

The Pursuit of Love - By Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth (Directors at Why Bravo)
Hosted By: Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth (Directors at Why Bravo)
The Pursuit of Love is a podcast for those who believe business should be built on purpose. Join Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth as they dive into the inner world of founders, leaders, and creators who are turning what they love into how they lead. If you're ready to build a business that means something, start here.
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Jul 17, 2025 • 1h 46min
97 - "Do We Treat AI Like God" - with Kenneth Crowther
This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, we sit down with former Pod Regular Dr Difff (Kenneth Crowther) to chat about humanity’s love-hate relationship with AI and why it’s not the god some people think it is.Kenneth brings his wit and wisdom to a big conversation about tech’s potential, its pitfalls, and the danger of letting it replace what really matters.From how AI shapes identity to why real connection still wins every time, this one’s a reminder to use the tools without losing yourself.If you’ve ever caught yourself wondering if we’re getting it all backwards, you’ll want to hear this.Podcast brought to you by Why BravoHosts: Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth.

Jul 10, 2025 • 44min
96 - "What Happens When You Lose Your Friends Over Business" - with Steve and Darc
This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, Steve and Darc get real about what happens when business and friendships collide.Diving in on how chasing your goals can grow you as a person but sometimes cost you relationships you thought would last.From finding joy in your work to staying focused on what actually matters, this one’s equal parts honest and hopeful.Steve and Darc dig into the sting of early failures, the fear of what your mates think, and why resilience can lead to deeper, more meaningful connections down the line.If you’ve ever felt torn between ambition and belonging, this one’s worth a listen.Podcast brought to you by Why BravoHosts: Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth.

Jul 3, 2025 • 50min
95 - "Has Capitalism Gone Too Far?" with Steve & Darc
This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, Steve and Darc dive into one of the heaviest convos they've had yet. From the Israel-Iran conflict to how capitalism might need a rebrand.Unpacking the deep-rooted tensions in the Middle East, why Jerusalem holds so much weight across multiple faiths and what global unrest really stirs up for us on a personal level.Then they shift gears into business and society, questioning if the relentless profit-chase is still the goal, or if it’s time we brought purpose, generosity, and real impact back into the mix.The lads dive into "How can we actually build a better culture?"From mandatory giving to rethinking leadership, this one’s raw, reflective, and packed with ideas that’ll get under your skin in the best way.Podcast brought to you by Why BravoHosts: Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth.

Jun 25, 2025 • 52min
94 - "Failure Is A Non-Negotiable Part Of Growth" with Nat Hodges
This week on the Pursuit of Love podcast, Nat Hodges joins us to pull back the curtain on the personal development space - less guru/sharman vibes and more real talk.He chats about the highs and lows of coaching, why vulnerability isn’t just for Instagram captions, and how failing is a non-negotiable part of growth.From leadership lessons to emotional intelligence, it’s a mix of wisdom, wit, and a few mic-drop moments.If you’ve ever rolled your eyes at cookie-cutter self-help advice, this one’s for you.Podcast brought to you by WhyBravoHosts: Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth.

Jun 18, 2025 • 1h 8min
93 - "Don't Let The Fear Of Judgement Kill Your Potential" - With ‘One Shot’ Ryder
🎙️ Episode 93 - 'One Shot' Ryder - aka Mitch SchoemakerIn this episode of the Pursuit of Love podcast, we sit down with pro wrestler ‘One Shot’ Ryder - who you might also know as Mitch Schoemaker, BDM with us here at Outbound and WhyBravo.For nearly four years, Mitch kept his wrestling career a secret. Why? Fear of judgment.We dive into how he pushed past that fear, why chasing a dream sometimes means being a little selfish, and how he went from hiding his passion to travelling the world doing what he loves.A raw, honest look at what it really takes to chase a dream - from Toowoomba to Tokyo and everywhere in between. This is the story of ‘One Shot’ Ryder.Podcast brought to you by WhyBravoHosts: Steve Claydon & Darcy J Smyth

Jun 13, 2025 • 41min
92 - "I Needed To Go To Rehab" with Steve Claydon & Darcy J Smyth
🎙 Episode 92 – The Return: Why We Vanished, What We Learned, and What’s NextWe’re back. After years of silence, The Pursuit of Love returns with a raw, honest, and deeply personal relaunch.In this episode, Steve Claydon opens up about the unexpected detour his life took through burnout, depression, and a 4-week stint in rehab. It’s a conversation about what happens when everything stops, and how sometimes the breakdown is the beginning of the breakthrough.We also unpack the why behind the podcast’s original vision and why that vision still burns bright today. If you've ever wondered how to build a life, a business, or a leadership style grounded in love, purpose, and truth—this season is for you.New episodes. Every week. No masks. No fluff. Just the real pursuit.Welcome back.Podcast brought to you by Why BravoHosts: Steve Claydon & Darcy J Smyth

