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Excess Returns
Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.
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Oct 19, 2025 • 1h 2min
The Bear Stearns Moment | Ben Hunt on How Private Credit Unravels
Ben Hunt, founder of Epsilon Theory and Persean, dives into the hidden perils of private credit and its alarming parallels to the shadow banking system that sparked the 2008 crisis. He likens financial betrayals to Tessio from The Godfather, highlighting how broken trust can trigger systemic crises. The discussion reveals risks tied to opacity and hidden leverage, emphasizing how small defaults can cascade into larger issues. Ben also introduces innovative narrative-tracking tools that offer real-time insights into market dynamics and evolving investor behavior.

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Oct 17, 2025 • 55min
The Case That We Are in the Early Stages of an AI Bull Market | Gene Munster and Doug Clinton
Gene Munster, a veteran tech investor, and Doug Clinton, founder of Intelligent Alpha, dive into AI's booming potential. They discuss why AI is in the early stages of a bull market and its transformative effects on jobs and markets. Topics include the impact of AI on corporate profitability, Doug's unique framework for future job roles, and the advantages of AI in portfolio management. They also explore competing AI model providers, energy considerations for AI growth, and the long-term prospects for tech giants like Apple and Tesla.

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Oct 16, 2025 • 1h 5min
Buffett, Sun Tzu and the Ancient Art of Risk Taking | Tobias Carlisle
Tobias Carlisle, founder of Acquirers Fund and author of The Acquirer's Multiple, delves into the rich interplay between investing and the timeless strategies of Sun Tzu. He highlights how Buffett’s acquisitions, like General Re and his massive stake in Apple, exemplify victory without conflict. The discussion reveals key concepts like via negativa—succeeding by avoiding mistakes—and the importance of temperament over intellect. Carlisle also emphasizes simplicity in investing, the merit of patience, and Buffett's strategic approach to the Japanese market.

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Oct 15, 2025 • 59min
Timeless Lessons from a Trend Following Legend | Jerry Parker
Jerry Parker, a veteran trend-following investor and original Turtle Trader, shares insights from his extensive trading career. He discusses the evolution from short-term to long-term trend systems and how psychology plays a crucial role in trading success. Jerry emphasizes the importance of diversification across markets, including crypto, to create robust strategies. He also highlights the significance of risk management and why trend following is essential for a balanced portfolio, offering timeless wisdom on embracing discomfort in investing.

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Oct 13, 2025 • 59min
The 100 Year Thinkers | Chris Mayer and Robert Hagstrom on Finding the Next Great Compounders
Robert G. Hagstrom, CIO of Equity Compass and author, teams up with Chris Mayer, investor and founder of Woodlock House Family Capital, to explore the nuances of long-term investing. They discuss the risks of concentrated portfolios and why exclusionary rules are vital. The duo also analyzes mega-cap tech companies' chances of becoming 100-baggers and critiques modern private equity. They emphasize the importance of economic fundamentals in navigating volatility and argue for redefined success metrics beyond just beating benchmarks.

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Oct 11, 2025 • 1h 2min
Investing in a Debasement Regime | Warren Pies
Warren Pies, founder of 314 Research and macro strategist, delves into the implications of a 'debasement regime' for investors. He explains the shift in focus from protecting principal to safeguarding purchasing power. Warren discusses the role of fiscal policy in driving this change and the current labor market's troubling dynamics. He addresses the potential for a bull market in the S&P 500 and the significance of gold in this climate. The conversation also covers portfolio strategies beyond traditional models and the future of AI in shaping the economy.

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Oct 9, 2025 • 1h 8min
The Four Pillars of Macro - And What They Say About This Market | Andy Constan
Andy Constan, a macro investor and founder of Damped Spring, shares insights drawn from his experiences at Bridgewater and Brevan Howard. He unveils his Four-Pillar Framework, discussing the interplay of growth, inflation, risk premia, and market flows. Andy elaborates on the impact of the AI-driven CapEx boom and the economic effects of tariffs, emphasizing the Fed's independence and the uncertainty in the labor market. He highlights the significance of probabilistic thinking for macro portfolios and the dynamics of corporate buybacks in shaping market direction.

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Oct 9, 2025 • 1h 3min
What a Global Regime Change Means for Investors | Julian Brigden
Julian Brigden, co-founder of MI2 Partners and macro strategist, shares insights on today's volatile market. He argues we're in a once-in-a-generation macro opportunity due to policy shifts and dollar dynamics. Brigden emphasizes the need for tactical risk management and highlights the benefits of international assets over U.S. ones. He discusses inflation dynamics, the unusual hiring patterns, and how AI's impact on the job market will unfold more slowly than expected. He cautions against relying on bonds and explains the risks of an overly concentrated U.S. market.

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Oct 8, 2025 • 52min
Big Rally. First Sell Signal Since April | Katie Stockton on What the Charts Say Could Come Next
Katie Stockton, founder and managing partner of Fairlead Strategies, shares her expertise in technical analysis. She decodes the S&P 500's current strong uptrend and discusses new DeMark sell signals, indicating potential market consolidation. Katie emphasizes selectivity in investing, particularly in healthcare and utilities, while analyzing the implications of seasonality and market breadth. She also explores trends in gold, oil, Treasury yields, and the evolving correlation between bonds and equities, offering valuable insights for navigating year-end investments.

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Oct 6, 2025 • 55min
Electricity Is the New Oil | Rob Thummel on the Energy Opportunity from the AI Boom
Rob Thummel, a senior investment professional at Tortoise Capital with decades of energy expertise, discusses why electricity is becoming the new oil. He highlights how AI is driving unprecedented electricity demand, predicting a future need equivalent to adding three Japan-sized energy capacities by 2050. Thummel explores the roles of natural gas, renewables, and the resurgence of nuclear energy. He also shares insights on energy infrastructure's stability and why it's a promising area for investors amid today's shifting energy landscape.


