Liminal Living

Dr. Thomas J Rundel
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Oct 2, 2024 • 1h 20min

84: Bruce Epperly: Homegrown American Mystics

TakeawaysMystics experience the divine in everyday life and see the holiness in others.Mystics can be both heavenly minded and earthly good, working for peace, justice, and the well-being of all people.Political discourse should involve empathy, understanding, and dialogue, rather than demonization and polarization.Finding common ground and holding space for different perspectives is essential for progress and positive change.Mystics challenge the status quo and work towards a more inclusive and compassionate society. Love and understanding are essential in our interactions with others.Practicing gratitude and mindfulness can bring peace and fulfillment to our lives.Embracing the past and working towards healing and justice is important for personal and societal growth.Mysticism can guide our actions and inspire us to make a positive impact in the world.Living with intention, compassion, and a sense of responsibility can lead to a more meaningful and fulfilling life.ChaptersIntroduction and Discussion of British Mystery ShowsDefining Mysticism and its Connection to Everyday LifeExpanding the Understanding of Mystics and their Role in SocietyThe Importance of Empathy and Dialogue in Political DiscourseMystics as Agents of Change and the Need for a Broader PerspectiveThe Challenge of Loving Your Enemies and Working for Positive Political ChangeThe Power of Love and UnderstandingEmbracing the Past and Working Towards HealingLiving with Intention and CompassionThe Role of Mysticism in Guiding Our ActionsLinks:https://www.drbruceepperly.com/Buy his book: [click here]Support LinksQuoir Square 2 Class and Community [click here] SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sep 27, 2024 • 35min

83: Tom Rundel: Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James 3

The book of James addresses the power of speech and its implications.Teachers in the church are held to a higher standard.Controlling the tongue is crucial for personal and communal integrity.Words can shape perceptions and influence actions.Righteousness is fundamentally linked to justice.Inconsistency in speech reflects deeper issues in the heart.The Moloch principle illustrates the dangers of short-term thinking.Charisma can be a double-edged sword in leadership.Our words can either contribute to justice or injustice.Self-reflection on how we are perceived is essential for growth. SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sep 25, 2024 • 53min

82: Caleb Campbell: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbors

TakeawaysCaleb's upbringing in a conservative home shaped his early views on faith.His experience with neo-Nazi skinheads led to critical questioning of ideologies.The rise of American Christian nationalism has created a divide in churches.Many church members are influenced by external political narratives.Christian nationalism is a blend of political ideology, tribal identity, and spiritual idolatry.The decline of trust in the church is linked to political affiliations.Engaging in conversations requires self-reflection and emotional health.Flipping tables is sometimes necessary, but setting tables is more common.True change happens at the heart level, not through confrontation.Hope can be found in the faith of global Christian communities.\ChaptersIntroduction and Symbolism of the Leviathan StickerCaleb's Journey: From Conservative Roots to Pastoral LeadershipThe Impact of 2016-2020 on Faith and CommunityUnderstanding American Christian NationalismThe Identity Crisis within American Christian NationalismThe Decline of Trust in the ChurchNavigating Conversations Across Political DividesFlipping Tables vs. Setting Tables: A Call to ActionFinding Hope Amidst ChaosLinks:https://www.ivpress.com/disarming-leviathanhttps://www.disarmingleviathan.com/Support Links:Quoir Square 2 Class and Community [click here] SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sep 20, 2024 • 31min

81: Tom Rundel: Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James 2

Faith without action is dead.The early Christian community emphasized caring for one another's needs.Treating all people equally is important and goes against favoritism.Love for our neighbors and living out the social vision of Jesus is crucial. SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sep 18, 2024 • 1h 6min

80: David Gushee: Defending Democracy From its Christian Enemies

TakeawaysFaith can provide an organizing center, meaning, and purpose in life.Gushee's journey of faith involved a conversion experience as a teenager and a broadening of perspectives through studying Christian ethics.Democracy is a system of government that belongs to the people and is based on a constitution and the rule of law.Authoritarianism poses a threat to democracy and can be fueled by religious or ideological beliefs.It is important to defend and uphold democratic principles, including free and fair elections, an independent judiciary, and the protection of individual rights. Support for democracy among Christians has eroded since the 1960s, leading to a sense of alienation and fear among conservative Christians.Conservative Christians perceive culture and politics as dominated by their enemies and feel oppressed, which has been exploited by political figures like Donald Trump.Identity-oriented politics and the rejection of pluralism are not aligned with the teachings of Christianity.The rise of authoritarianism in countries like Hungary and Russia follows a pattern of a once-dominant majority group feeling threatened by societal changes and mobilizing for action.Preserving the rules of democracy and the constitutional order is crucial to prevent further erosion of democratic values.ChaptersIntroduction and BackgroundGushee's Journey of FaithBroadening PerspectivesDefending Democracy from Its Christian EnemiesThe Threat of Authoritarianism to DemocracyThe Erosion of Support for Democracy Among ChristiansThe Rise of Authoritarianism and the Threat to DemocracyPreserving Democracy and the Constitutional OrderLinks:www.DavidpGushee.comBuy His Latest Book [click here]Support Links:Square 2 Course from Quoir [click here] SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sep 13, 2024 • 42min