Feb 16, 2024 • 51min
91 - "Money Gives You Options, Getting Sued Hurts!" - With Jordan Stupar (CEO of Stupar Enterprises)
"Taking the Leap: From High Paid Employee to Entrepreneur with Jordan Stupar"In this episode of 'The Bigger Game' podcast, we're joined by the seasoned sales veteran and visionary leader in Jordan Stupar, founder of Stupar Enterprises. Jordan shares his inspiring journey, detailing the bold transition from being a high-paid employee to embracing the path of entrepreneurship. Our conversation dives deep into the challenges and victories that come with forging your own path, including the unexpected twists like getting sued by industry giant Grant Cardone.Jordan doesn't hold back as he unfolds the story of starting a CRM technology business from scratch, revealing the hurdles, innovations, and the sheer determination it took to bring his vision to life. A highlight of our discussion is the innovative strategy of 'Cash Cards'—a groundbreaking method Jordan developed to generate paid leads, offering invaluable insights for sales professionals looking to elevate their game.But perhaps the most compelling part of Jordan's story is his candid share about the 900+ hard days before seeing the fruits of his labor. It's a raw, honest look at what it really takes to 'make it' in the competitive world of business and sales.Whether you're a seasoned sales leader, an aspiring entrepreneur, or somewhere in between, this episode is packed with practical wisdom, strategic insights, and the motivation needed to push through the challenges and seize your own bigger game. Don't miss this deep dive into the mind of one of the most innovative figures in the sales and tech space.This episode is brought to you by The Outbound Game. Looking to gamify your goals? Look no further than https://outbound.game

Dec 15, 2023 • 1h 17min
90 - "How To Grow A $40M Business" - With Ben Wright (Sales Leader & Entrepreneur)
In this episode Darcy J Smyth and Steve Claydon, the Cofounders of Outbound chat with Ben Wright, a serial entreprenuer and 2x Fast Growth company award winner to dive into what it truly takes to grow a $40M business and lead a high performing team.Here's a snippet of Ben's story:"I was that salesperson... the one who hit every target, was high on confidence and itching to be promoted. I got that promotion. Life got real. I never expected there would be such a difference between delivering sales results and leading a team.I got some help. Learnt fast and built a team that won Australian Fast Growth Company Awards 2 years in a row.Life changed from there. - 5 X Start Up's and thousand's of great people have grown under my leadership. - $0 - $40M Revenue in 7 years for my last business. - 100+ successful professional development programs delivered.My passion is infectious and I enjoy challenging those around me to grow to their potential. I'm now hired by Business and Sales Leaders to:- Build repeatable sales strategies that drive growth and guarantee a return on their investment.- Develop Sales Leaders to be not only great at sales, but get the best out of their teams.- Grow Teams who learn together and are accountable to deliver results.- Deliver Customer experiences that increase long-term CLV's and retention rates.- Balance EQ and IQ to increase employee retention.Ben also runs a great podcast for Sales Leaders documenting tactical 'how to' plays:Listen to Ben's podcast.This episode was brought to you by The Outbound Game.Learn how to gamify your goals and drive new sales activity with Outbound. (Now integrates with HubSpot, Pipedrive, Salesforce and many other tools).Visit https://outbound.game to learn more!

Jul 20, 2023 • 1h 12min
89 - "The Truth Behind Work, Family & Faith" - With Cory Rich (Fractional VP of Sales @ Apex Revenue)
How do you juggle your work, family and faith? Unravelling the Leadership Enigma with Cory Rich on The Bigger GameIn this thought-provoking episode of "The Bigger Game" podcast, hosted by Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth, founders of The Outbound Game (https://outbound.game), we are thrilled to welcome Cory Rich from Apex Revenue who has dedicated his career to helping individuals and organizations unlock their sales potential and challenge conventional wisdom.Join us as we delve into the heart of the leadership debate: Is it possible to truly balance your work, family and faith? Cory shares his unique perspective on the age-old question, drawing on his extensive experience as a sales consultant and mentor. Don't miss this fascinating discussion on the true nature of leadership and the power of a 'truth based' mindset, brought to you by the minds behind The Outbound Game.

Apr 28, 2023 • 55min
88 - "Is The Idea Of A "Born Leader" Just A Myth?" with Roderick Jefferson (Director at Roderick Jefferson LLC)
Born Leader or is that a myth? Unravelling the Leadership Enigma with Roderick Jefferson on The Bigger GameIn this thought-provoking episode of "The Bigger Game" podcast, hosted by Steve Claydon and Darcy J Smyth, founders of The Outbound Game (https://outbound.game), we are thrilled to welcome Roderick Jefferson, a world-renowned speaker, author, and founder of Roderick Jefferson & Associates LLC. Roderick has dedicated his career to helping individuals and organizations unlock their leadership potential and challenge conventional wisdom.Join us as we delve into the heart of the leadership debate: Are leaders born or made? Roderick shares his unique perspective on the age-old question, drawing on his extensive experience as a leadership consultant and mentor. Don't miss this fascinating discussion on the true nature of leadership and the power of growth mindset, brought to you by the minds behind The Outbound Game.


