Making Sense of Martech

Juan Mendoza + Jacqueline Freedman
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Aug 29, 2022 • 57min

#030 | The technology of attribution

A conversation with Praveen Das. In this episode, I'm joined by Praveen Das. Praveen is the co-founder and Chief Product Officer at Factors.ai, a B2B marketing attribution and analytics software company. Praveen has a long history in the analytics space, previously leading product at InMobi, a mobile advertising company. In this discussion, we unpack the technology of marketing attribution including the increasing importance of machine learning and artificial intelligence in the marketing analytics stack, how technology companies are addressing the changing tracking and privacy landscape and the value of attribution software. In this episode we talk about the hard problem of marketing attribution from the increasing importance of machine learning and artificial intelligence in the marketing analytics stack. How technology companies are addressing the changing context of tracking privacy and data collection, and also the value of attribution software. We further dive deeper into the highly complex topic, that is attribution. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. Listen on Apple, Spotify, Google, and everywhere else. You can find Praveen on LinkedIn.
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Aug 17, 2022 • 56min

#029 | Evolving automated marketing

A conversation with Anu Shukla. In this episode, I'm joined by Anu Shukla. Anu is a serial entrepreneur with over 20 years of high-tech industry experience having created a billion dollars of enterprise value from Martech startups. She is the Founder and CEO of RewardsPay Inc. and the Co-founder and Executive Chair of Botco.ai. Formerly, she was the Founder and CEO of Offerpal Media (aka Tapjoy, Inc. which was sold for $400 mm cash in Jan 2022), and she was the Founder and former CEO and Director of MyBuys Inc. (formerly Rubiconsoft) a venture-backed company acquired in 2011 for $200mm she started in 2002. Anu was the founder of Rubric, Inc one of the pioneers in Enterprise Marketing Automation 19 years ago, before the category existed. She is also a Venture Partner at Elevate.vc supporting and mentoring under-represented black, women, LatinX and other minority founders. Ms. Shukla served on the Board of Directors of Forum for Women Entrepreneurs and Executives, International Museum of Women (IMOW.org) and the Advisory Board for the Leavey School of Business, Santa Clara University. In this episode we talk about the wonderful world of marketing automation. Anu has seen the development of the marketing automation space for more than 20 years, building solutions and innovating right back in the 90's. We talk about the history of automated marketing, why Anu's all in on conversational AI, and where it's all heading. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. Listen on Apple, Spotify, Google, and everywhere else. You can find Anu on LinkedIn.
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Jul 28, 2022 • 1h 1min

#028 | Podcasting about podcasting

A conversation with Benjamin Shapiro and Phil Gamache. Benjamin is the founder of I Hear Everything and a prolific podcast host who oversees three big tent podcasts; The Martech Podcast, Voices of Search, and the Revenue Generator Podcast along with a number of bespoke audio projects. Benjamin is a media entrepreneur who started his journey with The Martech Podcast and has scaled to more than 2,000 published episodes achieving more than 2 million downloads. Phil is the co-founder of the Humans of Martech Podcast, a show that helps early-stage marketers to level up by discovering the constantly evolving world of marketing technology. It's a side project that Phil and his co-founder Jonathan Taylor manage alongside Phil's full-time work in lifecycle and growth marketing. Today we're talking about what it looks like to run a podcast in the Martech industry. Between Benjamin, Phil, and myself our approaches to content creation are as diverse as they are interesting. We discuss what it takes to break into podcasting, how it's done well and how it's shaped our perspective on the industry. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. You can find Benjamin on LinkedIn and I Hear Everything You can find Phil on LinkedIn, Twitter, and the Humans of Martech Podcast.
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Jul 7, 2022 • 48min

#027 | The revenue bubble

A conversation with Darrell Alfonso. Darrell is an award-winning marketer and Martech professional. He has consulted for several Fortune 500 companies including General Electric and Abbott Laboratories and currently leads marketing operations at Amazon Web Services where he helps empower thousands of marketers to build world-class customer experiences. He was named one of the top Martech Marketers to Follow in 2020, won the Fearless Marketer award in 2018, is a 2X Marketo Champion, and is a certified Salesforce Administrator. Darrell is a frequent speaker at Martech events, and regularly posts thought leadership content on LinkedIn and Twitter. Darrell is also the author of a newly announced book - The Martech Handbook: Build a Technology Stack to Attract and Retain Customers. We talk about the state of marketing operations, the role of revenue operations in the marketing discipline, and Darrell's experience leading large-scale marketing operations for some of the most important companies in the world. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. You can find Darrel on LinkedIn and Twitter Pre-order Darrell's new book here
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Jun 20, 2022 • 52min

