Liminal Living

Scot expresses discouragement over the political alignment of evangelicals with Trump.The conversation highlights the importance of character in leadership.Young people are increasingly disillusioned with the church due to its political affiliations.Scot emphasizes the need for political discipleship in the church.The rise of authoritarianism is a concern for many Christians.Scot believes that America will survive political turmoil.The church should not be tied to any political party.There is a trend of rightist leaders being elected globally.Scot argues that the evangelical church has failed to teach political engagement.The need for reevaluation of political engagement is crucial for the church. Our devastation is an indicator of our discipleship.Christians can care at a completely different level.Politics is about compromise; dissent is necessary.We should dissent as Christians when policies harm the least of these.Pastors need to create a culture of political discipleship.The church must resist becoming an oppressive force.We need to model constructive political conversations in churches.The church's future may involve smaller congregations.Informed political engagement is crucial for the church.The church's political orientation should be shaped by allegiance to Jesus.Links:Amazon Book: https://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Jesus-Leaving-Church-Looking-ebook/dp/B0CW1MS88WScot's Substack: https://scotmcknight.substack.com/Scot's Author Page: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001IQZDNO SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

takeawaysMattie moved to New York City driven by a strong instinct.Growing up in Branson felt like living on a movie set.Her upbringing was wholesome but came with pressures.She recognizes the good and bad in her evangelical background.Stability in community provided comfort during her teenage years.Questioning beliefs began at a theater camp in New York.Evangelicalism often conflates knowing and believing.Love should not have an agenda in evangelism.The historical context of women in Christianity is often overlooked.Diversity in theater challenged her previous beliefs. The concept of divine love is often restricted by societal norms.Personal identity struggles can lead to questioning established beliefs.The pressure to conform to evangelical ideals can be overwhelming.Many truths taught in evangelicalism can be challenged and deconstructed.Faith should accommodate human growth and change.Questioning beliefs is a difficult but necessary process.Control within religious contexts often masquerades as love.Family support can play a crucial role in spiritual shifts.The future of Christianity may see a decline in conservative ideologies.Cultural factors contribute to the current political landscape.Links:Website: https://www.mattiejocowsert.com/Book:  Amazon Page SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

takeawaysHiking the Camino was a transformative spiritual experience.Reflecting on life in three-month segments helps maintain focus.Faith was a spacious concept in Cassidy's upbringing.Questions about existence began at a young age for Cassidy.Deconstruction of faith can lead to deeper self-understanding.Thomas Merton's writings opened new avenues of contemplation.Queering contemplation invites a broader understanding of spirituality.Engaging with political issues is crucial for community support.Hope can be found in the innocence of children.Silence holds infinite possibilities for personal growth.ChaptersIntroduction and Background StoriesThe Camino Experience: A Spiritual JourneyReflections on Life and Time ManagementFaith and Spirituality: Early InfluencesThe Journey of DeconstructionThomas Merton: Influence and ImpactQueering Contemplation: A New PerspectiveEngaging with Political PolaritiesFinding Hope in Local ConnectionsSilence and Its Infinite PossibilitiesLiminality and Queerness: Embracing UncertaintyLinks:Connect with Cassidy: https://cassidyhall.com/Buy her Book: [click here]Listen to her Podcast: [click here]Watch Her Merton Film: https://www.dayofastranger.com/  SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

takeawaysThe journey of life often involves navigating liminal spaces.Emotional transitions can be profound and transformative.Writing is a deeply personal and exploratory process.Names hold significant power in shaping identity.Self-definition is an essential part of personal growth.Grief can be processed in various ways, including observation.Self-awareness must be balanced with self-compassion.The present moment is all we truly have.Creative expression can lead to deeper self-understanding.Life's experiences shape our understanding of ourselves and others. Learning how we became us is essential for growth.Personal histories can illuminate patterns in our lives.Trauma is rooted in our cellular nervous system.Understanding our emotions can lead to healing.Anger can be navigated without harming others.Being human involves navigating highs and lows.Mythologies provide meaning in our lives.The political is an amalgamation of the personal.Art helps us transcend our pain.We can trust in new futures as old myths die. SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

TakeawaysBradley Jersak emphasizes the importance of community in spiritual growth.He reflects on the trauma experienced within his faith journey.The problem of evil is a significant challenge for many believers.Jersak advocates for a nonviolent interpretation of atonement.He believes the cross represents God's love rather than divine violence.The intersection of goodness and suffering is a central theme in his theology.Jersak highlights the need for healing and recovery in faith communities.He discusses the importance of acknowledging complicity in societal issues.The conversation calls for bridge-building across ideological divides.Jersak's work at St. Stephen's University focuses on peace and reconciliation. We are training bridge builders for reconciliation.The exhaustion from political entanglement may lead to healing.Fear of existential crises leads to doubling down on beliefs.Deconstruction should not lead to spiritual arson.Religion gestures towards a greater mystery.The incarnation should not justify Christian supremacy.God's wrath is not violent anger but self-giving love.Consequences of turning from love are often called wrath.Retribution is a dangerous concept in faith.Faith in violence undermines the teachings of Jesus.Links:Author page [click here]Amazon Book Link [click here] St Stevens University link [click here]  SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

