Verse Talks

00:23 - Welcome Harvey Rayner and Tabor Robak01:40 - Human Resources launch and mint-out04:44 - Tabor's thoughts post-mint07:00 - Organic growth, communication and momentum building09:00 - First reactions: risk, confusion and conceptual clarity11:00 - Roleplay, identity and embodying PFPs13:00 - Timing, AI and why the project works now15:00 - The state of PFP culture and shifting expectations17:00 - Market dynamics and collecting behaviour19:00 - Collecting as belief in the artist, not just the asset21:00 - Risk, politics and performing identity online23:00 - Narrative construction and PFPs as creative tools 28:00 - Clowns, anti-status and rejecting “cool” aesthetics33:00 - Mr Happy and corporate ideology34:30 - What's next for Human Resources?35:00 - Tabcorp as an art company and long-term vision37:00 - Expansion, tools and the limits of the ecosystem39:00 - Gender, identity and ethical boundaries42:00 - Harvey on ChatFUKR, PFP fatigue and lessons learned45:00 - Community management, responsibility and burnout47:00 - New collectors and shifting audience dynamics49:00 - Phase two and sustaining long-term value51:00 - Glitches, clones and technical refinement53:00 - Subjective rarity, provenance and long-term meaning56:00 - Maintaining momentum58:00 - Balancing engagement with artistic practice01:00:00 - Institutional context and gallery reception01:01:50 - Harvey on Art Basel Hong Kong and physical work 01:04:30 - Translating digital practice into physical space01:07:00 - Presentation, scale and audience perception01:09:30 - Series mechanics and live minting 01:10:55 - Focusing on accessible art for a more traditional collector base 01:15:40 - The power of the modern print process 01:19:15 - Finding positivity amid market swings 01:22:55 - Social media and the politics of art  https://x.com/harvey_rayner https://x.com/taborrobak https://www.taborrobak.com https://rayner.art

00:20 - Welcome Abigail Miller and Micol01:07 - Micol’s journey into digital art and NFTs02:20 - From corporate to crypto art04:12 - Expectations and burnout05:26 - Abigail’s background06:26 - The Fulbright program, Russia and cultural diplomacy 09:32 - Crypto roots and art school11:07 - Space struggles and growth14:25 - Echo chamber and reset18:46 - Financialization vs. experimentation21:28 - Changes in identity, fame and cultural experience23:54 - Art Basel Miami and Zero10 27:11 - The missing middle ground for artists30:53 - Avant Arte operations36:01 - Artists, curators and different value propositions40:41 - Industry challenges behind the scenes 41:33 - Vertical’s hard lessons45:10 - Building in public45:36 - Feeling on the periphery of the community47:46 - Women going quiet49:18 - Social media burnout56:09 - Beyond Twitter, IRLs and mailing lists 58:09 - Why female artists tend to be under represented  01:06:05 - Bro culture and access01:10:24 - Sustainability and long-term thinking 01:12:37 - Women supporting women01:22:03 - Checks, balances and ensuring growth https://x.com/micolmicolmicol https://x.com/proofofgailhttps://x.com/avant_arte

00:24 - Verse Talks returns02:55 - The state of affairs in digital art04:40 - Launching new work, market cycles and algorithm whiplash07:56 - Focusing on the internet as a canvas 09:15 - The difficulty in bridging crypto and wider internet culture 16:15 - Where are all the new artists post Art Basel's success? 17:55 - Crypto liquidity and its impact on the digital art market  20:34 - Building a diversified practice 22:35 - Has there been a shift in Jack's audience post Art Basel Miami?28:40 - Over-indexing on institutions, the same names and public fatigue31:27 - What actually changed after Art Basel Miami?35:57 - Moving beyond Crypto Twitter 37:20 - Parallels between institutions interacting with crypto art and BTC's adoption by TradFi 42:09 - The benefit of releasing work into a quiet market 45:45 - Is 2020–21 Ethereum culture dying?49:53 - The SILK model: global events, Eastern markets and physical-first collabs52:48 - Jack Butcher at Art Basel Hong Kong01:00:28 - Batsoupyum, cabals and treating money as meaning01:03:55 - An argument for looking outside the echo chamber  01:06:41 - NFT aesthetics and the BAYC era01:07:21 - Crypto art vs. art on the blockchain01:08:13 - Node’s opening01:10:42 - SuperRare's new exhibition, "We Have Digital Art At Home"01:12:01 - Why Art Basel is so hard: costs and risks01:13:33 - Bridging to the traditional art world and expanding beyond our bubble01:17:24 - Martín Bruce's GEOCITIES auction01:20:23 - Fresh blood, new energy and what’s next https://x.com/pocobellihttps://x.com/jackbutcher https://x.com/DnoTAO https://silkarthouse.com/

00:26 - Welcome (back) Tabor Robak01:40 - Broken Printer and Tabcorp Labs03:25 - The Tabcorp universe05:25 - Human Resources and exploring PFP as a genre 11:10 - A critique of corporate culture12:45 - The process behind Human Resources 16:05 - Traits and rarity  19:00 - Are we the PFPs?   19:57  - Community and the future of Tabcorp 21:50 - Between the traditional and web3 art worlds 25:50 - Determining the number of traits 29:07 - The relationship between Human Resources and Tabcorp 31:05 - Building the network 36:09 - Addressing diversity and conceptual challenges41:36 - Exploring release mechanics and mint allocations 47:31 - How NFTs have fed into Tabor's broader practice51:49 - What drew Tabor to NFTs as a medium  55:25 - Challenges and perceptions in the art world 58:20 - Online fatigue and a move back towards IRL59:49 - Indexing Human Resources 01:03:34 - The simulation as a medium 01:06:20 - Tabcorp Labs artwork updates 01:08:25 - Keeping pace with technological change 01:10:22 - Art as a brand and the studio as a factory  01:13:47 - The social dimension of an artwork https://www.taborrobak.com https://x.com/taborrobakHuman Resources: https://verse.works/series/human-resources 

