

Perpetual Traffic
Tier 11
Perpetual Traffic is a weekly podcast for CMOs, marketing directors, and business owners who want to master paid advertising, scale their businesses profitably and stay one step ahead of the shifting paid advertising landscape of today.
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
Hosted by Ralph Burns (CEO of Tier 11, managing $200M+ in ad spend), the show covers digital marketing strategy, paid traffic optimization, and performance marketing, featuring expert interviews, case studies, and actionable campaign breakdowns.
If you’re tired of wasting ad spend on campaigns that don’t convert, struggling to prove marketing ROI to executives, or overwhelmed by constantly changing platform algorithms and marketing tactics that promise results but deliver disappointment you’re in the right place.
This show will give you the proven strategies from agencies managing millions in ad spend, behind-the-scenes campaign optimizations that actually work, and expert insights on marketing metrics that matter for real business growth.
From Meta Ads and Google optimization to landing page conversion tactics and marketing attribution, each episode delivers actionable strategies you can implement immediately to improve your ROAS and scale your marketing efforts.
Get all the free episode resources at perpetualtraffic.com
13+ million downloads | 700+ episodes | Weekly since 2015
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Oct 28, 2022 • 17min
Doubling Revenue and Cutting CPL in Half | Case Study
How much would you pay for a strategy that could double your revenue and increase your booked calls by 230%, all in 3 months? On today's episode, Ralph breaks down a recent case study where they helped a client increase their booked calls by 230%, drop the cost per booked call by 54%, and increase their revenue by 107%, all in less than 3 months. This exact framework is what they use at Tier 11 to help businesses scale and grow through customer acquisition and enhancing a client’s long-term value.Tune in to hear Ralph share exactly what they did, the changes they made, and practical tips you can implement immediately to improve your marketing message.IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN: The customer acquisition amplification frameworkHow to fix your messaging with the Creative Lab Analyze your ads for performance and resultsThe role of emotion in advertisingWhat is conversion architecture?Why value-first marketing is so effective How to align your ads with your marketing funnelLinks and Resources:Breakthrough Advertising by Eugene M. SchwartzTier 11Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/Tier 11 Data Suite

Oct 25, 2022 • 46min
Important Black Friday/Cyber Monday Tips with Savannah Sanchez
Want to get the most out of Black Friday and Cyber Monday? Stop having big sales offers every month. On today's episode, Kasim sits down with Savannah Sanchez, a world-leading authority on TikTok media buying, to discuss Black Friday and Cyber Monday marketing. According to Savannah, Black Friday remains one of the busiest shopping days of the year. However, the season's relevance is on a slow decline. The emergence of November-long sales and multiple offers throughout the year are slowly diluting the importance of what was once the most important day for most marketers and retailers.Tune in to discover some super-digestible tips on running holiday shopping ads and getting the best out of the most intense holiday shopping period of the year. Discover why Kasim believes Performance Max for Black Friday is like nuclear technology: it could save humanity but also blow up your garage. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN:How to prepare for Black Friday (BF) and Cyber Monday (CM)Testing ads for the holiday monthsUsing TikTok for BF ProspectingThe best time to launch a Black Friday marketing campaignMarketers are shooting themselves in the foot with early Black Friday dealsAre Black Friday deals still effective?Marketers need to stop creating a false sense of scarcity with their productsDealing with attribution on TikTok LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Thesocialsavannah.comSavannah's TikTok Ads courseSavannah's YouTube ChannelConnect with Savannah via Twitter Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/Tier 11 Data Suite

Oct 21, 2022 • 14min
Important Black Friday/Cyber Monday Tips | Sneak Peek with Savannah Sanchez
What are you doing with your marketing to prepare for Black Friday and Cyber Monday?On today's episode, Kasim sits down with Savannah Sanchez, a world-leading authority on TikTok media buying, to discuss marketing ideas to help you conquer Black Friday and Cyber Monday. Black Friday and Cyber Monday - two of the most important shopping days are quickly approaching. Smart marketers know the best time to start driving more traffic to your website is a month in advance. Why? Because the closer you get to the biggest shopping season of the year, the more you’re going to pay for advertising. Tune in to discover some super-digestible tips on preparing and taking advantage of the busiest shopping days of the year.IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN:How to prepare for Black Friday (BF) and Cyber Monday (CM)Using TikTok for BF ProspectingThe best time to launch a Black Friday marketing campaignWhy Meta sites are exceptional for running BF and CM retargeting campaignsThe future of holiday marketingAre Black Friday deals still effective?Why Google rarely drives results for BF and CM LINKS AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Thesocialsavannah.comSavannah's YouTube ChannelConnect with Savannah via Twitter Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/

