

Always Be Testing
Tye DeGrange
Always Be Testing explores the experiments, insights, and growth stories shaping the future of affiliate and partner marketing in B2B SaaS. Hosted by industry veterans, the show dives deep into real-world lessons from the people driving measurable impact at companies like Google, HubSpot, Ramp, Webflow, G2, and beyond.
Each episode uncovers what happens when today's most innovative marketers challenge assumptions, run smarter experiments, and build programs that scale revenue through meaningful partnerships. If you’re in affiliate, partnerships, or SaaS growth — this is your front-row seat to how the best do it (and what they’ve learned along the way
Each episode uncovers what happens when today's most innovative marketers challenge assumptions, run smarter experiments, and build programs that scale revenue through meaningful partnerships. If you’re in affiliate, partnerships, or SaaS growth — this is your front-row seat to how the best do it (and what they’ve learned along the way
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Mar 5, 2024 • 43min
#30 Analytics, Sports, Business Growth, Scott Jablonski, Business Strategy Consultant | Advisor & Investor, 77Analytics
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Scott JablonskiHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Introduction00:46 Scott Jablonski: Guest Intro01:14 NBA: Exciting Challenges03:18 From Fan to Pro: Insights05:02 Marketing: NBA vs. NFL06:46 Kobe's Global Influence08:08 Dynamics: NBA and NHL10:23 Sports Business: Economics13:17 Harvard: Diversity in Decisions16:24 VC Trends: Interest Impacts20:46 Tech Evolution: AI Ventures30:06 Paradox of Choice: Decision Paralysis

Feb 27, 2024 • 49min
#29 High-Performance Ad Creative & Video Ads for DTC EComm Brands, Matt Gattozzi, Founder of Goodo Studios
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Matthew GattozziHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Introduction00:46 E-commerce Growth Excitement01:54 Understanding Customer Motivations03:25 Strategy: Keep It Simple04:31 Crafting Unique Content06:22 Exploring Diverse Ad Formats08:07 Nuances in Ad Creation10:04 Insights for Effective Ads12:10 Avoiding Awareness Bias15:15 Authentic Testimonials Gathered20:05 Testing Ads' Importance25:44 Ad Performance: Framing Techniques

Feb 20, 2024 • 35min
#28 Email and SMS for DTC EComm Subscription, Bobby Callaghan, CEO & Founder of Retentio
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Bobby CallaghanHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Introduction00:45 Excitement for email and SMS01:36 Retention marketing deep dive03:16 Right message, right time focus04:56 Learning from past mistakes06:06 Art and science of email marketing08:07 Benefits of being a generalist10:36 Subscription model advantages13:26 Agency insights and future plans17:04 Effective email subject strategies20:27 Organic marketing approaches25:10 Challenges of email attribution

Feb 13, 2024 • 46min
#27 Aligning Focus & User Experience (UX) for Marketers, Tamara Adlin, President, Adlin, Inc.
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Tamara AdlinHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:00 Introduction 01:07 Tamara Adlin, expert in user experience, introduced02:00 Defining affiliate marketing and performance marketing03:12 Importance of user experience in affiliate marketing04:49 Benefits and challenges of affiliate marketing06:06 UX team's struggle with marketing complexity07:46 Marketing's role in attracting customers to product09:27 Convergence of departments for better alignment11:10 Challenges of executive misalignment in decision-making12:36 Balancing new customer acquisition and long-term value14:01 Lack of alignment and support for initiatives15:10 Involving UX professionals earlier in product design16:01 UX professionals helping executives make informed decisions

Feb 6, 2024 • 52min
#26 B2B SaaS Growth & The DTC EComm Connector, Chase Mohseni, CMO, HeatMap
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Chase MohseniHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Introduction to Always Be Testing podcast02:05 Exploring the concept of a "vibe check"06:05 Trusting gut instincts in decision-making07:50 Dive into surround sound marketing strategies11:09 Transition from paid marketing to SaaS brand15:25 Importance of frameworks and personal connections19:13 Impactful frameworks and the growth loop concept23:40 Importance of customer feedback and understanding needs27:31 Building enduring businesses and avoiding quick fixes30:49 Goals for Heatmap: best CRO software34:41 Importance of being customer-centric and learning machine40:02 Educating on CRO impact and predictions for 2024

Jan 30, 2024 • 35min
#25 Picking Winners: From Sales to Leading Revenue Teams, Lauren Nemeth, Chief Revenue Officer, Twilio
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Lauren NemethHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Welcoming Lauren Nemeth00:46 Media perceptions 01:44 Explaining Twilio's business03:05 Twilio's diverse clientele04:44 Shift to sales career06:15 Ad industry challenges08:15 Future trends predicted10:39 Operational rigor emphasized12:26 Sales skills importance16:00 Acquisitions and feedback20:29 Leadership and mentorship25:06 AI in marketing strategies30:00 Exploring Nextdoor's Potential34:11 Closing: personal stories

Jan 23, 2024 • 35min
#24 Affiliate Marketing Education, Laura Press, Head of Affiliate and Partnerships Education, Impact
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Laura PressHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Introduction00:48 Laura Press introduction01:23 Laura's industry insights02:33 PXA's educational goals04:27 Career paths explored06:07 Matching strengths to roles08:03 Accessible education importance10:22 Digital marketing evolution13:08 Course creation insights17:51 New publisher models23:41 Marketing post-pandemic29:24 Personal stories shared

Jan 16, 2024 • 39min
#23 Fraud Protection in Affiliate Marketing, Kalen Bushe, VP Growth, TrafficGuard
Guiding you through the world of growth, performance marketing, and partner marketing.We sit down with growth and marketing leaders to share tests and lessons learned in business and life.Host: Tye DeGrangeGuest: Kalen BusheHype man & Announcer: John PotitoTimestamps:00:06 Meet the Hosts00:47 Sales Background Insights01:44 B2B SaaS Growth Tips03:30 Marketing Benefits from Sales04:52 Focus on TrafficGuard06:31 Challenges in Ad Fraud08:36 User Journey Analysis10:55 Affiliate Marketing Transparency13:22 Cookie Stuffing Insights16:38 Lead Generation Fraud Issues22:08 Verifying Conversions with TrafficGuard30:04 Rugby Love and Connections

Jan 9, 2024 • 44min
#22 Navigating the Performance Marketing Agency Maze with David Rodnitzky, Founder, Agentic Shift and 3Q Digital
Tye interviews David Rodnitzky about his evolution in performance marketing, growing a successful marketing agency, building and buying back a business, memorable adventures with family, challenges and opportunities in the marketing landscape, and book recommendations.

Dec 19, 2023 • 50min
#21 Critical KPIs for DTC ECommerce Brands to Monitor, Jon Blair, Founder, Free to Grow CFO
Founder of Free to Grow CFO, Jon Blair, discusses the role of finance in scaling DTC brands, negotiating funding with Mark Cuban, collaboration between finance and marketing, measuring metrics for financial health, and personal interests in music.


