

THINNING OF THE VEIL
Tia Smith
Prophets past and present have encouraged us to seek to understand how to part the veil between heaven and earth. This podcast discusses the doctrines, principles and patterns of how the the thinning of the veil occurs when we are engaged in the gathering of Israel. Testimonies of these greater manifestations will also be shared in the hopes that we all may have the heavens opened to us in greater degrees.
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Apr 10, 2026 • 46min
"ENDOWED WITH POWER": Peter B. Rawlins, BYU Journal 2012
What exactly does it mean to be endowed with power? Certainly there are a lot of ways to answer that question. In this article written by Peter B. Rawlins for the BYU Journal in 2012, he approaches it through a missionary lens. He details what each ordinance means in our gaining of priesthood power and the work of the Gathering of Israel on both sides of the veil. It is valuable to study a lot of different perspectives when trying to understand the nature of power, that is gained in the temple. Every ordinance delivers a different kind of spiritual gift that enables us to be effective disciples and laborers in the vineyard no matter what side of the veil you currently reside on. YouTube: Endowed with Power Video: https://youtu.be/3Lz70Z_pm0QYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS: Rawlins, Peter B. "“Endowed with Power”." Religious Educator: Perspectives on the Restored Gospel 13, no. 1 (2012): https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/re/vol13/iss1/13 Support the show

Apr 9, 2026 • 24min
FAMILYSEARCH MEMORIES TIPS AND TRICKS + UNCEXPECTED NAME IN THE NIGHT
FamilySearch Memories is a valuable resource for family history research. Most often people use it as a digital resource to store prized family memories. But, it can also be used to help solve tough genealogy problems as well. Colette recently had a revelatory experience where she received a name in the middle of the night related to her family history work. As she tried to discover who it was, she found some answers and further help as she looked in the Memories section of FamilySearch. Maybe this helpful tool will also help you discover something or someone that you been looking for. YouTube: FamilySearch Memories + Unexpected Name Video: https://youtu.be/QVItwx4ob7MFamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW:Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veil/ Support the show

Apr 8, 2026 • 25min
HEALING FOR THE DEAD AND FOR THE LIVING
There are many of us whose families are devastated by generational trauma, current struggles in family relationships, or current societal degradation. This is not a news flash to our Savior and Heavenly Father. They knew the world, society, and families at large would be in state of swift deterioration in the last days. Knowing this, they provided a way and place for healing to happen. In temples we find the healing waters that lead us to Jesus Christ. Only through binding ourselves to Him will the generations past, present, and future find healing. This episode is filled with miracles and revelatory experiences that prove that it is possible to heal that which has been broken. Although Kim Olsen's ancestors included the Boggs of Missouri, her first marriage ending in divorce, and her family being rocked by suicide, she found the transforming power that can only come when we turn our hearts to the Savior in the temple. Healing is possible and can transform the generations. Miracles will be abundant, hearts will be healed, and the rending of the veil will be given to those who seek to mend the unmendable through temple ordinances and covenants. For it is there we find the Savior in abundance. YouTube: Healing for the Dead and the Living Video: https://youtu.be/aMVJetC0YbQYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show

Apr 7, 2026 • 1h 26min
SYMBOLS IN THE TEMPLE: Discussion with Todd McKenna
When we attend the temple we are surrounded with symbols that can teach us about Jesus Christ. If we have eyes to see, the nature of our Heavenly Father and the Savior can be revealed to us in many ways. Oftentimes however, the learning of heavenly symbols can be overwhelming and non relatable for various reasons. In this episode Todd McKenna discusses ways that we can begin to understand the patterns and symbols all around us. Todd was a former Institute Teacher and Director who also is also heavily involved in the Gathering of Israel. He also serves as a sealer in the Temple. This unique perspective and his gift of teaching can help us to better "see" and understand the eternal knowledge that surrounds us each time we enter into the House of the Lord.YouTube: Symbols in the Temple Video: https://youtu.be/As51qjN7P0wYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veil Support the show