01:18 - Welcome Rhea Myers01:26 - Rhea's journey into art and technology02:08 - Art school experiences and early career07:56 - An anthropological approach to the tech industry10:59 - An artistic approach to programming17:43 - Blockchain and cultural observations24:39 - Early days of blockchain and crypto art37:47 - TORCHED H34R7S42:05 - Challenges in works that depend on audience participation44:29 - Cryptocurrency and cultural misunderstandings46:19 - Blockchain's artistic and conceptual impact52:17 - Early days of Ethereum and smart contracts01:01:27 - Art and blockchain: a symbiotic relationship01:09:51 - The evolution of crypto art and NFTs01:12:08 - The Fractionalized Phallus and gender identity01:19:57 - Navigating the art and crypto worlds01:22:31 - Reflections on the artistic origins of NFTs01:24:03 - Gallery collaborations and curatorial insights 01:31:20 - Emotional depth, authorship, and personal resonance 01:34:44 - Introducing Koala Noosphere01:40:02 - The concept of ownership in NFTs01:52:41 - Future projects and final thoughts

00:26 - Welcome Phil Mohun01:44 - The vision behind Node Foundation03:23 - Why Palo Alto?04:05 - The importance of Silicon Valley06:14 - The role of Node in the art community15:09 - Node's programming and seasonal approach19:02 - Focus on presentation, education, and preservation25:18 - CryptoPunks and ERC standards26:36 - Yuga's contribution and collection bids28:06 - Creating cultural impact and a distinct brand31:20 - Node's vision and nonprofit model34:39 - Sustaining Node and community support43:34 - The importance of physical and digital spaceshttps://x.com/philmohun https://x.com/nodefnd?s=21&t=Y0qIYiBAAsy4ea-t-FfRQw https://nodefoundation.com/

01:44 - Welcome Terence Broad02:41 - Terry's early artistic journey 07:16 - Transition to creative computing 14:03 - Exploring AI and generative art 15:45 - DeepDream and AI visual understanding 19:42 - Blade Runner—Autoencoded25:56 - From Whitney to worldwide 34:12 - Balancing an art and tech career 34:43 - Pursuing a PhD and creative AI 36:09 - Developing (un)stable equilibrium 36:59 - Challenges and breakthroughs 42:36 - Recognition and impact of (un)stable equilibrium 44:08 - PhD experience and artistic practice 50:27 - AI art and data ethics 52:15 - NFTs and connecting with collectors 55:27 - Future directions and inspirations 01:03:38 - Network bending, Teratome and other works 01:09:32 - How AI has shifted perceptions around creativity https://terencebroad.com  Terence Broad on X https://verse.works/exhibitions/unstable-equilibrium

00:22 - Welcome Matt Medved 04:34 The Evolution of Media and Culture06:36 The Birth of NFT Now and Its Mission08:52 The Gateway: Bridging Traditional and Digital Art10:42 The Shift to Now Media15:32 Art Basel and the Digital Art Council21:51 Meeting the market where it is and growing understanding 24:33 Reflections on Art Basel and Digital Art26:46 The Future of Digital Art in Traditional Spaces29:34 Interactive and Immersive Digital Art33:00 - Highlights and Reflections from the fair41:02 - Live on the ground inside zero 10https://nowmedia.co Matt Medved: https://x.com/mattmedved Now Media: https://x.com/nowmedia 

01:42 - Welcome Laurie Simmons 04:17 - Early inspiration, New York and formative travel 07:25 - Artistic beginnings and creative identity 12:00 - Politics, rebellion and activism    14:57 - Navigating gender norms and early works  21:45 - AI and artistic evolution 27:55 - Photography and artistic identity 30:26 - Connections and collaborations 32:32 - Meeting kindred spirits in the art world 33:08 - Defining movements and appropriation 35:05 - Rejecting the previous generation’s approach37:14 - Navigating the art world and personal identity 40:26 - Embracing NFTs and digital art  43:39 - Thinking about the space as a separate art world 47:53 - What causes the stigma around NFTs and AI among legacy artists  50:24 - The changing landscape of the art world 54:40 - Looking forward towards the future Laurie Simmons: https://x.com/simmonslaurie Black & White: https://www.alminerech.com/exhibitions/11587-laurie-simmons-black-white 

01:15 - Welcome Refik Anadol02:07 - Blade Runner, media architecture and early inspirations    03:34 - Defining data painting04:45 - The concept of data as pigment07:44 - Fusing art and architecture 10:24 - Viral success and public art13:49 - Collaborations and technological innovation 16:30 - Defining a medium through a holistic approach 21:27- Building the datasets and creating positive impact 25:10 - Galleries, collectors and shifting understandings 29:10 - Avoiding the hype and staying focused 31:19 - Collaborating with Messi        38:03 - Public perception and criticism 45:08 - Early blockchain exploration47:25 - Unsupervised at MoMA 48:34 - Balancing physical and digital art49:41 - Challenges and opportunities in web354:27 - The vision behind Dataland 01:00:02 - Thinking in "living systems"01:03:09 - The role of technology in art 01:07:18 - Art as a celebration of humanity  01:11:59 - Collaborating with Demis Hassabis and Jensen Huang  01:20:44 - Future plans and collaborations Refik Anadol: https://x.com/refikanadol https://dataland.art/Dataland Residency Program: https://dataland.art/blog/introducing-the-dataland-ai-artist-residency