

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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May 10, 2019 • 52min
Recode Decode: Esther Wojcicki
Esther Wojcicki, an influential journalism educator and author of "How to Raise Successful People," shares her wisdom on parenting and education. She discusses her innovative teaching approach that empowers students and emphasizes media literacy. Wojcicki reveals how trust and independence shape her success in raising three accomplished daughters, including YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki. She addresses the challenges of gender discrimination, the impact of social media, and criticizes helicopter parenting, advocating for a balanced approach to cultivate resilience and happiness.

May 8, 2019 • 1h 40min
Recode Decode: Sam Harris
In an engaging discussion, Sam Harris, a neuroscientist and philosopher known for his work on science and spirituality, addresses the polarizing topics of Islam, social media, and political discourse. He reflects on the controversies surrounding his books and the complexities of identity politics. Harris critiques the impact of misinformation and advocate for rational discourse. The conversation also highlights the challenges of maintaining free speech online while navigating the intricate dynamics of extremism, truth, and moral responsibility in today's society.

May 6, 2019 • 1h 5min
Recode Decode: Tristan Harris
Tristan Harris, co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology and former design ethicist at Google, shares his insights on 'human downgrading' and its implications for society. He discusses the co-opting of his earlier movement, Time Well Spent, by tech giants. Harris critiques digital well-being features from Apple and Google and highlights the urgent need for accountability in tech. He argues that platforms like Facebook and YouTube are more harmful than environmental disasters, calling for ethical design and governance in the digital space.

May 3, 2019 • 1h 2min
Recode Decode: Scott Galloway
Scott Galloway, NYU professor and author of "The Algebra of Happiness," dives deep into the pursuit of happiness and the dangers of materialism. He argues against the cliché of 'following your passion' and emphasizes the value of meaningful relationships over social media illusions. Galloway shares insights on how caregivers enhance longevity and the impact of parenting on children's mental well-being. With a mix of humor and sincerity, he explores how lifestyle choices can lead to true fulfillment, branching into discussions on personal growth and vulnerability.

May 1, 2019 • 1h 19min
Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed
London Breed, the Mayor of San Francisco, dives deep into the city’s pressing issues like homelessness and affordable housing. She shares her vision for mental health reform and the impact of tech companies on the local community. Discussing the challenges of urban development, she emphasizes collaboration and innovative solutions. Breed also touches on civic engagement, the potential of a car-less San Francisco, and her relationship with the tech sector. Plus, she reflects on her aspirations for higher office, keeping listeners engaged with her candid insights.

Apr 29, 2019 • 1h 5min
Recode Decode: Trash in space, diversity in STEM and artificial meat at TED 2019
Join behavioral biologist Danielle Lee, known for blending hip hop with science, aerospace engineer Moriba Jah, an advocate for tackling space junk, and astrophysicist Erica Hamden, who’s developing next-gen telescopes. They discuss using cultural narratives to make science more accessible, the critical issue of space debris management, and the promising future of meat alternatives. Their engaging conversation highlights the intersection of technology, diversity in STEM, and innovative solutions to global challenges.

Apr 26, 2019 • 46min
Recode Decode: Journalist Julia Angwin
Julia Angwin is a renowned investigative journalist known for her focus on technology's societal impacts, having led ProPublica and co-founded The Markup. In this engaging discussion, she shares her journey into tech journalism and reflects on public indifference towards tech privacy issues. Angwin delves into the challenges of holding major tech companies accountable, discusses media literacy among youth, and reveals insights into navigating workplace turmoil in journalism. The talk underscores the urgent need for rigorous ethical standards in an age dominated by algorithms.

Apr 24, 2019 • 44min
Recode Decode: Why thinking about your death five times a day is good for you
Hansa Bergwall, co-founder of the WeCroak app, discusses how embracing the reality of death can lead to a more fulfilling life. He explains that the app reminds users of their mortality five times a day to promote mindfulness and prioritize what truly matters. Their approach avoids ads, focusing instead on personal reflection. Bergwall also debates the ethics of technology's relationship with death and highlights cultural practices, like those from Bhutan, that reinforce appreciation for life. Humor and symbolism are key to their message.

Apr 22, 2019 • 1h 1min
Recode Decode: Why tech is "flunking" the diversity test
Freada Kapor Klein, founder of Kapor Capital and a leading advocate for diversity in tech, shares her insights on the industry's failure to meet diversity goals. She discusses the importance of genuine company values over profit and the nuances of sexual coercion versus harassment. Klein reflects on her impact investing journey, holding tech companies accountable, and the need to address systemic inequalities. She critiques existing diversity initiatives in venture capital, emphasizing the importance of inclusive practices and the balance between financial success and social responsibility.

Apr 17, 2019 • 1h 8min
Recode Decode: Ford CTO Ken Washington
Ken Washington, Ford’s CTO and a leader in AI and autonomous vehicles, delves into the future of mobility. He discusses Ford's role in DARPA challenges, revealing how those experiences shape self-driving technology today. Washington highlights ethical concerns surrounding AI, emphasizing data privacy and corporate responsibility. He envisions a future with smart, personalized vehicles and the societal impacts of self-driving cars on job markets. Plus, he shares the coolest and creepiest aspects of AI innovation, blending technology with our everyday lives.