Apr 3, 2026 • 52min
ELIJAHS MISSION: Truman Madsen, BYU, 1977
Elijah is a well known and loved prophet. The sealing power was restored to the Earth through him in Kirtland Ohio, on April 3, 1836. The returning of Elijah and the restoring of priesthood power was a fulfilling of prophecy and was given in preparation for the glorious work that would transpire in the latter days. Because the work of the Father and the Son is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal lives of mankind, we have temples dotting the earth and the sealing of fathers to children is happening at an accelerated pace. In this BYU Speech, originally given on June 5, 1977 by Truman Madsen, he goes into much detail about Elijah and his foreordained work. And how we should as saints in the latter days, study Elijah more than we ever have. YouTube: Elijah's Mission Video: https://youtu.be/EFaEmY2xlgQYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:Truman Madsen, "Elijah's Mission", BYU, June 5, 1977: https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/truman-g-madsen/elijahs-mission/Support the show

Apr 2, 2026 • 38min
3 POWERFUL WAYS TO FIND RELATIVES: FAMILYSEARCH, MY HERITAGE, AND LINK-LIVES
All of the major genealogical platforms have many different tools to help anyone regardless of skill or ability. However, most of the tools never get used. Whether it is because people aren't aware, or are intimidated about learning something new, or feel like they don't have time, many opportunities to find ancestors are wasted. In this episode Colette covers some of these under utilized tools in FamilySearch, My Heritage, and Link-Lives. When looking for a long lost relative it is certainly helpful to utilize all technology that is made available to us. YouTube: 3 Powerful Ways to Find Relatives Video: https://youtu.be/EuWSoh2WBYAFamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW:Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veil/Support the show

Apr 1, 2026 • 56min
SPIRITUAL MANIFESTATIONS PREPARATORY TO KIRTLAND'S SOLEMN ASSEMBLY
Many accounts are noted of the manifestations that happened at the Kirtland Temple solemn assembly and dedication. However, there were many revelatory experiences that happened before the actual dedication of the temple. In January of 1836, many elders of the church experienced heavenly manifestations, angelic ministrations, visionary experiences and much, much more. As they prepared for the upcoming solemn assembly by organizing, sanctifying, and learning of God's commandments, they were truly blessed with many thinning of the veil experiences. The revealed pattern for ancient solemn assemblies included an blessing and outpouring of spiritual gifts and power. If we know the pattern, we can understand what our experiences can be as we choose to participate in solemn assemblies in a higher and holier way. YouTube: Spiritual Manifestations Preparatory to Kirtland's Solemn Assembly Video: https://youtu.be/IMV2qyG7eKIYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilJoseph Smith Papers: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/journal-1835-1836/135Bruce A. Van Orden, "The Kirtland Temple And Endowment of Power" in We'll Sing and We'll Shout: The Life and Times of W. W. Phelps (Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University; Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2018), 205–220.: https://rsc.byu.edu/well-sing-well-shout/kirtland-temple-endowment-power#_note-37Leonard J Arrington, Oliver Cowdery's Kirtland, Ohio, "Sketch Book": https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/oliver-cowderys-kirtland-ohio-sketch-book#note-233 Support the show

