The Cave of Apelles
Jan-Ove Tuv & Bork S. Nerdrum
Long form conversations on culture, myths, and philosophy.
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Jan 15, 2022 • 1h 25min
Frederik Magle on his Education at Conservatory, his Music, and Loosing the Fear of Becoming Kitsch
He is a danish, tonal composer who seeks to create works you would want to listen to on your deathbed. Frederik Magle visits The Cave to explain why storytelling — not musical technicalities — is the goal of a composer.
He also touches on the strange and mixed reception of his work, and how the sway «modern» values may still hold over classically minded people, and how to counter that.
The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Öde S. Nerdrum.
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Jan 5, 2022 • 24min
A Hidden Treasure among Painters: Olga Boznańska | Kristine Onsrud & Jan-Ove Tuv
Kristine Onsrud and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to talk about the 19th century Polish painter Olga Boznańska and her loose manner of painting. The topics covered in this episode include:
• Who was Olga Boznańska?
• Edvard Munch and the squinting test
• Boznańska VS. Helene Schjerfbeck
• Jack the Ripper (aka. Walter Sickert)
• Self-portrait at Age Twenty-two by Munch
• Portrait of the painter Anna Saryusz-Zaleska by Boznańska
• "The Sick Child" (1986) by Munch
• Boznańska VS. Bonard
• Bonard VS. Matisse (comparing an old master to a psychopath)
• Lack of philosophical training in traditional painting academies
• Combining two opposite principles to achieve a masterpiece
• Boznańska: achieving flatness and volume simultaneously
• The concept of colors being friends
• Getting an unfinished totality instead of a finished detail
• The problem of hyper-realism and painting from photo
• Jacques Louis David's portrait of Madame Récamier
• Constable, Rembrandt and Titian: their loose manner of painting
• Titian's Pietà and the concave shape of Mary Magdalene's head
• Eugene Carriére and his "floating figures"
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The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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Viorel Trandafir
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Dec 26, 2021 • 14min
The Hunt of Odd Nerdrum continues... | Jan-Ove Tuv, Öde & Bork Nerdrum
The trio behind "The Hunt of Odd Nerdrum" sit down to talk about Nerdrum's sources of inspiration that they did NOT cover in the documentary.
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The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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Dec 15, 2021 • 1h 4min
Vebjørn Pedersen & Magnus Vanebo on how Woke Activism Threatens the Entire Cultural Field
Vanebo returns to The Cave together with his colleague Vebjørn Pedersen to talk about the principal's role in supporting social justice activism at the school, "Decolonization" as a tool to remove the last remnants of classical training, and how to cope with the irrational behavior from the woke activists.
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Dec 5, 2021 • 19min
Effective Storytelling and Plot Twists in Giacomo Puccini's Operas | Carl Korsnes, Öde Nerdrum & Tuv
What is it that draws people to Giacomo Puccini and his operas?
Öde Nerdrum, Carl Korsnes Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to talk about how Puccini employs storytelling in his works.
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Nov 25, 2021 • 32min
The Art of Poetry | Aftur Nerdrum, Thomas Løland & Jan-Ove Tuv
Aftur Nerdrum, Thomas Løland and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to talk about the metrics of poetry, ways of telling a story in a poem and much more.
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Nov 15, 2021 • 1h 13min
Stanislavski's What If, Credible Acting and the Essence of Shakespeare | Interview with Rune Temte
The Hollywood actor Rune Temte, known for The last Kingdom, Captain Marvel and A Boy Called Christmas (this year's Christmas movie), sits down with Jan-Ove Tuv to talk about Stanislavski's system, how to act with credibility and modern versus traditional Shakespeare performances.
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Jan-Ove Tuv also touches on the work of the scriptwriter Robert McKee and his perspective on archetypal storytelling.
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The centerpiece was a poster of Ubba (Rune Temte) from The Last Kingdom.
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Nov 5, 2021 • 16min
On Søren Kierkegaard and Making Life More Difficult | Bork Nerdrum, Jan-Ove Tuv and Sebastian Salvo
The Cave of Apelles team discuss an idea presented by the danish philosopher Søren Kierkegaard: Ought we not to make life more difficult now that so many aspects of our daily activity are accomplished with so little effort?
Our ability to be human and compassionate might depend on this question.
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Noz Vvu
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Oct 25, 2021 • 24min
Improve Your Painting with the Memorosa Dogmas | Öde Nerdrum & William Heimdal
Öde Nerdrum, William Heimdal, and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to discuss the Memorosa Dogmas — what they mean and how rigorously they follow them. Nerdrum also compares their dogmas to Dogme 95, which was a collective of Danish filmmakers that had a set of 10 rules for making movies.
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Oct 15, 2021 • 48min
Andreas Hardhaug Olsen on Critical Theory, False Consciousness and the Frankfurt School
Andreas Hardhaug Olsen is a writer, visiting The Cave to talk about the connection between Social Justice activism and «Critical Theory», an intellectual product of The Frankfurt School.
He sits down with Tuv to discuss what happens to culture when «objectivity» is deemed an oppressive tool, and dissent is fiercely attacked - or at best dismissed as «false consciousness».
«Wokeness» being a major threat to «creative freedom», knowledge of its principles and origin is fundamental to survival.
Olsen also delves into the thinkers who originated this mentality, and how it is being employed.
Hardhaug Olsen's Reading list:
* Herbert Marcuse, Repressive Tolerance: https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/publications/1960s/1965-repressive-tolerance-fulltext.html
* Herbert Marcuse, One-Dimenstional Man: https://www.akademika.no/one-dimensional-man/marcuse-herbert/9780415289771
* Georg Lukács, History and Class Consciousness: https://www.bokkilden.no/sosial-og-kulturhistorie/history-and-class-consciousness-georg-lukacs/produkt.do?produktId=2250341
* Martin Jay, The Dialectical Imagination: https://www.bokklubben.no/moderne-filosofi-etter-1800/the-dialectical-imagination-martin-jay/produkt.do?produktId=424096
* Thomas Sowell, The Quest for Cosmic Justice: https://www.adlibris.com/no/bok/the-quest-for-cosmic-justice-9780684864631
* F. A. Hayek, The Mirage of Social Justice: https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/L/bo5970048.html
* Helen Pluckrose & James Lindsay, Cynical Theories: https://www.tanum.no/_cynical-theories-helen-pluckrose-james-lindsay-9781800750043
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The centerpiece was a reproduction of Thomas Cole's painting "The Course of Empire - Destruction".
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