

The Running for Real Podcast
Tina Muir
A collective of conversations that inspire, motivate, and encourage runners who know deep down that the world we want to create already exists. We all play a role in bringing it to life. Join former professional runner and life-long athlete, Tina Muir in this unique running podcast. We do not talk to professional runners about their wins or the Olympics. We do not talk about what shoes to wear or what training is best. Instead, we relate every experience back to you, and love to think hard about the questions you would always love to ask.
While we bring on well known guests like Malcolm Gladwell, Reshma Saujani, Ryan Holiday, Des Linden, Michael Gervais, and David Epstein, these are not the same old conversations. This feels more like overhearing two friends talking about the deep conversations that weigh on our hearts daily. Join us in discovering the power of running, why our sport has always been part of humanity, and how we can use it as a tool for realizing our truest self, uplifting our communities, celebrating cultures, and taking care of our Mother Earth.
While we bring on well known guests like Malcolm Gladwell, Reshma Saujani, Ryan Holiday, Des Linden, Michael Gervais, and David Epstein, these are not the same old conversations. This feels more like overhearing two friends talking about the deep conversations that weigh on our hearts daily. Join us in discovering the power of running, why our sport has always been part of humanity, and how we can use it as a tool for realizing our truest self, uplifting our communities, celebrating cultures, and taking care of our Mother Earth.
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Jul 1, 2022 • 1h 11min
Charles Moore: Don't Fear Failure - R4R 306
It was while running the Philadelphia Marathon that Charles Moore made the observation that gave rise to his upcoming memoir: Black People Don't Run Marathons. Whenever he encountered another Black runner in that race, they would give him "the nod," an unspoken acknowledgement of his presence there. Reflecting on the experience, he realized that "there was a sort of diversity issue in endurance and distance running." He had friends who exercised regularly, but none of them had run a marathon. "I thought," he says, "maybe I can do something to inspire them to add that to their resume of things that they do to continue this journey of being physically fit and healthy." Within three years he ran 19 marathons, including five of the six World Majors. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode306. Thank you to Legacy of Speed, Paceline, and InsideTracker for sponsoring this episode. Check out the Pushkin Industries x Tracksmith new podcast, Legacy of Speed. When two Black sprinters raised their fists in protest at the 1968 Olympic Games, it shook the world. More than 50 years later, the ripple effects of their activism are still felt. In this new series from Pushkin Industries, get to know the runners who took a stand, and the coaches and mentors who helped make them fast enough — and brave enough — to change the world. Hosted by Malcolm Gladwell. Find Legacy of Speed here or on your favorite podcast player. Go here and use the code TINA15 to get free shipping at Tracksmith. With your purchase, Tracksmith will donate 5% to my favorite non profit, Runners for Public Lands! Want to get rewarded for that next run? Well, Paceline thinks you should be. That's why they'll turn your physical activity into cash back: get 150 minutes of movement a week and boost your cash back from 2.5 percent to 5 percent on eligible Health & Wellness purchases made with your Paceline credit card. Restrictions, terms and conditions apply. Go to pacelinefit.app.link/TINA for details. They also have a free rewards app that lets you earn gift cards and discounts to some of your favorite brands. Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Charles. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