Oct 18, 2022 • 45min
WTF is a Pixel-less Funnel? With Depesh Mandalia
What is a "pixel-less" ad campaign?On today's episode, Kasim talks to Depesh Mandia, a wicked smart Facebook ads expert and the founder of SM Commerce. They discuss a new way of running ads - what Depesh calls PTSD. If you've been running Facebook ads for the last 12 months, you've probably encountered a Pixel-less Traffic System Design (PTSD). This is essentially an ad formula that doesn't need pixel tracking. And when you don't need pixel tracking, iOS14 isn't an issue anymore.Listen in to learn how you can use a "pixel-less" ad campaign to generate greater control, visibility, and accuracy in your ads - as well as better retarget your ideal clients without necessarily taking them out of Facebook. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN: The "pixel-less" ad campaign This week's nugget: How to use Facebook's built-in reporting toolThe loss of data as a result of the iOS 14 update A content-first approach to marketingWhy you need to stop taking people out of FacebookThe best way to learn about ads: spend your own money on adsHow to consistently feed the algorithm with good dataDepesh's definition of a good adLinks and Resources:Smcommerce.comDepeshmandalia.comConnect with Depesh on LinkedInTier 11Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/Tier 11 Data Suite Tier 11 Data Suite

Oct 14, 2022 • 24min
How to Make Musicians Go Viral on TikTok with Dana Fitzpatrick
What type of content performs well on TikTok?On today's episode, Ralph and Kasim continue their TikTok for artists discussion with Dana Fitzpatrick from Moxi Group. Dana shares some pretty impressive results from their TikTok ad campaigns. In just two weeks, spending $60 a day, Dana and her team managed to 5X a client's TikTok views from 200,000 to a million. They also used the same strategy to increase another client's followers from 1,000 to 6,000, spending $40 a day. Listen in to hear Dana break down her TikTok ad campaign strategy and the unique content ideas you can use to blow up on TikTok. Discover why advertising on TikTok is more effective when musicians throw in a mix of organic content and paid ads.IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN: Why TikTok is perfect for artistsHow to blow up on TikTokImpact of combining paid and organic contentTaking advantage of TikTok's instant pageUnique content ideas that work every timeThe benefits of creating really good content on TikTokWhat to do when campaigns are not driving intended resultsLinks and Resources:Themoxigroup.comDana's email - Dana@themoxigroup.comTier 11Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://www.activecampaign.com/

Oct 11, 2022 • 35min
How a Single Mom is Using TikTok to Market Musicians in 2022 with Dana Fitzpatrick
What exactly makes TikTok perfect for artists?On today's episode, Ralph and Kasim discuss TikTok for artists with Dana Fitzpatrick from Moxi Group, a full-service social media management and advertising agency. What's interesting about Dana is that she's only been in the TikTok space for less than six months, and she's already driving results for her clients. Whether you're a singer, songwriter, visual artist, or performer, you can use TikTok to launch your visibility and popularity beyond the app. Listen in to learn unique content ideas you can use to blow up on TikTok, get your music discovered by millions of new listeners, and raise your artistic status online.IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN: Why TikTok is perfect for artistsThis week's nugget: How to use TikTok hashtags to grow your reachHow to promote your music on TikTokWhy consistency is the key to TikTok successUnderstanding TikTok ad targeting dos and don'tsHow to use TikTok's Instant PageLinks and Resources:Themoxigroup.comDana's email - Dana@themoxigroup.comGeniusurl.comTier 11Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://www.activecampaign.com/Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/www.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetual

Oct 7, 2022 • 22min
Lessons from a Reality TV Icon with Willie Robertson of Duck Dynasty (Part 2)
Want to know how to build an exciting personal brand in a few easy, actionable steps?On today's episode, Kasim sits down with former TV personality and serial entrepreneur Willie Robertson to talk about Willie's biggest failures, successes, and the key elements of building a strong personal brand. Willie believes authenticity is the answer to credibility. Gone are the days when people admired a person's "ever-polished" image and over-rehearsed presentation. As a marketer, putting up an ultra-polished persona is the quickest way to lose trust. And people don’t buy from people they don’t trust.Tune in to hear Willie share what Kasim calls the ultimate masterclass to building an authentic personal brand. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN: How the Duck Dynasty was bornThe role of authenticity in personal brandingWillie's biggest successes and failures Why you need to embrace the possibility of failureWays to invite opportunities into your lifeHow to differentiate yourself in a competitive marketSide note: how to raise your kids the right wayLinks and Resources:Duckcommander.comBuckcommander.comBook - American EntrepreneurConnect with Willie on Instagram Tier 11Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://www.activecampaign.com/Tier 11 Data Suite https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualwww.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite

