The Cave of Apelles

Jan-Ove Tuv, Sebastian Salvo & Alastair Blain sit down to talk about the 19th century landscape painter Lars Hertervig and the mythic potential of the landscape. Topics discussed in this episode: • Hertervig's dreamlike vision vs Constable's recreation of soil • Painting despite lack of social advantages • Was Hertervig "insane" or highly intelligent? • Rejuvenation in timeless images • Hertervig's clouds: pure fantasy, or did he actually look at nature? • Myths describe reality way more accurately • The advantages of painting landscapes in the studio • Plein-air plus eighty five percent black • Combining realism and symbols, empiricism and poetry • Elements in the story that are too personal get cut away • The subject has to strike you first, then it can become archetypal • When your unconscious gets pretentious… • Neurotic myth deniers • Your love or interest for it makes it archetypal ▶ Full video: https://www.patreon.com/caveofapelles 🎵 Full audio: https://caveofapelles.com/podcast Filmed and edited by Bork S. Nerdrum The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Viorel Trandafir Børge Moe Dean Anthony Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Eivind Josten Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Herman Borge Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jon Harald Aspheim Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Richard Barrett Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

The Argentinian painter Melisa Calabria sits down to explain the importance of painting self-portraits. Beyond supplying a free and patient model, Calabria perceives self-portraits as an "excuse" that allows you to depict archetypal situations. Instead of indicating egocentrism, she sees this genre as an opportunity to discover the eternal in all your models. 00:50 Introducing the guest 01:26 The self-portrait: does it have to look like yourself? 03:59 Workshops in Argentina and studying with Ricardo Celma 09:38 Painting self-portraits at the Nerdrum Studio 13:49 Archetypal imagery and using from your own experience 20:30 Getting the likeness is like learning to ride a bicycle 24:03 Rembrandt and the three levels of the self-portrait 32:40 Using yourself as a model to tell a story 35:16 Rembrandt's Self-Portrait as Zeuxis Laughing 41:05 The absurdity of being a court painter in modern times 42:08 Nature is the universal language 43:29 How much can you deviate from the likeness? 46:59 Selecting a focus to emphasize the story 52:19 Rembrandt's development as a painter 54:25 Who you are, what you want, and where you want to be The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Alastair Blain. The centerpiece was a self-portrait by Melisa Calabria. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Børge Moe Matthias Proy Shaun Roberts Viorel Trandafir Dean Anthony Fergus Ryan Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Jon Harald Aspheim Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Herman Borge Hårek Jordal Andreassen Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jose Luis Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Villiam S-ian Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/caveofapelles/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

What happens when a young painter, on the brink of economic ruin, comes into a lot of money? Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to review Nicolai Gogol's short story "The Mysterious Portrait". Topics from the conversation: • Tchartkoff stumbling upon the portrait in a picture shop • Discovering thousand gold coins in the back of the frame • Giving up the craft to become a high society portrait painter • Realizing he wasted his talent, he starts destroying other people’s work • "The Devil" — a usurer destroying the life of all his clients • Has his portrait commissioned by a religious painter to be "kept alive" • The painter becomes envious and starts painting evil expressions • The portrait ruins anyone who possesses it • "The Devil" is the lack of interest in your work • People who are afraid are easily tempted by the Devil • Are you integrated and can you stand on your own feet? ▶ Full video: https://www.patreon.com/caveofapelles 🎵 Full audio: https://caveofapelles.com/podcast The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Cassander Straumsgaard and Kristine Onsrud. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Viorel Trandafir Børge Moe Jon Harald Aspheim Dean Anthony Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Eivind Josten Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Francisco Salvacao Hårek Jordal Andreassen Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Carl Korsnes and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to talk about Scott Fitzgerald's famous novel "The Great Gatsby". Topics discussed in this episode: • Making the present eternal • Condensed storytelling and sensory descriptions • The rich descriptions of Dickens and Fitzgerald • Gatsby was a boy who never grew up • Valley of ashes, broad hips and timelessness • Killing Myrtle and Daisy’s relationship to Gatsby • Gatsby's obsession with recreating the past • What is important in a story • Gatsby or the modern Sisyphus ▶ Full video: https://www.patreon.com/caveofapelles 🎵 Full audio: https://caveofapelles.com/podcast The conversation was filmed and edited by Bork S. Nerdrum. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Matthias Proy Viorel Trandafir Børge Moe Jon Harald Aspheim Dean Anthony Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Eivind Josten Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Francisco Salvacao Herman Borge Hårek Jordal Andreassen Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/caveofapelles/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

