How to Sell Your Stuff on Etsy

Lizzie Smiley
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Sep 4, 2025 • 37min

Ep 197 | Tariffs and Trends

Tune in to hear a run down on the current tariff situation PLUS the biggest trends for Q4 2025. **"How to Sell Your Stuff on Etsy" is not affiliated with or endorsed by Etsy.com STUFF I MENTIONED: ➡️Check out ProfitTree's new product research tool ETSY RADAR: https://lifetime.profittree.io/?via=lizzie87 Get the best profit tracking tool to help you know your numbers AND a product research tool for a one time fee of $67. (completely insane) ✅FREE Etsy Ads Masterclass: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/request-etsy-ads-masterclass ➡️ LIVE SEO Workshop on Thursday, September 25, 2025 from 7-8:30 PM Central time: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/VRBvPQKH/checkout Early Bird Pricing ends 9/8/25 ➡️Join the Trendspotting Membership (get your first month for just $17) use code: KEEP20 https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Trendspotting Bonuses are coming soon for active members: 🗓️ September 15 – Niche Bundle 🗓️ September 22 – Double Opportunities (that's 10 for the week, instead of 5!) 🗓️ September 29 – Christmas Trendspotting Bonus Video 🗓️ October 6 – 5 Free Design Templates 🗓️ October 13 – Mindset Visualization Audio LINKS: ⭐ (Tariffs) Etsy Seller Handbook: https://www.etsy.com/seller-handbook/article/1355662653395?ref=handbook ⭐ (Tariffs) Printify: https://help.printify.com/hc/en-us/articles/33398560291729-Import-Tariffs-Updates-for-Printify-Merchants ⭐Recommended Mockups!! Get my freebie: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/request-mockups-resource ⭐Pinterest Trend Report: https://newsroom.pinterest.com/news/the-2025-pinterest-fall-trend-report/ FAN FAVORITE RESOURCES: 🎙️Apply to be on the Podcast: https://sprw.io/stt-xfsV5fhDxxT3NJGVBghmWp ✅ 2,000 Digital Product Prompts (only $17): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/2000-digital-product-prompts 🎉 Lizzie's Coaching Group (one time fee = life time access): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/lizzie-smiley-s-coaching-group ➡️ Beginner Course: Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets Use code SAVE50 to save $50 ➡️Trendspotting Membership: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Use code KEEP20 to save $20 on your first month Get weekly emails with a trend report, over 200 high demand listing suggestions (POD/Digital), and a monthly group coaching call! ➡️ Lizzie's AI Workshops: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ai-workshops Save $50 with code SAVE50 ---------------------- FIND LIZZIE: Find me on Instagram and TikTok @HowtoSellYourStuff Apply to be on the Podcast: https://shorturl.at/skDBs HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF WEBSITE: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF SHOWNOTES: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/197 THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: The Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy beginner course Use code SAVE50 to save $50 https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets AND Trendspotting Receive a weekly trendspotting report from me with all the biggest trends and a video showing how to use them! ➡️You'll also get access to over 140 hot, low competition products in the POD and Digital Product space—with more added weekly. ➡️Need one-on-one support? I host a monthly group coaching call where you can ask questions and request a live shop review. Grab your spot: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Save $20 on your first month with code KEEP20 *Some of the links above are affiliate links which means I'll receive a commission if you purchase through my link, at no extra cost to you. You can see my affiliate disclosure here: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/affiliate-disclosure
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Aug 28, 2025 • 1h 14min

Ep 196 | Your Next Stream of Passive Income (Etsy Alternative) – with Erin Kendal

