a long day, or taking a rare moment to breathe, our episodes are packed with practical tools and mindset shifts that actually work:
- Find hope for the future and a renewed sense of purpose
- Rediscover joy in your work and life
- Repair and strengthen relationships (even the one with yourself)
- Quiet the mental chaos and ease emotional exhaustion
- Realize you are NOT alone.
This is your space. A space where doctors like you—who keep showing up no matter what—get the care, support, and tools you deserve. You are our people. It’s about time someone put YOU first.
🎧 Ready to reclaim your hope and joy? Listen now.
Learn more at www.thewholephysician.com.
Sound credit:
_________________________________
Fresh by MBB https://soundcloud.com/mbbofficial
Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0
Free Download / Stream: http://bit.ly/2PK8m0A
Music promoted by Audio Library https://youtu.be/YqRO_qgBB1c
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Episodes
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Sep 8, 2022 • 20min
#26: Asking Better Questions
This episode highlights the idea that when we go through life desiring a different result, we need to start by asking better questions. We discuss what questions we have always been asking and which ones have delivered our present situation. Then we go through what we can do to change the questions we are asking in order to move forward to a better future! Credit to Dr. Caroline Leaf and her podcast guest, Lori Gottlieb, for describing the phases that our brain goes through in getting us from thought to action! Enjoy!!
Favorite Moments:
Kendra: Sometimes when we're going through life on autopilot, we take into consideration some programming we have from our childhood, either from the way we were raised, maybe programming from our parents, maybe our church, maybe our school, our neighborhood, whatever it is. But we do not continue to question it as we move into our adulthood. We consider the circumstances that we have as facts and the thoughts we have are not able to be changed, but that is actually not true.
Laura: That primitive brain job is to keep us alive. If something feels hard, it doesn't wanna think about it. It doesn't want to come up with a new way through or around a problem. It wants to avoid responsibility and it wants us to blame others for the problems we are having. So, if we come up with those emotionally charged, “why me?”- kind of questions. Ask instead something like, I wonder… or I'm learning… or what would it look like if… and if the answer to something is, I don't know. Maybe ask, what if I did know, or what would I tell my child If they asked me this question? Taking a guess oftentimes is the thing that allows our brain to open up to new thoughts and see potential solutions that we might not have seen before.
Amanda: Maintaining the change once you've made it. During this stage, you should expect that sometimes there will be hard days and sometimes there will be easy days. Some days you will fail and you will fall. It's in these moments that what you need the most is self-compassion, not to rip yourself apart. And we tend to be so good at ripping ourselves apart and like, see, I knew I would never do it. No, self-compassion is what you need. You cannot hate yourself into loving yourself.
Citations:
https://drleaf.com/blogs/news/identifying-breaking-free-from-the-jails-we-create-for-ourselves-the-one-question-most-people-struggle-with-in-life-with-lori-gottlieb?_pos=1&_sid=3c916b637&_ss=r
https://youtu.be/W05FYkqv7hM
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime
Sep 1, 2022 • 37min
#25: Financial Wellness with Latifat Akintade, MD
On this episode we chat with Dr. Latifat Akintade, a gastroenterologist and the dynamo behind MoneyFitMD podcast and financial wellness program. She talks about her own financial journey and what physicians can do to move toward financial freedom. In a more global sense, physicians being financially secure can be a first step in changing the culture of medicine for the better.
Some common mistakes physicians make in managing their finances:
avoiding it and delegating, thinking someone else can be trusted more than our own brains
trying one way and believing the fact it hadn't worked once means it isn't going to work
only focusing on saving and not focusing on investments
She talks about the concept of being the CEO of our own lives and remembering that we are our biggest assets. In that way, you'd never overwork and not take care of your star player (you). Also if you think of yourself as the CEO of your life, it wouldn't make sense to ignore your finances and not plan for the future.
Dr. Latifat goes into the 3 components of ideal wealth:
impact
legacy
creating our own definition of a rich life
Dr. Latifat estimates accumulating money is about 20% numbers, but the rest is mindset. She talks about simple steps to get started, even if you know nothing right now about money.
Lastly, we talk about her FREE mini-course at www.moneyfitmd.com/feedom. It covers:
creating a spending plan, even if you hate numbers and spreadsheets
understanding debt
how to make more money
changing mentality regarding wealth
After hearing her, you'll want to check out her podcast here to listen more. You can also visit her website here.
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