The Scottish kitsch-painter Alastair Blain visits The Cave to convey his love for landscape painting and the importance of making it mythical. He is concerned with ancient tales like The Poems of Ossian, and claims they have wisdom or even medicine for us "if we can come to behold them from a universal perspective". Blain will also discuss how historical knowledge of the Western Scottish landscape has opened up its timeless dimension, as well as the challenges of painting landscapes in a studio. The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Sebastian Salvo. The centerpiece was landscape painting of Glen Rosa by Alastair Blain. 01:33 Introducing the guest 02:12 The Glen Rosa landscape painting 03:36 Life took me to New Zealand 05:21 Hungry Creek Art and Craft school 08:09 Oleg Korolev and the Academy of Visionary Art 17:05 The River Gryffe and the mythic landscape 24:55 Being craft-oriented and making your own tools 27:27 John Constable and painting inside VS outside 30:11 The Apelles palette is so blue! 31:08 Veiviseren (The Path Finder) 32:09 Influence from the poems of Ossian 37:04 Escaping the sad realities of modern life 43:44 Horatio McCulloch and Degas' academy idea 47:03 The joy of grief and The Sick Child by Munch 55:03 Blain's handmade brushes 1:00:25 Beautiful books and James MacPherson 1:05:50 Fionn mac Cumhaill (Finn MacCool) 1:08:05 The tale about the piper called Alastair SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Dean Anthony Jon Harald Aspheim Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Herman Borge Hårek Jordal Andreassen Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jon Harald Aspheim Jose Luis Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Villiam S-ian Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/caveofapelles/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Öde Nerdrum, Jan-Ove Tuv & Sebastian Salvo sit down to discuss Carl Jung's idea about the collective unconscious. Topics in this episode include: • Art is collective consciousness, kitsch is collective unconsciousness • Translating the unconscious, making the archetypes understandable • Jung reintroduced spirituality, but in scientific language • Modern man divided between science and belief — politics fills the gap. • Opposition between Jung's individualism and collective unconscious? • Not an island unto oneself but learning from all cultures and all times • Save the Cat! and why we only have a handful of stories • Protestantism and art as iconoclast movements • Rejecting collective unconscious robs the castle of its defense • Becoming a whole man through "re-ligion" • The superficiality of Art's claim to archetypal content • On Persephone and Demeter and Beauty and the Beast • Cindarella & Peter Pan: Many characters are aspects of one person • The Anima and the Animus: Have men lost more than women? • The reward of performing "the persona" • Daphne and Apollo» VS theater and the Dionysian mysteries • Little Red Riding Hood: Understanding, not knowing the story • The genuine laughter in Rembrandt's "Self-Portrait as Zeuxis" ▶ Full video: https://www.patreon.com/caveofapelles 🎵 Full audio: https://caveofapelles.com/podcast The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Alastair Blain. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Børge Moe Diego Eric Chartier Matthias Proy Shaun Roberts Viorel Trandafir Fergus Ryan Dean Anthony Jon Harald Aspheim Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Francisco Salvacao Hårek Jordal Andreassen Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jose Luis Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/caveofapelles/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Nic Thurman in tonight's episode to talk about his video on the Truth About Art, reactions to his commentary and common misconceptions about art history and the reevaluation of kitsch. You can watch Thurman's video "The Truth About Art" here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3ZPtSWEkZ8 00:48 Introducing Nic Thurman 04:20 On his video "The Truth About Art" 06:31 Reactions from The Boston Art Podcast 10:13 Hyper realism equals aesthetical indifference? 12:12 Disclosing a historical myth about photography 14:28 How Cezanne and Kandinsky were inspired by Kant and Hegel 23:30 19th century Realism as the first Art style 25:42 Is Kitsch just Pretty and Sweet? 30:45 Two different value systems 32:00 Kitsch values VS. Memorosa dogmas 34:53 Does outdated Art become Kitsch? 36:28 Kitsch is more than Odd Nerdrum 37:52 Let go of your "personal style" 42:00 Comparing the Art religion to Alinsky's Rules for Radicals 45:22 To those who are uncertain about "Kitsch" 51:00 People think I paint kitchens The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Kristine Onsrud. The centerpiece was a portrait of Nic Thurman by Odd Nerdrum. Studio visit with Nic Thurman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzd9_0tihk0&t=1s And he has previously featured on our show as a monthly guest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiUh1uGsNAw&t=2842s SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Dean Anthony Fergus Ryan Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Elizabeth Freeman Endika Erik Lasky Herman Borge Hårek Jordal Andreassen Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jon Harald Aspheim Jose Luis Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Shaun Roberts Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/caveofapelles/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Is Ayn Rand's book on aesthetics a worthy continuation of Aristotle's Poetics or is it inconsistent and full of contradictions? Jan-Ove Tuv, Bork Nerdrum and Nic Thurman sit down to discuss The Romantic Manifesto by the American author and philosopher, Ayn Rand. Topics discussed in this episode: • The importance of Volition and people in action • Are Rand's aesthetic ideas Kant-Hegelian? • Rand's taste in painting and confusing ideology with “quality” • On depicting people with Flaws • A clear line = A clear thought? • Rand's peculiar taste for modernist architecture • Sculptures: Just for ornamentation? • Romanticism: An embrace of life • Why figurative painters should read The Fountainhead • The pathos of the “indifferent” judgment • Romanticism gives us stories to live by ▶ Full video: https://www.patreon.com/caveofapelles 🎵 Full audio: https://caveofapelles.com/podcast The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Cassander Straumsgaard and Kristine Onsrud. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Børge Moe Diego Eric Chartier Matthias Proy Shaun Roberts Viorel Trandafir Fergus Ryan Dean Anthony Jon Harald Aspheim Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Francisco Salvacao Herman Borge Hårek Jordal Andreassen Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jose Luis Marion Bu-Pedersen Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Villiam S-ian Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/caveofapelles/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Jan-Ove Tuv and Carl Korsnes sit down to discuss the pros and cons of capitalism in terms of classical culture. Will a society based on the laissez-faire model lead to the best and most noble achievements of mankind? Topics discussed in this episode: • The philosophical roots of cultural politics • Disguised political propaganda • What if cultural politics supported classical values? • The immoral price gap between modern and classical works • Adam Smith: only virtuous products are sustainable? • The typical "capitalist" attitude towards culture • Open markets equals more "diversity" • The state: as small as possible • The solution 🎵 Full audio: https://caveofapelles.com/podcast This conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Melisa Calabria. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Fergus Ryan Shaun Roberts Viorel Trandafir Børge Moe Jon Harald Aspheim Dean Anthony Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Herman Borge Hårek Jordal Andreassen Iver Ukkestad Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jose Luis Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Villiam S-ian Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/caveofapelles/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com

