

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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May 31, 2019 • 57min
Recode Decode: Susan Hockfield
Susan Hockfield, the former president of MIT and a renowned neuroscientist, dives into her new book, exploring how biology can drive the next technological revolution. She discusses the innovative culture at MIT, sustainable energy solutions, and the revolutionary potential of 'living machines' in healthcare and environmental challenges. Hockfield emphasizes the need for collaboration between disciplines to tackle pressing issues like clean water and cancer detection, while expressing concern over declining trust in scientific expertise.

May 29, 2019 • 1h 7min
Recode Decode: Investors Mark Cuban and Steve Case and talent agent Scooter Braun (Live)
In a lively discussion, Mark Cuban, a billionaire investor and owner of the Dallas Mavericks, teams up with Steve Case, co-founder of AOL, to explore the entrepreneurial landscape beyond Silicon Valley. They share insights on how local hubs are reshaping innovation and the role of education in nurturing future founders. Meanwhile, talent agent Scooter Braun dives into the impact of social media on music, recounts his bold business moves, and emphasizes the need to balance gut instinct with data. It's a fascinating blend of business wisdom and entertainment strategy!

May 27, 2019 • 57min
Recode Decode: DuckDuckGo CEO Gabe Weinberg
Gabe Weinberg, Founder and CEO of DuckDuckGo, dives deep into the significance of online privacy and his journey in building a privacy-focused search engine. He discusses the implications of behavioral targeting versus contextual advertising. Weinberg advocates for national privacy legislation and highlights the need for regulatory measures to challenge tech giants like Google. The conversation touches on the right to be forgotten and what consumers can do to protect their personal data in an increasingly surveilled world. Tune in for insights on defending your privacy!

May 24, 2019 • 48min
Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live)
In a lively discussion, Alex Stamos, former Chief Security Officer at Facebook, shares insights on the platform’s misunderstood role in democracy, advocating for regulatory changes and accountability measures. He critiques corporate policies and proposes shifts in compensation to prioritize societal benefits. Ev Williams, co-founder of Twitter, reflects on his exit from the board, shares his thoughts on media evolution, and highlights the investment landscape's lack of diversity. They both explore the complexities and responsibilities of social media in connecting and impacting society.

May 22, 2019 • 56min
Recode Decode: Anand Giridharadas
Anand Giridharadas, author of "Winners Take All," critiques the philanthropic practices of tech billionaires. He discusses how their efforts often serve as a facade for maintaining wealth inequality. The conversation dives into the ethics of giving back, using examples like the Sackler family and Carnegie's legacy. Giridharadas also highlights the importance of systemic change over charity and comments on the intersection of wealth and democracy, especially in the context of the 2020 elections and civic engagement.

May 20, 2019 • 59min
Recode Decode: Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse
Brad Garlinghouse, CEO of Ripple and former leader at major tech firms like Yahoo and AOL, dives into the transformative potential of blockchain for financial institutions. He discusses bridging the gap between traditional banks and cryptocurrencies, emphasizing the need for collaboration, not competition. Garlinghouse also reflects on the journey of crypto from skepticism to practical utility, the importance of regulatory dialogue, and how blockchain can revolutionize cross-border transactions. Additionally, he tackles the challenges facing both the unbanked and mainstream financial systems.

May 17, 2019 • 1h 3min
Recode Decode: “Good to Great” author Jim Collins
Jim Collins, renowned author of 'Good to Great' and 'Built to Last', discusses his latest insights on business growth and leadership. He shares fascinating stories about teaching Jeff Bezos and the principles behind 'level-five' leaders. Collins emphasizes the importance of core beliefs versus practices and explores the evolving landscape of technology and entrepreneurship. Delving into luck’s role in success, he contrasts the enduring values of leaders like Jack Bogle and Steve Jobs against today's corporate challenges. His wisdom highlights the balance between innovation and timeless principles.

May 15, 2019 • 1h 6min
Recode Decode: Preet Bharara
Preet Bharara, former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and host of Stay Tuned With Preet, dives into the complexities of law and technology. He discusses his dismissal by President Trump and reflects on the impact of social media on public understanding of legal issues. Bharara shares insights from his new book, 'Doing Justice,' emphasizing accountability in tech and challenges of misinformation. He also ponders the future of law amid rapid technological changes and the need for ethical standards in a chaotic landscape.

May 13, 2019 • 1h 19min
Recode Decode: Former Secretary of Defense Ash Carter
Ash Carter, former Secretary of Defense under Obama, now at Harvard's Belfer Center, discusses the pressing issues of tech regulation and ethics. He explores the balance between government oversight and innovation, debating the impact of regulations like CDA Section 230. The conversation highlights concerns about AI in warfare, privacy laws, and the ethical challenges facing tech companies in partnerships with defense sectors. Carter also touches on the influence of social media on journalism and the need for accountability among tech giants.

May 10, 2019 • 56min
Recode Decode: Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes
Chris Hughes, co-founder of Facebook and advocate for breaking up the tech giant, shares his insights on its rise and influence. He discusses his motivations behind his New York Times op-ed, reflecting on how the 2016 election shifted his perspective. Hughes reveals the dangers of Zuckerberg's unchecked power and explores the complexities of regulating tech. He delves into issues like income inequality, calls for a new digital regulatory agency, and the ethical responsibilities of platforms in shaping public discourse.


