Stories With Traction

Matt Zaun
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Feb 17, 2026 • 40min

#186: The Brutal Truth About Lead Generation

SHOW NOTES:In this episode of Stories With Traction, host Matt Zaun sits down with John Welch, a B2B lead generation specialist based in Indianapolis, for a raw, unfiltered conversation about what actually works regarding lead generation and why most companies are playing the game completely wrong.John brings a decade of sales and marketing experience, including nearly 4 years focused on lead generation. Together, they unpack the uncomfortable truths about rejection, consistency, commissions, and why lead generation is fundamentally a long-term discipline, not a short-term tactic.
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Feb 10, 2026 • 7min

#185: Use Great Hooks

SHOW NOTES:In this solo episode of Stories With Traction, host Matt Zaun breaks down one of the most common mistakes even great storytellers make: they don’t spend enough time on the hook.But this isn’t about flashy intros or attention-grabbing openers.Matt reframes the hook as the point of change in a story, the moment that connects the message directly to the audience and moves them toward action.
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Feb 3, 2026 • 12min

#184: Story Strategy Sessions

SHOW NOTES:In this solo episode of Stories With Traction, host Matt Zaun breaks down a simple, repeatable system for using storytelling to cut through noise, inspire action, and lead more effectively (without adding hours to your calendar).Matt introduces the 20-Minute Story Strategy Session, a practical framework leaders can use to uncover powerful stories already hidden in their subconscious and apply them directly to business processes such as staff meetings, sales conversations, and internal communication.
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Jan 27, 2026 • 10min

#183: Storytelling FAQ Episode #8

SHOW NOTES:SUMMARY: This is part of an FAQ series featuring Michelle Griffin and Matt Zaun, who discuss personal branding and strategic storytelling.Michelle Griffin coaches on authority-focused personal branding to help professionals step out and be seen as leaders in their space.Matt Zaun is an award-winning speaker and strategic storytelling expert who helps leaders inspire action and drive results through the power of story. He’s the author of The StoryBank, a practical playbook for using strategic storytelling to build culture, boost sales, strengthen marketing, and become a dynamic public speaker.
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Jan 20, 2026 • 9min

#182: Storytelling FAQ Episode #7

SHOW NOTES:SUMMARY: This is part of an FAQ series featuring Michelle Griffin and Matt Zaun, who discuss personal branding and strategic storytelling.Michelle Griffin coaches on authority-focused personal branding to help professionals step out and be seen as leaders in their space.Matt Zaun is an award-winning speaker and strategic storytelling expert who helps leaders inspire action and drive results through the power of story. He’s the author of The StoryBank, a practical playbook for using strategic storytelling to build culture, boost sales, strengthen marketing, and become a dynamic public speaker.
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Jan 13, 2026 • 11min

#181: Storytelling FAQ Episode #6

SHOW NOTES:SUMMARY: This is part of an FAQ series featuring Michelle Griffin and Matt Zaun, who discuss personal branding and strategic storytelling.Michelle Griffin coaches on authority-focused personal branding to help professionals step out and be seen as leaders in their space.Matt Zaun is an award-winning speaker and strategic storytelling expert who helps leaders inspire action and drive results through the power of story. He’s the author of The StoryBank, a practical playbook for using strategic storytelling to build culture, boost sales, strengthen marketing, and become a dynamic public speaker.
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Jan 6, 2026 • 12min

#180: Storytelling FAQ Episode #5

SHOW NOTES:SUMMARY: This is part of an FAQ series featuring Michelle Griffin and Matt Zaun, who discuss personal branding and strategic storytelling.Michelle Griffin coaches on authority-focused personal branding to help professionals step out and be seen as leaders in their space.Matt Zaun is an award-winning speaker and strategic storytelling expert who helps leaders inspire action and drive results through the power of story. He’s the author of The StoryBank, a practical playbook for using strategic storytelling to build culture, boost sales, strengthen marketing, and become a dynamic public speaker.
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Dec 30, 2025 • 33min