If you've been looking for an Etsy alternative, this episode is for you! This week I'm joined by Erin Kendal who built a full time passive income on Spoonflower by designing aesthetic digital patterns to be sold on wallpaper, fabric and more. Listen in for her best tips, inspiring story, and keys to success on this totally unique platform. **"How to Sell Your Stuff on Etsy" is not affiliated with or endorsed by Etsy.com STUFF I MENTIONED: ➡️Early Bird Pricing for LIVE SEO Workshop on Thursday, September 25, 2025 from 7-8:30 PM Central time: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/VRBvPQKH/checkout ➡️Join the Trendspotting Membership (get your first month for just $17): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Trendspotting Bonuses are coming soon for active members: 🗓️ September 15 – Niche Bundle 🗓️ September 22 – Double Opportunities (that's 10 for the week, instead of 5!) 🗓️ September 29 – Christmas Trendspotting Bonus Video 🗓️ October 6 – 5 Free Design Templates 🗓️ October 13 – Mindset Visualization Audio FIND ERIN: Power Seller Academy [Learn Spoonflower from Erin]: https://erin-kendal.mykajabi.com/a/2147876453/9c9jCZ7L Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/erin__kendal/ Website: https://www.erinkendal.com/ Spoonflower Dropshipping Course: https://erin-kendal.mykajabi.com/spoonflower-dropshipping-course FAN FAVORITE RESOURCES: 🎙️Apply to be on the Podcast: https://sprw.io/stt-xfsV5fhDxxT3NJGVBghmWp ✅ 2,000 Digital Product Prompts (only $17): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/2000-digital-product-prompts 🎉 Lizzie's Coaching Group (one time fee = life time access): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/lizzie-smiley-s-coaching-group ➡️ Beginner Course: Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets Use code SAVE50 to save $50 ➡️Trendspotting Membership: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Use code KEEP20 to save $20 on your first month Get weekly emails with a trend report, over 200 high demand listing suggestions (POD/Digital), and a monthly group coaching call! ➡️ Lizzie's AI Workshops: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ai-workshops Save $50 with code SAVE50 ---------------------- FIND LIZZIE: Find me on Instagram and TikTok @HowtoSellYourStuff Apply to be on the Podcast: https://shorturl.at/skDBs HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF WEBSITE: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF SHOWNOTES: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/196 THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: The Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy beginner course Use code SAVE50 to save $50 https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets AND Trendspotting Receive a weekly trendspotting report from me with all the biggest trends and a video showing how to use them! ➡️You'll also get access to over 140 hot, low competition products in the POD and Digital Product space—with more added weekly. ➡️Need one-on-one support? I host a monthly group coaching call where you can ask questions and request a live shop review. Grab your spot: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Save $20 on your first month with code KEEP20 *Some of the links above are affiliate links which means I'll receive a commission if you purchase through my link, at no extra cost to you. You can see my affiliate disclosure here: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/affiliate-disclosure
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h

Ep 195 | How to Sell POD and Digital Products in the Same Etsy Shop -with Laura Geissert

In this discussion, Laura Geissert, a speech-language pathologist and Etsy entrepreneur, sheds light on effectively selling both print-on-demand and digital products. She shares strategies for minimizing customer confusion, highlights the unique benefits of targeting a niche market, and delves into common challenges she’s faced. Laura also emphasizes the importance of streamlining customer communication and how she leverages social media and her podcast to boost sales. Her insights into design tools and customer service philosophy reveal the secrets behind her success.
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Aug 14, 2025 • 1h 1min

Ep 194 | Answering Your Etsy FAQs

Explore the essentials of building an email list and learn how to effectively use listing videos to boost your shop's ranking. Gain insights on managing multiple shops, opening new accounts, and understanding the Etsy algorithm's intricacies. Discuss seasonal versus evergreen strategies, keyword tool recommendations, and pricing tactics for digital products. Discover tips for reviving inactive shops and navigating taxes while ensuring you're set for success in a competitive marketplace!
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Aug 7, 2025 • 51min

Ep 193 | Print on Demand Power Hour with Cassiy Johnson⁩ (Your Questions Answered)