#026 | The creativity crisis

A conversation with Cydney Sinclair. Today I'm joined by Cydney Sinclair. Cydney is the creative director at HBO max where she has built and led diverse teams of storytellers and designers to launch the streaming service. Cydney previously served as the Art director for Apple as one of the founding members of the Apple Music Brand and Marketing Design team where she lead global content and marketing initiatives across Apple TV, Apple Books, Podcasts, and Gift Cards including a relaunch of the Apple app store. Cydney also serves as an Associate Board Member for the +ME Project and as a Mentor for the T. Howard Foundation and ADP list. If there's anyone in the marketing technology industry who knows how to inspire creativity in some of the world's leading brands it's Cydney. Today we're talking about just that, the crisis of creativity in the world of marketing technology - why and how marketers in brands lack the ability to bring novel ideas to market, the great "blanding" and how Cydney thinks about the creative process in the enterprise. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. You can find Cydney on LinkedIn
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Jun 10, 2022 • 46min

#025 | The state of SEO

A conversation with Vahe Arabian and Grant Shankster. In this episode, I'm joined by Vahe Arabian and Grant Shankster. Both SEO (search engine optimisation) experts in their own right. Vahe is the founder of the state of digital publishing which is a membership platform and consultancy which helps publishers grow digital media properties. Grant is an SEO and PPC expert at The Various Artists working in a regionally focused agency based in Queensland Australia. Grant has worked across a number of industries including tourism but in recent years has focused his work on supporting local businesses with digital publishing and SEO capabilities. In this episode, we talk about the state of SEO in the industry, how experts approach the discipline, and its role in the digital economy Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. You can find Vahe Arabian at State of Digital Publishing You can find Grant Shankster at We Are Eva
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Apr 28, 2022 • 33min

#024 | Martech Day

A conversation with Frans Riemersma. In this episode, I'm joined by Frans Riemersma. He's the founder of Martech Tribe a Europe-based advisory and research firm that tracks the developments of the marketing technology industry and builds tools for senior leaders to better evaluate and manage their investments. Frans has also contributed to digital transformation training as a lecturer at Nyenrode Business University and spent close to a decade working with BrandMaker, a global marketing operations platform across R&D, innovation, and customer success. We talk about the upcoming Martech Day event, the first event of its kind that both Frans and Scott Brinker have announced where they are will be unveiling the much anticipated 2022 global Martech landscape, the latest research into the category, and presenting the annual "Stackies" awards which showcase how companies of all shapes and sizes visually present their marketing technology stacks in their business. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. You can find Frans Riemersma on LinkedIn and Martech Tribe.
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Apr 11, 2022 • 1h 1min

#023 | The history of media disruption

In this episode, I'm joined by Tim Burrowes. He's the former founder of Mumbrella, one of the most significant media organizations servicing the marketing and media industries in Australia. Tim's also the founder of the recently launched Unmade, a popular newsletter that explores topics centered on technology and media. It's based on his first book of the same title, Media Unmade surveying more than a decade of technology disruption in media, publishing and advertising. Tim has a unique perspective on how technology has changed the landscape of media as he's been in the room seeing the decisions play out as leaders adapt to a changing environment of content consumption and consumer change. In this episode, we talk about just that, what exactly did the last decade look like throughout this change, why Tim has pivoted to newsletters and what is driving media innovation today. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. You can find Tim Burrowes on LinkedIn and at https://www.unmade.media/
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Mar 27, 2022 • 41min

#022 | The state of Martech education

In this episode, I'm joined by Carlos Doughty. Carlos is the CEO and founder of the Martech Alliance, a global Martech education firm based in the UK. He's was the 2020 Marketing Technology Business Leader of the Year in the United Kingdom and is an international speaker in the marketing technology industry. The Martech Alliance has trained companies like TikTok, McKinsey, and Facebook in the various disciplines of Martech through their online courses, training events, book clubs, and their online community. When I first met Carlos we talked about his vision for education in marketing technology, as multivariate, continuous, and community-centric. Carlos' perspective on education challenges some of the norms around how the marketing technology industry approaches education in the industry and is one of the most holistic providers in the space. In this episode, we talk about how and why Carlos founded The Martech Alliance, his philosophy on Martech education, and where he sees the future of training happening in this space. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. You can find Carlos Doughty on LinkedIn and at https://www.martechalliance.com/
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Mar 3, 2022 • 46min

#021 | Understanding open data

In this episode, I'm joined by Kevin Tate. Kevin is the Chief Revenue Officer of Clearbit, a B2B data enrichment, activation, and intelligence company. Clearbit is an interesting player in the data space in how they collect business data from over 200 sources to create over 350 million business profiles which then sales and marketers can tap into to enrich their existing segmentation and do things like prospecting and lead generation. Clearbit is a data collection company that is evolving into a data activation company with the recent announcement of their data activation platform that works as an integration layer between Clearbit's data profiles and marketing and sales tools like CRMs, MAPs, and CDPs. Kevin has worked across the B2B SaaS space serving in multiple revenue and marketing executive roles. In this episode, we're talking about where Clearbit fits into the data privacy ecosystem, the evolution to data activation, and how brands leverage open data sources to drive marketing and sales. Go here for show notes, links, and resources. Subscribe to The Martech Weekly here. Follow Juan Mendoza on LinkedIn and Twitter. You can find Kevin Tate on LinkedIn and at clearbit.com

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