TakeawaysTransparency and clarity are essential in church communities, particularly when it comes to issues like LGBTQ inclusion.Churches should clearly communicate their theological stance and actively work towards creating an inclusive and welcoming environment for all.The concept of covenantal relationships, where individuals are bound together in a covenant of community, allows for diversity of theology while maintaining a sense of unity.Churches should prioritize open and honest conversations, embracing the mystery and wonder of God rather than trying to control or limit understanding.Pastors should focus on meeting the spiritual needs of their community and creating spaces for diverse spiritual exploration and community. Shifting from winning people to walking with them allows for a more authentic and compassionate approach to relationships.Questioning and letting go of beliefs, such as eternal conscious torment, can lead to a deeper understanding of God's love and grace.Creating spaces of love and service, like the Open Table Collective, allows for the inclusion and support of diverse individuals and communities.Living in liminal spaces, embracing change and uncertainty, can lead to personal growth and a deeper connection with the divine.Practicing spiritual disciplines, such as prayer and silence, can help cultivate awareness of God's presence in everyday life.Chapters:Introduction and BackgroundChallenges within the Evangelical ChurchThe Power of Covenantal RelationshipsLeaving the Pastoral Realm and Starting Open Table CollectiveFrom Winning People to Walking with ThemCreating Spaces of Love and ServiceLiving in Liminal SpacesPracticing Spiritual DisciplinesLinks:https://www.theopentablecollective.com/about-us https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-open-table-collective-podcast/id1667876129Support Links:https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=LIMINAL SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Take Away IdeasDeconstruction isn’t about losing faith, but about re-centering on Jesus.Doubt and curiosity are essential tools in questioning rigid religious structures.The power dynamics of church leadership need reevaluation; Christ-like leadership centers on humility and service.The shift from religious laws to virtues (like love, peace, and self-control) is essential for spiritual growth.The church should create space for dialogue, shared meals, and mutual support to foster genuine community.People are drawn to authenticity—leaders who admit their doubts and embrace communal wisdom.Introduction:Tommy is introduced as a musician and pastor with a love for art and church life. He shares about his background growing up in a Southern Baptist family, his love for music, and the early influence of church culture.Journey into Ministry:Tommy discusses how he found himself leading a church in his early 20s, dealing with church scandals, and eventually growing his congregation into a space for those questioning faith.Deconstruction and Rebuilding:Tommy explains his personal deconstruction process, including moments of doubt and skepticism. He talks about how his church evolved after leaving a traditional evangelical denomination.Church Growth and New Models:The conversation turns to how Watermark Church functions as a community for both deconstructing Christians and new believers, focusing on shared meals, dialogue, and Christ-like leadership.Power, Capitalism, and Faith:Tommy critiques the influence of power and capitalism on modern church structures, contrasting this with the teachings of Jesus, and emphasizing the need for a "cross-shaped" leadership model.The Role of Doubt and Curiosity:Tommy highlights how doubt and curiosity are vital for spiritual growth, encouraging open questioning of scripture and long-held beliefs.The Future of the Church:The episode ends with a discussion on the future of the church, Tommy's optimism about the current shifts in faith communities, and his belief that God's work is revealed in moments of upheaval.Links: Book: https://www.zondervan.com/p/invisible-jesus/Music: https://presonphillips.bandcamp.com/Watermark Church: Watermark Church WebsiteSubstack: https://tommypresonphillips.substack.com SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

takeawaysTom Rundel reinterprets the Book of James for modern understanding.Suffering is a common experience, not to be glorified.Spiritual bypassing dismisses the reality of suffering.Prayer should be an honest engagement with one's situation.Lament is a significant part of spiritual practice.Community support is crucial for those who are suffering.The role of elders in providing care and support is vital.Healing is not just physical but also emotional and spiritual.Spiritual practices should be integrated into daily life.The church's role is to love and support those in need. SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

takeawaysThe current political and cultural moment in the United States is characterized by the erosion of trust in democracy and the weaponization of fear and anger.Apocalyptic language is used in political discourse to create a sense of urgency and to rally support, but it often hinders productive conversations and solutions.Economic realities, such as rising prices and income inequality, are often blamed on political leaders, but the underlying problems are complex and require systemic changes.The current economic system is profit-centered, prioritizing growth and wealth accumulation over human flourishing. This has led to the exploitation of resources and the neglect of social services.Building a more egalitarian and pluralistic society requires a shift in values, prioritizing love, faith, and truth over domination, coercion, and control. Evaluate economic policies based on their impact on real people's livesPastors can address political issues from the pulpit while maintaining the separation of church and stateBeing politically engaged is a responsibility as a ChristianTake care of yourself and pay attention to your body's response to fear and anxietyHold onto truth and challenge misinformationBe open to change and willing to repentChaptersIntroduction and RecapNew Beginnings and Church ExpansionInterpreting the Political Cultural MomentThe Weaponization of Fear and AngerThe Impact of Apocalyptic LanguageBlaming Economic Realities on Political LeadersThe Profit-Centered Economic SystemShifting Values for a More Egalitarian SocietyThe Impact of Economic PoliciesThe Role of Pastors in Addressing PoliticsBeing Politically Engaged as a ChristianTaking Care of Yourself in a Politically Charged EnvironmentHolding onto Truth and Challenging MisinformationLinks:https://gravitycommons.com/matt-tebbe/https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/gravity-leadership-podcast/id1356585852Support Linkshttps://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction?coupon=LIMINAL  SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

n this episode of Non-Fundamentalist Bible Studies, Tom Rundel explores the end of chapter three and the beginning of chapter four of the book of James. He emphasizes the importance of understanding wisdom and knowledge in a non-weaponized context, encouraging listeners to seek genuine wisdom through a beautiful manner of living rather than through superficial appearances. The conversation delves into the nature of true wisdom, the inner conflicts that lead to community disputes, and the necessity of aligning oneself with God through humility and authenticity. Sponsors Quoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off) Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off)  Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)    Connect Find us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/ Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminalliving Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0ow Follow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living      Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.