This week I'm joined by Print on Demand Expert Cassiy Johnson and she's answering rapid fire questions to help you have more success with your POD Etsy shop. We cover everything from whether POD and digital products can coexist in the same shop, to whether you should run daily sales, design strategies, interpreting stats—and so much more. Tune in for expert advice on maximizing your POD potential! **"How to Sell Your Stuff on Etsy" is not affiliated with or endorsed by Etsy.com STUFF I MENTIONED: Apply to be on the Podcast: https://sprw.io/stt-xfsV5fhDxxT3NJGVBghmWp FIND CASSIY: Cassiy Johnson on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CassiyJohnson Get Simply Listed on a 14 day FREE Trial: https://simplylisted.io/?via=lizzie This tool will automate your Mockup Process through Printify saving you TONS of time setting up your listings! Get Cassiy's POD course/Mentorship Group (The POD Roadmap): https://www.cassiyjohnson.com/a/2147563306/rLmqwFZc Join Cassiy's Trend Membership: https://www.cassiyjohnson.com/a/2148142897/rLmqwFZc ---------------------- Learn from Lizzie: Got Questions? NEED ONE-ON-ONE HELP? 🎉 Lizzie's Coaching Group (one time fee = life time access): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/lizzie-smiley-s-coaching-group ➡️ Beginner Course: Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets Use code SAVE50 to save $50 ➡️Trendspotting Membership: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Use code KEEP20 to save $20 on your first month Get weekly emails with a trend report, over 160 high demand listing suggestions (POD/Digital), and a monthly group coaching call! ➡️ Lizzie's AI Workshops: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ai-workshops Save $50 with code SAVE50 ---------------------- FIND LIZZIE: Find me on Instagram and TikTok @HowtoSellYourStuff Apply to be on the Podcast: https://shorturl.at/skDBs HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF WEBSITE: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF SHOWNOTES: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/193 THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: The Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy beginner course Use code SAVE50 to save $50 https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets AND Trendspotting Receive a weekly trendspotting report from me with all the biggest trends and a video showing how to use them! ➡️You'll also get access to over 140 hot, low competition products in the POD and Digital Product space—with more added weekly. ➡️Need one-on-one support? I host a monthly group coaching call where you can ask questions and request a live shop review. Grab your spot: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Save $20 on your first month with code KEEP20 *Some of the links above are affiliate links which means I'll receive a commission if you purchase through my link, at no extra cost to you. You can see my affiliate disclosure here: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/affiliate-disclosure
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Jul 31, 2025 • 1h 3min

Ep 192 | Etsy and Beyond: Transforming Abstract Art into Energizing Home Decor --with Leila Simon Hayes

In this episode, I'm joined by Leila Simon Hayes, an abstract artist and textile designer who transforms simple elements into unique, energizing home decor. We dive into how Leila's meditative and emotionally-driven artwork becomes table linens, homewares, wallpaper, and more, sold across Etsy and other platforms. Tune in for insights on growing a multi-platform business while bringing abstract art to life in everyday spaces! **"How to Sell Your Stuff on Etsy" is not affiliated with or endorsed by Etsy.com STUFF I MENTIONED: Submit your FAQs: https://sprw.io/stt-dEeCxhdfYaf3eqBYohD7fZ Apply to be on the Podcast: https://sprw.io/stt-xfsV5fhDxxT3NJGVBghmWp ➡️ Are you interested in a course about how I create and sell digital products on Etsy? Let me know here: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/interest-digital-product-course Episodes Mentioned: ➡️ Ep 177 | Gloria – PR : https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/177 GoodMoodPrints: https://www.goodmoodprints.com Spoonflower: https://www.spoonflower.com Gango Custom Printing for High Quality Prints: https://www.gangocustomprinting.com/ FIND LEILA: Website: leilasimonhayes.com IG: @leilasimonhayes Spoonflower: https://www.spoonflower.com/profiles/leilasimonhayes Use LIZZIE20 for 20% in my shop (for everything except wallpaper) ✅ NEW RESOURCES: 1,000 Done-for-you Digital Products you can bundle and sell (only $27): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/1000-dfy-digital-products 2,000 Digital Product Prompts (only $17): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/2000-digital-product-prompts Ultimate Niche Bundle (only $27): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/niche-secrets Trend Guide (only $5): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/T2Y8zR6S ---------------------- Learn from Lizzie: Got Questions? NEED ONE-ON-ONE HELP? 🎉 Lizzie's Coaching Group (one time fee = life time access): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/lizzie-smiley-s-coaching-group ➡️ Beginner Course: Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets Use code SAVE50 to save $50 ➡️Trendspotting Membership: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Use code KEEP20 to save $20 on your first month Get weekly emails with a trend report, over 160 high demand listing suggestions (POD/Digital), and a monthly group coaching call! ➡️ Lizzie's AI Workshops: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ai-workshops Save $50 with code SAVE50 ---------------------- FIND LIZZIE: Find me on Instagram and TikTok @HowtoSellYourStuff Apply to be on the Podcast: https://shorturl.at/skDBs HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF WEBSITE: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF SHOWNOTES: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/192 THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: The Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy beginner course Use code SAVE50 to save $50 https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets AND Trendspotting Receive a weekly trendspotting report from me with all the biggest trends and a video showing how to use them! ➡️You'll also get access to over 140 hot, low competition products in the POD and Digital Product space—with more added weekly. ➡️Need one-on-one support? I host a monthly group coaching call where you can ask questions and request a live shop review. Grab your spot: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Save $20 on your first month with code KEEP20 *Some of the links above are affiliate links which means I'll receive a commission if you purchase through my link, at no extra cost to you. You can see my affiliate disclosure here: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/affiliate-disclosure
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Jul 24, 2025 • 53min

