The Cave of Apelles
Jan-Ove Tuv & Bork S. Nerdrum
Long form conversations on culture, myths, and philosophy.
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Oct 5, 2021 • 25min
What is Immanuel Kant actually saying in The Critique of Judgement? | Jan-Ove Tuv and Magnus Vanebo
Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with the artist Magnus Vanebo to discuss Immanuel Kant and hist philosophical work called "The Critique of Judgment".
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The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum, with assistance from Sebastian Salvo.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. On the shelf were a Roman bust of a boy, a bust of Aristotle, and Pallas Athena.
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Sep 25, 2021 • 27min
Which Stories to Tell in a Painting and What you can Learn from Robert McKee's Story
Sebastian Salvo and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to talk about which stories you should tell in a painting and the great knowledge to obtain from Robert McKee's STORY (a book on writing screenplays).
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The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum, with assistance from Carl August Benneche Klevjer.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. On the shelf were a Roman bust of a boy, a bust of Aristotle, and Pallas Athena.
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Sep 15, 2021 • 1h 15min
Thomas Løland on Composing Verses in Rhyme, Metric, and with Storytelling to Revive Classical Poetry
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The Norwegian author Thomas Løland is a promising classical poet who writes epic stories in verse. In the 2021 edition of Sivilisasjonen's Poetry Competition, he got 2nd place with his poem "The White Doe" which was inspired by a painting by Luke Hillestad:
https://sivilisasjonen.no/kultur/dikt/54603/pa-andreplass-i-sivilisasjonens-diktkonkurranse-hjortekolla-kvit-av-thomas-loland/
Løland touches on why it is important to return to masculine poetry, the strengths of the sonnet, rhyme and the significance of constrained writing, as well as Sonatorrek by Egil Skallagrimsson and skaldic poetry.
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The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum, with assistance from Aftur Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a reproduction of Luke Hillestad's painting called "Stag".
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Sep 6, 2021 • 1h 18min
Building Architecture for an Ancient Future | Kristian Hoff-Andersen, Jan-Ove Tuv & Öde Nerdrum
Is the tide coming for classical architecture, and if so, will it merge with classical paintings and sculptures to form holistic buildings for the "ancient cities" of the future?
This and more will be discussed as the architect Kristian Hoff Andersen sits down together with Jan-Ove Tuv and Öde Nerdrum in the Cave of Apelles.
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The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum, with assistance from Carl August Benneche Klevjer.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
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Aug 25, 2021 • 28min
The Story about Anton Schweigaard and how he WARNED against German Idealism | Carl Korsnes & Tuv
Carl Korsnes and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to discuss the works of Anton Schweigaard, who was a 19th century Norwegian laywer, politician, and philosopher.
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Aug 15, 2021 • 1h 35min
Silje Hjemdal on Defunding Arts and Culture and Assigning Public Decorations to Kitsch-painters
Silje Hjemdal is an MP for the Norwegian Progress Party. She visits The Cave to talk about her party's suggestion to reduce the budget for arts and culture by fifty percent.
Critics warn of "American conditions" if all stipends for "artists" are trashed.
But what if this is exactly what we need to raise the level?
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The centerpiece was "The Prince of Painting" by William Heimdal.
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Aug 5, 2021 • 24min
Kitsch & Art — Two Different Value Systems | Magnus Vanebo and Jan-Ove Tuv
Jan-Ove Tuv, artist and cultural critic focused on modernist aesthetics. Magnus Vanebo, figurative painter exploring kitsch and classical traditions. They map art and kitsch as different value systems. They debate aesthetic disinterestedness, narrative pathos, universality, and how images aim for emotional charge or conceptual distance.

Jul 25, 2021 • 22min
EPIDEMIC: Nerdrum Students betray their Talent to become Artists — How to Reverse this Trend?
Jan-Ove Tuv, Sebastian Salvo, and Bork Nerdrum sit down to talk about the "shapeshifters" who study classical painting with Odd Nerdrum, only to knee bend to conventional contemporary art when they go out into the world on their own.
Why do these painters betray their talent and what can be done to reverse the trend?
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Jul 15, 2021 • 1h 33min
Kristine Onsrud on her Art School TRAUMA, the Florence Academy, and Studying with Odd Nerdrum
Our guest for the evening is the Norwegian painter Kristine Onsrud. Many young, figurative painters can probably relate to her art school trauma, but there are probably few who have experienced that their painting got stabbed with a pair of scissors by their so-called colleagues. This is exactly what happened to Onsrud, who eventually left the London art school to get a proper education at the Florence Academy in Italy. But the "all you do is wrong"-mentality and lack of storytelling as an integrated part of the education at FAA, finally made her apply to the Nerdrum School where she has studied since.
The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum, with assistance from Cassander Straumsgaard, and Sebastian Salvo.
The centerpiece was a self-portrait by Kristine Onsrud. On the shelf were works she made at FAA and as a pupil of Odd Nerdrum.
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Jul 5, 2021 • 21min
The Memorosa Dogmas and how they can Improve your own Paintings | Sebastian Salvo & Jan-Ove Tuv
The Memorosa Order is a group of painters that follow strict dogma. Its members include Sebastian Salvo, Öde Nerdrum, William Heimdal, Nic Thurman, Javier Adams, Kristine Onsrud, and Cassander Straumsgaard.
In this episode, Sebastian Salvo sits down with Jan-Ove Tuv to discuss the dogmas in more detail.
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