Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness

Kim & Penn Holderness
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Mar 31, 2026 • 52min

Finding Joy Anyway with Kate Bowler

Kate Bowler, New York Times bestselling author and Duke divinity professor who studies stories of success and suffering. She reflects on living with stage IV cancer and defines “the ache.” The conversation explores the difference between happiness and surprise-filled joy. They share how laughter and unexpected moments appear even in hospitals and at deathbeds. Practical ways to invite more joy into ordinary days are discussed.
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Mar 24, 2026 • 41min

Is This 50? (Happy Birthday, Kim!)

A 50th birthday celebration that blends gratitude, panic, and honest questions about aging. Surprise recorded messages from wiser friends add warmth and perspective. Reflections on expectations versus reality include dance classes, TikTok, and the Road to 50 goals. Listeners share what they thought they'd know by 50, and the episode closes with small celebrations and big reminders about love.
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Mar 17, 2026 • 53min

Make Sleep Suck Less with Dr. Chris Allen

Dr. Christopher J. Allen (Sleep Dr. Chris), double board-certified in sleep medicine and pediatric neurology, helps decode why sleep shifts in midlife. He tackles circadian vs sleep drive, melatonin timing, and when to see a sleep specialist. The conversation covers obstructive sleep apnea across ages, ADHD-related sleep issues, debunking TikTok hacks, and practical bedroom tips for better rest.
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Mar 10, 2026 • 58min

The Emotional Side of ADHD with Dr. Tamara Rosier (Part 2)

Dr. Tamara Rosier, licensed counselor and ADHD expert who explains the emotional side of ADHD. She unpacks why feelings feel huge, uses memorable metaphors like the swimming pool and three-legged race, and explores family dynamics, parenting strategies, rejection sensitivity, perfectionism, and ways to widen emotional tolerance.
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Mar 3, 2026 • 46min

Surprise... Kim Has ADHD (Part 1)

A candid reveal about a late-in-life ADHD diagnosis and the messy road to admitting it. They recount childhood signs, masking, perfectionism, and how symptoms overlapped with perimenopause. Time blindness, hyperfocus, travel mishaps, and emotional flooding come up as concrete examples. Supportive reframing turns doubts into strengths, and listener stories echo the same surprises.
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Feb 24, 2026 • 50min

Bridging the Political Divide with Roy Cooper

Roy Cooper, former North Carolina governor and long-serving state official focused on health care and bipartisan governance. He talks about bridging political divides with empathy. He recalls bipartisan wins like Medicaid expansion. He reflects on faith shaping public service and urges face-to-face community over social media.
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Feb 17, 2026 • 54min

When You Speak Different Love Languages with Dr. Gary Chapman

Dr. Gary Chapman, relationship counselor and author of The Five Love Languages, explains why love can be missed when partners speak different languages. He breaks down the five love languages, explores dialects and personality effects, discusses shifting needs across life seasons, and introduces the five apology languages. Short, practical conversation about making love feel like love.
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Feb 10, 2026 • 59min

Creating Friendships That Matter with Jennifer Wallace

Jennifer Wallace, bestselling author and founder of the Mattering Institute, explores why feeling seen and needed matters in midlife. She discusses loneliness, how friendships shift with life changes, the pitfalls of perfectionism, and simple practices to deepen connections. Short, honest actions often mean more than grand gestures.
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Feb 3, 2026 • 40min

This Is Who We Are

They sit with grief after a violent weekend and describe how it unsettled them. They explain a hopeful post about monks that sparked backlash and why criticism to 'stick to comedy' hurt. They recount writing then shelving a protest parody and how they weigh creative choices for safety and impact. They discuss laughter, compassion, and choosing to keep making joy while standing with people in need.
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Jan 27, 2026 • 43min

If You Need A Laugh Right Now

They riff on snow day chaos and North Carolina winter warnings with playful ‘snorm’ talk. They list tiny comforts—slow-motion dogs, cookie cakes bought for no reason, glitter and snacks—that spark joy. Penn leans into the dancing-bear role to cheer up Kim, and they reflect on balancing laughter with heavy news and why humor can feel like survival.

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