Ep 191 | Attract Your Ideal Customers and Strengthen Your Brand Through Podcasting -with Juliana Barbati

If you have goals of building your business into a trusted brand that reaches beyond Etsy, this episode is for you! This week Juliana Barbati is sharing how starting your own podcast can attract your perfect customers in droves and build a brand platform that is limitless. Tune in to hear how a podcast can help your shop grow and learn tactical steps for getting started. **"How to Sell Your Stuff on Etsy" is not affiliated with or endorsed by Etsy.com STUFF I MENTIONED: Episodes Mentioned: ➡️ Ep 82 | Previous Episode with Juliana: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/market-your-Etsy-Shop-with-podcast FIND JULIANA: SPECIAL FREEBIE: http://julianabarbati.com/lizzie-exclusive (It's a lesson from Juliana's podcasting course, specific to e-commerce sellers using a podcast to grow your shop and brand) Website: www.julianabarbati.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/julianabarbati_ Organic Marketing Simplified Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/organic-marketing-simplified-podcasting-strategy-and/id1513824115 Email: hello@julianabarbati.com ✅ NEW RESOURCES: 1,000 Done-for-you Digital Products you can bundle and sell (only $27): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/1000-dfy-digital-products 2,000 Digital Product Prompts (only $17): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/2000-digital-product-prompts Ultimate Niche Bundle (only $27): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/niche-secrets Trend Guide (only $5): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/T2Y8zR6S ---------------------- Learn from Lizzie: Got Questions? NEED ONE-ON-ONE HELP? 🎉 Lizzie's Coaching Group (one time fee = life time access): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/lizzie-smiley-s-coaching-group ➡️ Beginner Course: Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets Use code SAVE50 to save $50 ➡️Trendspotting Membership: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Use code KEEP20 to save $20 on your first month Get weekly emails with a trend report, over 160 high demand listing suggestions (POD/Digital), and a monthly group coaching call! ➡️ Lizzie's AI Workshops: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ai-workshops Save $50 with code SAVE50 ---------------------- FIND LIZZIE: Find me on Instagram and TikTok @HowtoSellYourStuff Apply to be on the Podcast: https://shorturl.at/skDBs HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF WEBSITE: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF SHOWNOTES: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/191 THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: The Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy beginner course Use code SAVE50 to save $50 https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets AND Trendspotting Receive a weekly trendspotting report from me with all the biggest trends and a video showing how to use them! ➡️You'll also get access to over 140 hot, low competition products in the POD and Digital Product space—with more added weekly. ➡️Need one-on-one support? I host a monthly group coaching call where you can ask questions and request a live shop review. Grab your spot: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Save $20 on your first month with code KEEP20 *Some of the links above are affiliate links which means I'll receive a commission if you purchase through my link, at no extra cost to you. You can see my affiliate disclosure here: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/affiliate-disclosure
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Jul 17, 2025 • 56min