Magnus Vanebo, Sebastian Salvo, and Jan-Ove Tuv sit down to discuss the Spanish philosopher Ortega y Gasset's essay "The Dehumanization of Art". Topics covered in this conversation: • The problem of pathos in literature and paintings • Salvo: "This stinks of Kant and Hegel!" • An art for the select few (screw the proletariat!) • The window metaphor: seeing "beyond the illusion" • The modern imperative: Bow to your time • Purity conveyed in emotional language • Vanebo on modern art as a jest • How romanticism dulls the mind • The sentimentality of the idea of the select few • Gasset´s greatest compliment to modern art • The artist´s approach should not be serious • Was Gasset "Woke"? • "Girls, women, and old men should step aside" • Eradicating personal sentiments from music • Art is like chimney smoke • Mallarmé´s poetry • A cult of death • All great periods «dehumanized» what they made • A summary of what modern art is ▶ Full video: https://www.patreon.com/caveofapelles 🎵 Full audio: https://caveofapelles.com/podcast The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Carl Straumsgaard. The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope. SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS! Dean Anthony Fergus Ryan Jon Harald Aspheim Alastair Blain Anders Berge Christensen Børge Moe Erik Lasky Fernando Ramirez Herman Borge Hårek Jordal Andreassen Jack Entz Warner Jared Fountain Jose Luis Maurice Robbins Michael Irish Raven Shadowz Shaun Roberts Stacey Evangelista Tonelise Rugaas Trym Jordahl Villiam S-ian Viorel Trandafir Yngve Hellan Would you like to get premium access? Become a patron: https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/ Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis: https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn Check out our other channels: https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify: https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT https://apple.co/2QAcXD6 Visit our facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/caveofapelles/ Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/CaveOfApelles For inquiries — talk@caveofapelles.com