Jun 25, 2022 • 1h 2min
Mary Rice-Boothe: Running Is A Tool For Health, Mental Well-being and Community Creation - R4R 305
Many people start running because they're inspired - or tricked or persuaded - by a devoted runner who introduces them to the sport. Not so Mary Rice-Boothe. The chief access and equity officer of The Leadership Academy ran her first race, the New York City Half Marathon, at the request of her sister - who wasn't even a runner herself! She discovered how much she loved running while training for the race and it's since become an important part of her routine, helping her to deal with the stress of an extremely demanding job, helping to create school systems that support students, especially minoritized students. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode305. Thank you to Legacy of Speed, Paceline, and InsideTracker for sponsoring this episode. Check out the Pushkin Industries x Tracksmith new podcast, Legacy of Speed When two Black sprinters raised their fists in protest at the 1968 Olympic Games, it shook the world. More than 50 years later, the ripple effects of their activism are still felt. In this new series from Pushkin Industries, get to know the runners who took a stand, and the coaches and mentors who helped make them fast enough — and brave enough — to change the world. Hosted by Malcolm Gladwell. Find Legacy of Speed here or on your favorite podcast player Go here and use the code TINA15 to get free shipping at Tracksmith. With your purchase, Tracksmith will donate 5% to my favorite non profit, Runners for Public Lands! Want to get rewarded for that next run? Well, Paceline thinks you should. That's why they'll turn your physical activity into cash back: get 150 minutes of movement a week and boost your cash back from 2.5 percent to 5 percent on eligible Health & Wellness purchases made with your Paceline credit card. Restrictions, terms and conditions apply. Go to pacelinefit.app.link/TINA for details. They also have a free rewards app that lets you earn gift cards and discounts to some of your favorite brands. Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Mary. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

Jun 17, 2022 • 58min
Tim Brown: Celebrate the Small Wins - R4R 304
You might assume that Tim Brown, CEO and co-founder of the revolutionary shoe company Allbirds, has a footwear background, but he actually has a football background. He was a professional soccer player with the New Zealand National Team when he conceived of the idea for a running shoe made from natural materials. Being from New Zealand, where sheep outnumber humans six to one, wool was the obvious choice and the prototype for Allbirds was born. They've just launched their new shoe, the Tree Flyer, designed for distance running. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode304. Thank you to Tracksmith, InsideTracker, and Allbirds for sponsoring this episode. Tracksmith is a Boston-based company that truly cares about the quality of their running clothes. Running can be demanding on our clothes; they definitely go through wear and tear to where we may be purchasing new clothes constantly. Tracksmith designers work with the finest materials and keep you in mind as a runner, with spots for your keys, phone, and fuel. You can go here to check out my favorites! Go here and use the code TINA15. You'll get free shipping and Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase to Runners for Public Lands! Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. Allbirds' products are made from natural and recycled materials, and best of all, they know who they are. They are confident in what they do, and are changing the entire running industry before our eyes. You can see their entire collection on their website. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Tim. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

Jun 10, 2022 • 1h 6min
Jess Trengove: Setbacks Can Lead to a Great Outcome - R4R 303
Since the age of five, Jessica Trengove has had "an innate belief that we could all be whatever we wanted to be if we put our minds to it." Her goals at the time were to be a ballerina, a gymnast, and a veterinarian. Instead she became a two-time Olympian, a physiotherapist and coach, and an entrepreneur. Running has been a constant in her life since childhood, but events in recent years have given her a new perspective on the sport. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode303. Thank you to Athletic Greens, Allbirds, and InsideTracker for sponsoring this episode. AG1 is a simple and easy way to get 75 vitamins, minerals, and whole food source ingredients to help strengthen your immune system. It's simple to make and it tastes good! Go here to get a FREE year's supply of Vitamin D and five FREE travel packs with your subscription! Allbirds is all about doing things better, like collaborating with Adidas to create a performance running shoe, the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT, with only 2.94kg CO2 per pair. Their products are made from natural and recycled materials, and best of all, they know who they are. They are confident in what they do, and are changing the entire running industry before our eyes. You can see their entire collection on their website. Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide! Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Jess. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