Ep 190 | How to Sell Your Art on Etsy -With Emily Keating Snyder

This week I'm joined by artist Emily Keating Snyder who shares her journey of selling hundreds of her own art pieces on Etsy AND on her website. We discuss everything from the types of art that are in demand, selling prints versus originals, and how Emily navigates pricing, driving traffic, and PR features. If you're an artist trying to sell your art on Etsy, tune in for valuable tips on making it as an artist on Etsy and growing your presence online! **"How to Sell Your Stuff on Etsy" is not affiliated with or endorsed by Etsy.com STUFF I MENTIONED: Got Questions? NEED ONE-ON-ONE HELP? 🎉 Lizzie's Coaching Group (one time fee = life time access): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/lizzie-smiley-s-coaching-group ➡️ FREE ETSY ADS MASTERCLASS: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/request-etsy-ads-masterclass Get Profittree for one flat fee of $67: https://lifetime.profittree.io/?via=lizzie87 Episodes Mentioned: ➡️ Ep 169 | Melissa sells original art: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/169 ➡️ Ep 177 | Gloria teaches us how to leverage PR: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/177 FIND EMILY: Course on Selling Your Art: https://www.emilykeatingsnyder.com/mentorship-packages-products/art-print-empire-mini-course For A Special Discount, Use Code: LIZZIE10 Website: https://www.emilykeatingsnyder.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emksnyder/ ✅ NEW RESOURCES: 1,000 Done-for-you Digital Products you can bundle and sell (only $27): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/1000-dfy-digital-products 2,000 Digital Product Prompts (only $7): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/2000-digital-product-prompts Ultimate Niche Bundle (only $27): https://lizziesmiley.samcart.com/products/niche-secrets Trend Guide (only $5): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/T2Y8zR6S ---------------------- Learn from Lizzie: Got Questions? NEED ONE-ON-ONE HELP? 🎉 Lizzie's Coaching Group (one time fee = life time access): https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/lizzie-smiley-s-coaching-group ➡️ Beginner Course: Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets Use code SAVE50 to save $50 ➡️Trendspotting Membership: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Use code KEEP20 to save $20 on your first month Get weekly emails with a trend report, over 160 high demand listing suggestions (POD/Digital), and a monthly group coaching call! ➡️ Lizzie's AI Workshops: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ai-workshops Save $50 with code SAVE50 ---------------------- FIND LIZZIE: Find me on Instagram and TikTok @HowtoSellYourStuff Apply to be on the Podcast: https://shorturl.at/skDBs HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF WEBSITE: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/ HOW TO SELL YOUR STUFF SHOWNOTES: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/blog/190 THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY: The Six Figure Secrets to Getting Started on Etsy beginner course Use code SAVE50 to save $50 https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/six-figure-secrets AND Trendspotting Receive a weekly trendspotting report from me with all the biggest trends and a video showing how to use them! ➡️You'll also get access to over 140 hot, low competition products in the POD and Digital Product space—with more added weekly. ➡️Need one-on-one support? I host a monthly group coaching call where you can ask questions and request a live shop review. Grab your spot: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/offers/JxNYgLnw Save $20 on your first month with code KEEP20 *Some of the links above are affiliate links which means I'll receive a commission if you purchase through my link, at no extra cost to you. You can see my affiliate disclosure here: https://www.howtosellyourstuff.com/affiliate-disclosure
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Jul 10, 2025 • 1h 3min

Ep 189 | Beginner Real Talk About Starting a Digital Product Etsy Shop--with Rebecca Miller

Rebecca Miller, a pediatric speech-language pathologist turned Etsy seller, shares her exciting journey of launching a digital product shop just four months ago. She discusses overcoming imposter syndrome and the importance of consistent uploads in building momentum. Becca highlights the significance of mockups in boosting sales, and both she and Lizzie explore testing various niches for better performance. With advice on pricing strategies and utilizing AI tools, Becca inspires aspiring sellers to set realistic goals while enjoying the creative process.
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Jul 3, 2025 • 59min

Ep 188 | Scaling a Handmade Etsy Business, Working Full Time AND Raising a Family – with Tatiana and Matt Leach

Tatiana and Matt Leach, the dynamic duo behind Tailored and Treasured, share their inspiring journey of running a successful Etsy shop while balancing full-time jobs and family life. They discuss their creative process in crafting personalized gifts, the importance of teamwork, and how they manage over 200 orders a month. The couple dives into time management, upgrading equipment for efficiency, and the sentimental connection created through their products. Their advice on navigating the challenges of entrepreneurship is both practical and motivating!

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