

Decoder with Nilay Patel
The Verge
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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Apr 15, 2019 • 53min
Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger
Paula Kerger, President and CEO of PBS, shares her insights from over 13 years at the helm, navigating public broadcasting through political challenges. She discusses the impact of proposed federal funding cuts, especially on rural communities. Kerger highlights PBS's shift to digital media and innovative strategies, including virtual reality and engaging children’s programming. The conversation also touches on PBS's role amidst competitors like Netflix and emphasizes the importance of community support to sustain its mission.

Apr 12, 2019 • 50min
Recode Decode: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi talks candidly about breaking up Big Tech and the relationship between technology and democracy. She emphasizes the need for greater accountability from tech giants and discusses the challenges of hate speech online. Pelosi reflects on foreign interference in elections and the importance of safeguarding future democratic processes. The conversation also touches on immigration, education funding, and the evolving landscape of political communication in the age of social media, highlighting both challenges and opportunities.

Apr 10, 2019 • 55min
Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author David Wallace-Wells
David Wallace-Wells, Deputy Editor of New York Magazine and author of "The Uninhabitable Earth," delves into the pressing realities of climate change. He uncovers shocking misconceptions and the stark lack of progress in clean energy. The conversation highlights how today’s unprecedented storms foreshadow deeper issues and critiques Silicon Valley's inadequate response. Wallace-Wells argues we need a multitude of solutions rather than a singular fix, while also pointing out the significant roles both the U.S. and China play in global emissions.

Apr 8, 2019 • 1h 3min
Recode Decode: Meredith Whittaker and Kate Crawford
Meredith Whittaker and Kate Crawford, founders of the AI Now Institute, dive deep into the societal implications of artificial intelligence. They discuss the dangers of 'dirty data' and biased search results that can skew AI conclusions. The importance of diversity in tech is highlighted, alongside the ethical concerns of technologies like facial recognition. They also critique current AI self-regulation efforts and explore international approaches, notably China's social credit system. Their insights underscore the need for transparency, accountability, and a more inclusive tech landscape.

Apr 3, 2019 • 1h 3min
Recode Decode: Valerie Jarrett
Valerie Jarrett, former senior advisor to President Obama and author of "Finding My Voice," shares her journey from urban planning to politics. She reflects on the significance of mentorship and civic engagement, particularly after the 2016 election. The conversation delves into the challenges of today's political climate, including the impact of social media and the importance of voting. Jarrett also discusses her experiences at the White House, the role of grassroots movements, and the necessity of fostering inclusivity and constructive dialogue in public discourse.

Apr 1, 2019 • 44min
Recode Decode: Ashton Applewhite
Ashton Applewhite, a prominent writer and activist challenging ageism, shares her insights on fostering a positive perception of aging. She critiques Silicon Valley's obsession with youth and explores the harmful effects of age discrimination in tech. The conversation delves into the medical benefits of realistic attitudes toward aging, the importance of focusing on healthspan over lifespan, and the communal fight against ageism. Applewhite encourages listeners to rethink stereotypes and embrace the aging process as a vital part of life.

Mar 27, 2019 • 53min
Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram
Sean Rameswaram, host of the popular news podcast Today, Explained, dives into the evolution of daily news podcasts. He shares his journey from public radio to podcasting and discusses the massive impact of Serial on the medium. Rameswaram highlights the importance of choosing captivating topics amid saturated media. The conversation also touches on Gimlet's significant sale to Spotify and explores whether the podcast bubble is real, while reflecting on the future landscape of audio storytelling.

Mar 25, 2019 • 1h 8min
Recode Decode: Backstage Capital founder Arlan Hamilton and Deeds Not Words founder Wendy Davis (live at SXSW)
Arlan Hamilton, founder of Backstage Capital, champions underrepresented founders while Wendy Davis, a Texas politician and activist, inspires young women in politics. They discuss the surge of political energy among youth, particularly women of color, and the challenges they're overcoming. Arlan shares her experience with biases in venture capital, while Wendy reflects on her historic filibuster and its impact. The conversation emphasizes the need for allyship, transparency, and the urgency of amplifying diverse voices in both tech and politics.

Mar 23, 2019 • 1h 29min
Recode Decode: dtx CEO Tim Armstrong and Poshmark CEO Manish Chandra (live at An Evening With Code Commerce)
Tim Armstrong, CEO of DTX, shares his vision for blending online and physical retail experiences, likening them to festival events like Coachella. Manish Chandra, CEO of Poshmark, discusses how the platform evolved from secondhand clothing to a social commerce leader, becoming a top iPhone shopping app. Both guests delve into strategies for improving consumer relationships and adapting to evolving market dynamics, while also highlighting the importance of community engagement and innovative marketing.

Mar 20, 2019 • 55min
Recode Decode: Richard Walker
Richard Walker, a Professor emeritus at UC Berkeley and author of "Pictures of a Gone City," explores the dark side of prosperity in the San Francisco Bay Area. He discusses how California's economic booms, from the gold rush to the tech boom, often come with significant social costs. Walker highlights the housing crisis as a 'bottleneck effect' and critiques the simplistic 'just build more' solution. He argues for taxing the wealthy to promote equality while examining how tech innovation may shift away from the Bay Area.


