

Counseling Talk — A podcast by 9Marks
9Marks
A podcast by 9Marks, with Garrett Kell, Hayley Satrom, and Deepak Reju.
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Mar 16, 2026 • 42min
On Helping Singles Fight for Purity (Ep. 45)
Three counselors give ten practical thoughts for unmarried Christians wrestling with sexual temptation. They discuss desires and God-given boundaries, guarding identity in Christ rather than marital status, and treating singleness as a gift for devoted service. Topics include grieving loss, building deep church friendships, common pitfalls to avoid, the value of accountability, and trusting God instead of a future spouse.

Mar 2, 2026 • 43min
On Medications (Ep. 44)
Deepak, Hayley, and Garrett talk about the good and bad about medications and working with doctors.Resources MentionedDescriptions and Prescriptions by Michael EmletListening to Prozac…and to the Scriptures Article by Michael EmletCan We Be Positive About Psychiatric Medications? Article by Ed WelchWhy do we seem negative about psychiatric medications? Article by Ed Welch

Feb 16, 2026 • 48min
Ed Welch on Depression (Ep. 43)
Deepak, Hayley and Garrett interview counselor and author Ed Welch about the experience of depression and how to minister to those who suffer from it.

Feb 2, 2026 • 43min
Depression Part 3 (Ep. 42)
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak share how to care for a friend struggling with depression.Resources MentionedDepression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch (31-day Devotional)Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness by Ed Welch“Tortured, Imperfect, and Held by Jesus” – article by Garrett Kell

Jan 19, 2026 • 40min
Depression Part 2 (Ep. 41)
Hayley, Deepak and Garrett talk about depression and how to think about depression as complicated suffering.Resources MentionedDepression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed Welch (31-day Devotional)Depression: Looking Up from the Stubborn Darkness by Ed Welch“Tortured, Imperfect, and Held by Jesus” – article by Garrett Kell

Jan 5, 2026 • 42min
On Depression Part 1 (Ep. 40)
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about what the Bible says about depression. Warning label: This episode also talks about a depressed person’s battle with suicide.Resources MentionedDepression: Finding Christ in the Darkness by Ed WelchSpurgeon’s Sorrows by Zack Eswine

Dec 22, 2025 • 30min
On How to Apologize (Ep. 39)
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak talk about how to offer a good or bad apology and why we struggle to apologize.Resources MentionedThe Peacemaker by Ken Sande

Dec 8, 2025 • 46min
On Anger, with Chris Moles (Ep. 38)
Garrett, Deepak and Hayley interview pastor and counselor Chris Moles, who says you can’t bully a bully. You change a person’s anger with kindness, compassion and forgiveness.Resources MentionedUprooting Anger by Robert D. Joneshttps://www.chrismoles.orghttps://www.menofpeace.org

Nov 24, 2025 • 53min
On Anger Part 3 (Ep. 37)
Garrett, Hayley and Deepak explore redemptive strategies for dealing with anger problems and growing in faith in Christ.Books MentionedAnger: Calming Your Heart (31-Day Devotional) by Robert D. JonesA Small Book for The Anxious Heart by Edward T. WelchThe Peacemaker by Ken SandeWar of Words by Paul David TrippOther Resources"Moving Toward, Away and Against" Chart (This chart is from the CCEF Marriage Counseling course taught by Winston Smith, 2010)Bible Verses on Anger

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Nov 10, 2025 • 38min
On Anger Part 2 (Ep. 36)
In this conversation, the hosts tackle the complexity of anger and personal transformation. They explore whether anger can completely subside and emphasize the power of prayer as a first response. Sharing Tony's journey of gospel change, they highlight the importance of entrusting grievances to God rather than seeking vengeance. The discussion dives into the deeper roots of anger, including grief, and encourages self-examination and repentance. With practical advice and a focus on community support, they offer hope to those wrestling with chronic anger.