79: Tom Rundel: Unfundamentalist Bible Studies: Reinterpreting James 1

Reinterpreting scripture passages can help avoid harmful and wounding interpretations that have been used in a religious and fundamentalist context.Understanding the cultural context in which scripture was written is crucial for interpretation.Every good and perfect gift comes from God, and it is important to recognize and appreciate the goodness in the world.Being quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry can lead to better understanding and more compassionate interactions.Religion should be demonstrated through actions, such as caring for those in need and avoiding power schemes. SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sep 11, 2024 • 56min

78: Chuck DeGroat: Trauma, Narcissism, Deconstruction, Dark Night of the Soul

LinksPre-order Chuck's New Book: [click here]Chucks Author Page: [click here]Chuck's Amazon Page: [click here]TakeawaysChuck DeGroat's faith journey was shaped by a mix of embodied spirituality and disorientation due to brokenness in his parents' marriage.He found a broader understanding of faith through the contemplative tradition and the mystics, which opened up a more expansive language for his experience of God.Chuck DeGroat's work as a counselor, spiritual director, and author is rooted in his own experiences of pain and the desire to help others navigate their own wounds.Narcissism in church communities can lead to alienation, disconnection, and the multiplication of pain and abuse.Self-awareness is crucial in navigating narcissistic tendencies, and it allows for growth, transformation, and the ability to acknowledge and repair the impact on others.The dynamic between narcissistic leaders and followers is often characterized by mirror hunger and ideal hunger, where the leader seeks validation and the follower seeks fulfillment of certain needs. Being drawn to authoritarian leaders can be a result of feeling a sense of alignment and connection with them, especially for those who have experienced shame and insecurity growing up.Hypermasculinity is often a defense mechanism to disown shame, and many hypermasculine individuals have experienced profound pain, trauma, and powerlessness in their past.Paying attention to the inner dashboard, which includes thoughts, emotions, body sensations, behaviors, and interpersonal relationships, can help identify symptoms of trauma and the need for healing.Deconstruction and the dark night of the soul are similar phenomena that involve questioning and reevaluating one's beliefs and experiences of God, often leading to a sense of disorientation and abandonment.Being anchored in a state of calm and presence, rather than being stuck in survival mode, allows for genuine connection, curiosity, and engagement with ideas.ChaptersA Journey of Faith and DisorientationExploring the Contemplative TraditionNavigating Narcissism in Church CommunitiesThe Importance of Self-AwarenessTransformation in the Midst of Pain and SufferingThe Dynamic Between Narcissistic Leaders and FollowersHypermasculinity as a Defense Mechanism for Disowned ShameThe Inner Dashboard: Identifying Symptoms of TraumaDeconstruction and the Dark Night of the SoulAnchoring in Calm and Presence for Genuine Connection SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sep 4, 2024 • 1h 23min

77: Matt Tebbe: Money, Power, and Abuse in the Church

Introductions Climbing Mt. Whitney Facing Internal Demons on the MountainSpiritual Roots in Catholicism Grace in Community & Abuse on Church Staff Abusive Leadership Embraces Power and Causes Trauma Using Your Voice with Clarity and Humility Spiritualizing the Poor is a Hermeneutic Mistake The God of Mammon, Power, Money, and Economy What “Love of Money” Actually Looks Like Exposing Undercover Idolatry Mammon’s Weapon is Fear of Death  What Really Causes Inflation Gatekeepers of the Bible Don’t Actually Like the Bible  Mammon “Works” and Why We Can’t See It. How to Love our Neighbor Conclusions SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Aug 28, 2024 • 56min

76: Randy Woodley: Indigenous Spirituality and Decolonizing Christianity

Chapters IntroductionsCherokee rootsMy Oppressive Missionary Colonizer YearsColonialism woven into the Christian faithThe Violence of Christian SupremacyConservative politics picks up the torch of colonialismThe Problem of Disembodied TheologyShalom and the Failed Western ExperimentDecolonizing the FaithColonial Theology that needs to Go: Hell, Exclusivity, and Original SinThe Practice of Vulnerable ConversationConclusions SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Aug 21, 2024 • 50min

75: Kathy Khang: Finding a Home, Immigration and Power in the Church

ChaptersIntroductionsGood CoffeeSpiritual Roots in the Korean Church in ChicagoRenting church space and false hospitalityRethinking Hospitality as the ChurchLoving Disagreement what it is and is NOTLove is not niceToxic PositivityThe Moving Goalposts of expectationFalse apostolic authority used to create exclusive dogmaWhat loving your enemy can look likeConclusions SponsorsQuoir Square 2 Class: https://www.bk2sq1.com/square-2-next-steps-into-reconstruction (Promo code: Liminal for 10% off)Kineo Center: https://www.thekineocenter.com/cohort (mention "Liminal" in Application for $100 off) Monk Manual: https://monkmanual.com/LIMINAL (10% off all merchandise)  ConnectFind us on the web: https://liminalliving.simplecast.com/Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/liminallivingFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCseqDsKpQv2r7AbFfrWF0owFollow us on Patheos: patheos.com/editorial/podcasts/liminal-living    Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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