Aug 25, 2022 • 28min
#24: The Power of Community (the Roseto Effect)
On today's episode, we discuss the importance of social connections and how they can actually positively impact our health, mentally and physically. We share candid stories from our childhoods and recall several recent memories of this in real life. We introduce the fascinating case of Roseto, PA as described in books by Dr Lissa Rankin and Malcolm Gladwell. We also talk about the Dr Alexander and his work with rat parks and addiction. Share this episode with those who make up your modern-day Roseto. Connection may just trump all.
Favorite comments:
Amanda: So the only thing that they could come up with was that there was something about this town and their social solidarity that was somehow more important than any of the things that they thought, you know, medically were important for longevity.
Laura: Loneliness is likely to increase your risk of death by 25%. Loneliness and living alone and poor social connections are as bad for your health as smoking 15 cigarettes a day. That is crazy to me. Loneliness is worse for you than obesity. It causes increased high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, severe depression, early mortality and even dementia.
Kendra: And so maybe being more intentional about that village or creating that village no matter where you are to help with that. Because number one, you show up as a better mom, if you have your own back. And we've talked about this in several podcasts, just considering that you also need, you know, a connection with someone to vent with someone or someone that, you know, is going through that same stage of life.
Kendra: The challenge we want you to leave today with is, who can you call or spend time with in the next couple of days that will be good for you? That will make you feel good. That will refresh your soul and above all, make you laugh and laugh hard and laugh without restraint. Because we know laughter is the best medicine.There's a quote from Mother Theresa. It says, “If you want to change the world, go home and love your family”. So we challenge you today. Find your people. Call or spend time with them in the next couple of days.
Works mentioned:
https://lissarankin.com/books/
https://www.gladwellbooks.com/titles/malcolm-gladwell/outliers/9780316040341/
campaigntoendlonliness.org
https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/what-does-rat-park-teach-us-about-addiction
https://www.escardio.org/The-ESC/Press-Office/Press-releases/lonliness-is-bad-for-the-heart
Resource:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1695733/
For more - visit our Emergency Medicine News article on the Roseto Effect
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

Aug 18, 2022 • 12min
#23: 10 Signs of Emotional Maturity Pt. 3
This episode is part 3, the final part, of our evaluation of Signs of Emotional Adulthood according to americalbehavioralclinics.com.
Signs 8-10 of Emotional Adulthood:
8. Believes in him/herself
9. Approachability
10. Sense of humor
Referenced article:
americanbehavioralclinics.com: “10 Signs of Emotional Maturity”
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

Aug 11, 2022 • 17min
#22: 10 Signs of Emotional Maturity Pt. 2
In part 2 of our journey through discovering what Emotional Adulthood looks like, we discuss how we can learn from every experience, seek to understand each other and how to build our resiliency. There are so many fantastic examples in this show and they are so applicable to today's modern family and relationships. So sit back and enjoy the doc's discussion on what mindsets we can develop to propel us into our emotional adulthood.
Emotional Adulthood:
1. Looks for Learning and Growth From Every Opportunity
2. Actively seeks out multiple points of view to help inform their own
3. Able to stay resilient
Next week we will wrap up the final thoughts on this topic! Enjoy!
Credit to:
Americanbehavioralclinics.com, “10 Signs of Emotional Maturity”
https://americanbehavioralclinics.com/10-signs-of-emotional-maturity/
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

Aug 4, 2022 • 15min
#21: 10 Signs of Emotional Maturity Pt. 1
In this episode we start a series on the 10 Signs of Emotional Maturity as laid out in this article from americanbehavioralclinics.com. This follows our introduction on Emotional Maturity in Episode #20 explaining what it is. But here are some characteristics of someone exhibiting emotional maturity:
#1: Being Flexible - when things don't go according to plan, emotionally mature people can roll with it and come up with Plans B or even C. They don't let speed bumps derail the entire plan.
#2: Taking Ownership and Responsibility - an emotionally mature person has self-honesty and acceptance. They don't need someone to blame when things go wrong. They can objectively look at their contribution in the situation- for more understanding and a better chance to course correct.
#3: Knowing that They Don't Know Everything - an emotionally mature person is much more interested in learning than always being right.
Next week we will tackle 3 more characteristics of emotionally mature people.
Article referenced:
https://americanbehavioralclinics.com/10-signs-of-emotional-maturity/
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

Jul 28, 2022 • 25min
#20: Emotional Adulthood
In this episode, we discuss how to go from emotional childhood to emotional adulthood and what that looks like as we progress from one into the other. We share some candid and real stories in our own lives of becoming aware of when we moved into emotional adulthood from a place of victimhood and blaming. Enjoy our show!
Commentaries:
Amanda, "When we stay in that disempowered place, that's called emotional childhood. When we move into an emotional adulthood, that is when we start taking responsibility and realizing that only we have control of how we feel."
Laura, "Instead of judgment, I started to look with curiosity myself and decided that I could have a relationship with my dad that was positive. And even, he passed about five years ago, I still have a relationship with him. The relationships that we have are in our minds and even the ones that we have from the past, whether they're good or bad, that's also in our minds."
Laura: "Instead, I now am Laura and I've had experiences that have changed me. But now I've allowed them to be a source of strength and a source of love and compassion and grace for other people."
Kendra, "But when we operate from an emotional childhood, we actually use a lot of blame. And so we blame others for how we're feeling or we blame others for the actions they do because in a way we're kind of trying to control their actions. Because we want the result that will make us feel better. When, in reality, we can't control other people. We can't control what they're thinking, what they're saying or what their actions are."
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