#179: Authentic Scarcity and Simple Systems: The New Recruiting Playbook

SHOW NOTES:In this episode, Matt Zaun sits down with Ryan Hogan, Founder & CEO of Talent Harbor, to unpack what actually works in recruiting top sales talent today. They dig into why “keep it simple” beats complex hiring funnels, how to design a value ladder that moves buyers forward, and where AI helps (and hurts) in the hiring process. Ryan also shares the gritty lessons that shaped him (from bankruptcies to billion-dollar beliefs) and the leadership habits he brought home from the Navy.In this episode, they cover:✅ Value ladder & micro-commitments — the psychology of getting small “yeses,” including Ryan’s Hunt A Killer application flow that primed buyers before any purchase.✅ Authentic scarcity — how to use real capacity limits (e.g., only onboarding 3–4 clients/week) to increase conversion without breaking trust.✅ AI in recruiting (the truth) — great for assessments and repurposing insights; poor at relationship-building with A-players who won’t talk to a bot first.✅ Hiring veterans — look for resilience + self-awareness; ask how they learned, trained, failed, and translated that into civilian impact....and much more!BIOS:Ryan Hogan is the Founder & CEO of Talent Harbor, specializing in flat-rate, expert sales recruiting. A U.S. Navy veteran (now Reserve), Ryan previously co-founded Hunt A Killer, the immersive mystery brand, and has led multiple ventures spanning consumer products and B2B services. He’s obsessed with systems and building teams that produce results.Matt Zaun is a strategic storytelling expert, keynote speaker, and author of The StoryBank. He helps leaders use story to build culture, strengthen sales, and speak with impact.
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Dec 23, 2025 • 43min

#178: Stop Selling Services. Start Solving Problems

SHOW NOTES:In this practical, high-energy episode, Matt Zaun talks with Sean Garner, StoryBrand–certified marketer and founder of Sean Garner Consulting, about cutting through today’s 10,000-messages-a-day noise with a simple idea: clarity beats clever. They break down how to build messaging that wins attention, creates qualified demand, and turns “we do X” into “we solve your problem.”In this episode, they cover:✅ The StoryBrand core — 7 talking points that become your “verbal brand guidelines” for every email, website, and pitch.✅ Consistency that compounds — Be relentlessly consistent about the problem you solve, not the services you sell.✅ When prospects don’t know their problem — Lead with the pain, then educate on your unique solution....and much more!BIO:Sean Garner is a StoryBrand–certified coach and founder of Sean Garner Consulting, a marketing agency for local service and professional brands that want to dominate their market, not just add a few leads. His team builds message-driven websites, funnels, SEO, and provides fractional CMO support.Matt Zaun is a strategic storytelling expert, keynote speaker, and author of The StoryBank. He helps leaders use story to build culture, strengthen sales, and speak with impact.
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Dec 16, 2025 • 43min

#177: Beat Obscurity: Podcast Interviews That Build Trust (and Profit)

Show Notes:In this high-impact episode, Matt Zaun sits down with Tom Schwab, Chief Evangelist Officer & Founder of Interview Valet, to unpack how leaders can use podcast interview marketing to beat obscurity, earn trust at scale, and convert ideal clients, and how to repurpose one 45-minute conversation into a month of authoritative content.In this episode, they cover:✅ Obscurity is the real enemy — Why trusted conversations (not more funnels) drive the best partners, clients, and hires✅ “Crowded space”? Good. — Most shows are inactive; focus on the active, right-fit podcasts your ideal buyers already follow✅ Leader-as-evangelist — Your CEO’s personal audience is ~10× the brand’s; don’t abdicate storytelling—lead it✅ Quality over quantity — Don’t “create crap at scale.” Clarity, stories, and specificity beat generic content every time...and much more!BIOS:Tom Schwab is the Chief Evangelist Officer & Founder of Interview Valet, the category leader in podcast interview marketing. A former naval officer and engineer, Tom built Interview Valet’s US-based, remote team (many are military spouses) on one core belief: "our success is proportional to our systems." His firm places thought leaders on targeted podcasts, optimizes topic strategy for human listeners and AI discovery, and turns interviews into revenue-driving content engines.Matt Zaun is an award-winning speaker and strategic storytelling expert who helps leaders inspire action and drive results through the power of story. He’s the author of The StoryBank, a practical playbook for using strategic storytelling to build culture, boost sales, strengthen marketing, and become a dynamic public speaker.

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