Oct 4, 2022 • 32min
Growing a Global Media Brand with Willie Robertson of Duck Dynasty
What can Duck Dynasty's Willie Robertson teach you about marketing and running a profitable e-commerce brand?On today's episode, Kasim talks to Willie Robertson, the current CEO of the Duck Commander and a TV personality best known for his appearances on the reality TV series Duck Dynasty. The duo met at the Commitment Summit in Costa Rica, where Willie made a massive impression on the audience with his authenticity.Listen in to hear Willie share how he managed to build multiple e-commerce brands, star in a reality series, run a successful business and still have time for family.IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN: What it's like running multiple businessesThis week's nugget: Get into every interaction with a helping mindsetWhy you need to have the right people in the right rolesHow to lead with humility and still communicate clear expectationsThe downside of being a celebrityThe future of streaming and the rise of on-demand videoHow to choose the right opportunities for your brandLinks and Resources:Duckcommander.comBuckcommander.comConnect with Willie on Instagram Tier 11Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite https://www.activecampaign.com/Tier 11 Data Suite www.AdRoll.com/PThttps://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/

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Sep 30, 2022 • 49min
How Meta Plans to Make Advertisers More Money (Part 2)
What can you do right now to improve ad performance on Meta platforms?On today's episode, Ralph and Kasim break down the main takeaway from Meta's Performance Marketing Summit - the Performance 5 framework. The framework is Meta's new set of best practices for marketers wanting to maximize ad performance on Facebook and Instagram. As Ralph explains, Performance 5 aligns with what we've come to expect from Meta over the last decade - more automation and use of AI-powered tools, adoption of more engaging video ads, and a deep focus on measurable results.Listen in to learn the 5 components of ad success on Meta platforms and why marketers should strongly consider adopting some, if not all, of the aspects of the Performance 5 framework.IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN: What is Meta's Performance 5?How AI is changing advertisingThe benefits of diversifying your front-end ad messagingWhy you need to check if the Facebook Conversion API is working or notBusiness results validation In-platform conversion and after-the-click experienceCreators for direct response advertisingWhy Facebook favors ads that run according to their playbooksLinks and Resources:Tier 11Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:Tier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/Tier 11 Data Suite

Sep 27, 2022 • 34min
3 Takeaways from Meta's Performance Marketing Summit (Part 1)
What is the future of Meta advertising - and is it time for marketers to start embracing AI? On today's episode, Ralph and Kasim share the main takeaways from the inaugural Meta Performance Marketing Summit. Ralph attended the invite-only event designed for market leaders in the performance marketing space. Everybody seems to believe Meta is in crisis. For the first time ever, the company's growth is slowing down after almost 20 years. So the big question remains, what does all this mean for marketers? As Ralph explains, ad performance is all that matters. And so far, Facebook ads are still driving results. But you have to know Meta's agenda if you are to be successful on their platforms. Listen in as Ralph reveals all the secrets from the Meta Performance Marketing Summit and what marketers can expect from AI-generated ad campaigns.IN THIS EPISODE, YOU'LL LEARN: The future of Meta advertisingThis week's nugget: Drive traffic to your website and get people's emails using retention.io The Performance 5 and Facebook advertising successHow to ensure your cold outreach is not violating anti-spam lawsThe core aspects of AI-generated ad campaignsWhy Facebook is way better at split testing than GoogleFacebook and Google favor ads that run according to their playbooksLinks and Resources:Tier 11Perpetual Traffic SurveyPerpetual Traffic WebsiteFollow Perpetual Traffic on TwitterConnect with Ralph and Kasim on TwitterOUR PARTNERS:Get a Free Month of Blogs from BKA ContentGet a Free book on how to optimize your website Conversion Fanatics7 Levels of Scale workbookGet Roland’s book, Zero Down, FREEFind out your Leadership Trust Score at Ready to Lead.Register for our free Founders Board workshopThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Perpetual Traffic? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on iTunes and leave us a review!Mentioned in this episode:www.AdRoll.com/PTTier 11 Data Suite https://perpetualtraffic.com/advertise-with-us/https://www.NEXTInsurance.com/perpetualTier 11 Data Suite https://www.activecampaign.com/