Mar 31, 2026 • 1h 38min
HOLY WEEK THROUGH THE LENS OF THE TEMPLE
Holy Week is celebrated among many different cultures and religions. However, if we look for temple patterns within Latter Day Saint theology and study the Savior's last week of His life, we find ourselves in the Holy Week's, Holy of Holies. Every pattern, every part of His redemptive work points us then and now to the crowning work done in temples around the world in these latter days. In this episode we look at the reasons for Solemn Assemblies, the temple patterns contained within Holy Week, and the roles we play in this the last dispensation to become saviors on Mount Zion. YouTube: Holy Week through the Lens of the Temple Video: https://youtu.be/5wTlAZp7LScYouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:Dieter F. Uchtdorf, “Joyfully Receive the Unexpected Messiah”, BYU Devotional April 15, 2025Passover, Guide to the Scriptures, Solemn Assembly Church TopicsRussell M. Nelson, “Grateful to Gather”, Liahona, Jan. 2025Dieter F. Uchtdorf, “Temple Blessings”, Ensign, August 2010Bruce A. Van Orden, "The Kirtland Temple And Endowment of Power" in We'll Sing and We'll Shout: The Life and Times of W. W. Phelps (Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University; Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 2018), 205–220.https://www.gotquestions.org/solemn-assembly.htmlJoel 1&2, D&C 128:22, Psalm 24:2-4, D&C 109:12, 3 Nephi 11:16-17Matthew 5:17-18, 3 Nephi 15:9 , 3 Nephi 16:5, D&C 138:1-4,11,14-18, 30-31, 36-37, 46-48, 52, 55-56, Mark 14:3, JST Mark 14:8, EXODUS 40:13-15, Isaiah 61:1, 3, Moses 1:39,Kristian Heal, “From End Times to Sacred Times”, Maxwell Institute, March 23, 2026Leland Gentry, “Redemption for the Dead (D&C 2),” in Sperry Symposium Classics: The Doctrine and Covenants, ed. Craig K. Manscill (Provo, UT: Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University, 2004), 92–102.Marion D. Hanks, “Temple Worship the Key to Knowing God”, Ensign July 2016Thomas S. Monson, “Serve the Lord with Love”, Ensign, Feb. 2014Russell M. Nelson, “The Lord Jesus Christ Will Come Again,” Oct. 2024Brigham Young, Discourses of Brigham Young, sel. John A. Widtsoe (1954), 406.Gordon B. Hinckley, “Closing Remarks”, Oct. 2024Bruce R. McConkie, “Celestial Marriage”, BYU, Nov. 6, 1977 Support the show

Mar 27, 2026 • 1h 9min
THE IMPORTANCE OF TEMPLES, John H. Groberg, BYUI, Oct. 2006
We know John Groberg from the "Other Side of Heaven" fame. But, most do not know that he was the Temple President for the Idaho Falls Temple. In that sacred calling, there cannot help but be additional insights into temple service and worship. In this talk, Brother Groberg testifies of the important role that temples should play in our lives and the reality that we can be blessed in so many ways as we serve our ancestors. He teaches that revelation can be received in these holy houses of the Lord. He says, "Temples are among the portals he uses to convey His eternal truths to earth." Truly temples are the connection between heavenly and mortal worlds. This talk was originally given at BYUI on Oct. 15, 2006.YouTube: The Importance of Temples Video: https://youtu.be/Sc1bLkdFub0YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilCITATIONS:John H. Groberg, "The Importance of Temples", BYUI, Oct. 2006: https://www.byui.edu/speeches/the-importance-of-temples Support the show

Mar 27, 2026 • 20min
THE NIGHT WATCHMAN
Preliminary and in preparation to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, the gathering must occur in great numbers on both sides of the veil. In this mighty work we are not alone. Angels are sent to bear us up, protect us, and support us in our latter day gathering efforts. Almost always, those angels sent are our loved ones beyond the veil. In this episode we hear two very real accounts of this kind of familial support from those who are working and serving in the missionary field in Brazil. These accounts were taken from the book, "Mine Angels Round About You", written by David Frederick Babbel.YouTube: Mine Angels Round About You Video: https://youtu.be/KRnzsPvnwU8Book Link: David Frederick Babbel, "Mine Angels Round About You", Cedar Fort, 2018: https://www.amazon.com/Mine-Angels-Round-About-You/dp/1462122175YouTube Thinning of the Veil Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@UCAA9WnYhYvCp1ffCe-AGUQQ SUPPORT THE SHOW: Website: Thinning of the Veil: https://www.thinningoftheveil.com/Venmo: https://account.venmo.com/u/thinningoftheveilPayPal: https://paypal.me/thinningoftheveil?country.x=US&locale.x=en_USBook: "Patterns of Revelation": https://www.amazon.com/Patterns-Revelation-Spiritual-Foundations-Hearing-ebook/dp/B0BWGLZ8VXEmail: tia@thinningoftheveil.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thinning.of.the.veil/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thinning.of.the.veil/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thinning.of.the.veilSupport the show