Jun 7, 2022 • 1h 6min
Together Run 54 with Tina: 30, 45, 60 minute Run (with a mini run in Utah!)
Tina attempts to take you on a run in the Utah mountains, but after cocming very close to a nasty fall, decided to cut the run and continue in St Louis instead. Join Tina for a nature check in, body scan, senses check in, and conversation in this Together Run from her home. If you have never joined us for a Together Run, give it a try. This is the closest you can come to running with a friend without actually doing so. Come join us for Together Run 54 on your next run. Tina mentioned No sponsors today, trying to keep this authentic and like really running with a friend. If you want to support Tina and the Running For Real team: Through a monthly donation on Patreon. To sign up, click here. You can share on social media and let others know about what you are loving in these together runs. You can leave a review on iTunes. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could be listening to, but we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that topic will relate to them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe, you can find out here. Thank you for joining, we look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Jun 3, 2022 • 1h 15min
Joe Robinson and Lance Woods (We Run 313) - R4R 302
We Run 313's motto is "Connect. Run. Build." Lance Woods and Joe Robinson founded the social run club to connect "like-minded individuals through running to build a healthier and happier community." That community is Detroit, which is where the "313" comes from - it's the Motor City's area code. We Run 313 has become Detroit's largest run club in just three years, not only in-person, but also on Strava, where it has 2190 members. Joe and Lance are both competitive runners, but the runs that We Run 313 hosts aren't about competition. As Lance explains, "we're for runners of all levels, all ages, all races, all paces, whatever the case may be. We're a community-based organization that helps people to keep moving and to stay active." For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode302. Thank you to Allbirds, InsideTracker, and Athletic Greens for sponsoring this episode. Allbirds is all about doing things better, like collaborating with Adidas to create a performance running shoe, the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT, with only 2.94kg CO2 per pair. Their products are made from natural and recycled materials, and best of all, they know who they are. They are confident in what they do, and are changing the entire running industry before our eyes. You can see their entire collection on their website. Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. AG1 is a simple and easy way to get 75 vitamins, minerals, and whole food source ingredients to help strengthen your immune system. It's simple to make and it tastes good! Go here to get a FREE year's supply of Vitamin D and five FREE travel packs with your subscription! Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Joe and Lance. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

May 27, 2022 • 1h 11min
Deo Runs: Equality Matters to Everybody - R4R 301
In 1955, Rosa Parks' arrest for refusing to give up her bus seat to a white man in Montgomery, Alabama, led to a boycott of the city's public transportation system. 381 days later, Montgomery's buses were desegregated. Deo Kato used that historic number as the framework for Running for Justice, which he describes as "active activism." He set a goal of running at least 10k per day for 381 days to raise awareness and campaign against racism. He achieved that last year, but kept going, and is still running for justice, peace, and equality. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode301. Thank you to Allbirds, InsideTracker, and Athletic Greens for sponsoring this episode. Allbirds is all about doing things better, like collaborating with Adidas to create a performance running shoe, the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT, with only 2.94kg CO2 per pair. Their products are made from natural and recycled materials, and best of all, they know who they are. They are confident in what they do, and are changing the entire running industry before our eyes. You can see their entire collection on their website, Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. AG1 is a simple and easy way to get 75 vitamins, minerals, and whole food source ingredients to help strengthen your immune system. It's simple to make and it tastes good! Go here to get a FREE year's supply of Vitamin D and five FREE travel packs with your subscription! Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Deo. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

May 23, 2022 • 0sec
Portland Together Run 53 with Tina: 30 and 50 Minute Run
Join Tina for a run deep in the Pacific Northwest Forest in Portland, Oregon. On this Together Run, Tina goes on a trail run and takes runners through all the usual meditative elements of Togetehr Runs- a body scan, senses check in, physical and mental check in. Tina shares some updates and talks through some challenges in life, along with what she is doing to work through them. If you want to support Tina and the Running For Real team: Through a monthly donation on Patreon. To sign up, click here. You can share on social media and let others know about what you are loving in these together runs. You can leave a review on iTunes. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could be listening to, but we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that topic will relate to them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe, you can find out here. Thank you for joining, we look forward to hearing your thoughts.