Jul 21, 2022 • 21min
#19: Self Confidence
In this episode we discuss the difference between confidence, self-confidence, and arrogance.
Confidence is what you gain from past experience, whereas self-confidence is trusting that you have what it takes for your future.
Self-confidence is different from arrogance in that arrogance comes from a place of lack, whereas self-confidence comes from a place of abundance.
Some of our favorite moments:
"Self-confidence is...being secure i yourself and your abilities, your ability to trust yourself, knowing that you can experience any emotion, including failure without being harmed."
"Self-confidence is...your overall opinion of yourself."
"Self-confidence is...knowing that you're gonna show up for yourself, that you're gonna have your own back. No matter what happens, you are not gonna tear yourself apart."
"Self-confidence is...giving yourself unconditional love and encouragement."
"Self-doubt is the opposite of self confidence. That's where we question our abilities." We question our value as a person. When we mess up, we criticize ourselves."
"When we have self-confidence, we know that we can try hard things- even things that have a risk of failure- because we're not afraid of how we're going to feel. And we're not afraid of how we're gonna treat ourselves in the aftermath."
"Most of the worst things that ever happened to us are just in our heads."
"You can be self-confident to have the courage to do something a little bit fearful because you're willing to feel that feeling."
"Arrogance is...the opposite of self-confidence. It's FALSE self-confidence, trying to make yourself seem bigger than somebody. Self-confidence isn't in a comparison trap."
"People who are coming from a place of abundance and wholeness and love, they don't hurt people."
"If you're coming from a place of arrogance, you're so petrified that you're going to be judged."
"Self-confidence comes from a place of abundance and safety and knowing that we aren't going to judge ourselves negatively."
"What you are today is not fixed....you have control over where you're going."
"We have to be willing to experience discomfort consistently to start building on our self-confidence...we have to be able to be comfortable in that place of discomfort, feeling those negative feelings in order to grow."
"Failure earns success...worry only pretends to be necessary."
"Bottom line is: love who you are."
"You can believe that you're doing the best you can with the knowledge you have now."
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime
Jul 14, 2022 • 49min
#18: "You Are Not Broken" with Kelly Casperson, MD
On this episode we host, Dr Kelly Casperson. Dr Casperson has a number one, best selling Amazon book that just released on June 28th. She is a urologist wife, mom, sex educator, and top international podcaster, whose mission is empowering women to live their best lives. We have such a candid, real and transparent conversation about her new book and how women can stop "should-ing" all over their sex lives!! Hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did!
Some of our favorite moments:
Dr Kelly Casperson's quotables,
We've got like Hollywood and religion and our parents and the school system, that's giving us a sex education. It's mostly like a disease and pregnancy prevention plan, but like a truly adult education is totally lacking.
“Oh, well you're not broken, 70% of women don't.” You know, so it's just like part of the normalization of these people's experience. Because where are they supposed to go?
But it's like even trying to get out medically accurate stuff is very, very difficult. Like on Instagram I have to, I have to say intimacy a lot. Like intimacy is my code word for sex. But I mean, intimacy is so much bigger than sex, but I don't feel comfortable saying sex cuz I don't wanna get blocked.
You know, don't turn sex into like, four hours of cardiovascular exercise and eight fruits and vegetables and eight hours of sleep and like, you know, two sexual things a week. It's like the whole point of this is adult play. Like it's supposed to be playful. It's supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be, you know, bring added pleasure to your life. And it's like all that shame and "shoulds" we put on ourselves.
I always like to normalize responsive desire. And what we see is again, stereotyping, which is easy to do, but it's helpful sometimes. Is that women tend more towards responsive desire than spontaneous
And if you can learn to communicate and if you can learn to like, be on somebody's team. Like at the end of the day, you're on their team and you're just trying to solve a problem. And, and what I've found in the sex coach thing that I do is like, is actually rarely about the sex. It's usually, there's usually something else going on.
To find Dr Kelly Casperson, go to:
https://www.kellycaspersonmd.com
@kellycaspersonmd (Instagram)
Podcast: "You Are Not Broken" with Kelly Casperson
Book Just Released:
You Are Not Broken: Stop "Should-ing" All Over Your Sex Life, Dr KJ Casperson, June 28, 2022.
If you want to work with us, visit our website: www.thewholephysician.com. We have private coaching and CME courses available. Additionally, we're happy to lecture for your institution. Sign up for our Weekly Well Check by clicking the link. The Weekly Well Check is your weekly dose of encouragement and your only access to secret insider sales on our products.
If you'd like something you can use today, download our free Top 10 Mindset Hacks for Doctors here.
For a free quote on Own-Occupation Insurance, you're welcome to use our affiliate link: patternlife.com/drivetime

Jul 7, 2022 • 30min
#17: Feeling Feelings
Processing feelings and emotions, acknowledging and understanding them, and the impact of suppressing emotions are the most interesting topics in this podcast. The hosts discuss how doctors disconnect from their emotions, the conditioning to suppress negative emotions, and the importance of processing emotions for healthcare professionals. They also explore society's influence on avoiding certain emotions, taboo emotions, and steps towards self-love and acceptance.