May 20, 2022 • 1h 3min
Reshma Saujani: The Importance of Teaching Girls How to Successfully Fail - R4R 300
Reshma Saujani says that her best thinking is done when she goes for a run. Those thoughts have led to her founding Girls Who Code and the Marshall Plan for Moms; writing the best-selling Brave, Not Perfect and her new book, Pay Up: The Future of Women and Work; becoming the first Indian-American woman to run for the U.S. Congress; and being included on the Fortune 40 Under 40 list. When Reshma ran a marathon, it was because she'd just had a "really bad breakup." It was very much about healing and it was amazing," she recalls. It also made an impact on her far greater than recovering from a broken romance. It was "the beginning of my journey," she says. "In many ways it was the first time I really stuck with it, and I started really building that resiliency." Resiliency is something that girls need but aren't typically taught, just one of the issues that Reshma confronts in her fight for women, girls, and the most vulnerable in society, as she and Tina discuss in this episode. For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode300. Thank you to Tracksmith, InsideTracker, and Athletic Greens for sponsoring this episode. Tracksmith is a Boston-based company that truly cares about the quality of their running clothes. Running can be demanding on our clothes; they definitely go through wear and tear to where we may be purchasing new clothes constantly. Tracksmith designers work with the finest materials and keep you in mind as a runner, with spots for your keys, phone, and fuel. You can go here to check out my favorites! Go here and use the code TINA15. You'll get free shipping and Tracksmith will donate 5% of your purchase to Runners for Public Lands! Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven't really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you. I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all. Go here to get 25% off site wide. AG1 is a simple and easy way to get 75 vitamins, minerals, and whole food source ingredients to help strengthen your immune system. It's simple to make and it tastes good! Go here to get a FREE year's supply of Vitamin D and five FREE travel packs with your subscription. Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running For Real. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Reshma. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.

May 18, 2022 • 28min
Running Reunion: Mario Fraioli - Ep. 7
It's been nearly five years since Mario Fraioli was on Running for Real! At the time he was an athlete, a running coach, a journalist, and was putting out his popular weekly the morning shakeout newsletter, but he had yet to launch his podcast of the same name. He's now put out over 200 episodes and has been reflecting on "how fortunate I am to be able to have these conversations and to share them with other people." Not only have his guests all made an impression on him, but, he says, "my head spins every week when I hear how one of the conversations that I've had has impacted someone else. That has been just one of the, I'll call it happy accidents of my life, I guess, to be able to have that opportunity to do that and to impact people in that way." One of his most impactful conversations aired earlier this month. Tommy Rivers Puzey is someone whom Mario wanted to have on the show since the morning shakeout began. He figured that they would be able to get together eventually, that it was "nothing that's pressing." Then in the summer of 2020, Tommy became gravely ill with a rare and aggressive form of lymphoma. He was placed in a medically-induced coma, endured multiple surgeries and treatments, and lost nearly half of his body weight. He's now in remission, regaining his strength, and living life to the fullest. This spring he completed the Boston Marathon in an incredible, inspiring display of heart and will. Mario was privileged to speak with him the next day. You can listen to their conversation here. Tommy's journey is a shining example of two things that Mario would like to remind everyone listening, to "be here now" and to "find something to be grateful for." Don't stress over something that happened last week, something that is coming up, or things you can't control. You may find, as Mario has, that "when I can be present, I can also have a lot of gratitude for who I am with, what it is that I'm able to do, and I can also just zoom out and be like, 'it's not all that bad.'" The morning shakeout website is the most central place to go for everything that Mario is doing, and you can also follow him on Instagram. To hear his original Running for Real episode from June 2017, you can go here. Thank you to UCAN for sponsoring RUNNING REUNION! UCAN uses a one-of-a-kind carbohydrate to provide a steady release of glucose over several hours that's easy on your stomach and doesn't cause a sugar crash. It comes in powders, bars, and gels, and they actually taste good! Their gel, UCAN Edge, was voted by Runner's World as one of the best foods to eat during a run. Tina has been a fan of UCAN for years and uses it exclusively for fueling when she's training and racing. Go here and use code TINAUCAN for 20% off your order! Thanks for listening! We know there are so many podcasts you could listen to, and we are honored you have chosen Running Reunion. If you appreciate the work that we do, here are a few things you can do to support us: Take a screenshot of the episode, and share it with your friends, family, and community on social media, especially if you feel that the topic will resonate with them. Be sure to tag us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram If you are struggling through something a guest mentions, chances are others are too, and you will help them feel less alone. Leave an honest review on iTunes or your favorite podcast player. Your ratings and reviews will really help us grow and reach new people. Not sure how to leave a review or subscribe? You can find out here. "Thank you" to Mario. We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.


