

The Indigo Podcast
Ben Baran and Chris Everett
Take control of your life, business, and career once and for all. The Indigo Podcast offers raw, unfiltered, and science-based talk about flourishing in life. Join CEOs, executives, and regular folks in learning how to build a better future at work and beyond. Check out this top ranked podcast! For more information, visit www.indigotogether.com.
Our approach is evidence based and our conversation is quirky. In every episode, we:
1. Promote the flourishing of people and organizations.
2. Bridge the gap between social science and management practice.
3. Provide an antidote or counterpoint to the ever-increasing overly simplistic, reductionist approaches to work and life.
4. Feed the curiosity of people who want to make the world a better place through work.
5. Inspire listeners to become lifelong learners and bold difference-makers.
Our approach is evidence based and our conversation is quirky. In every episode, we:
1. Promote the flourishing of people and organizations.
2. Bridge the gap between social science and management practice.
3. Provide an antidote or counterpoint to the ever-increasing overly simplistic, reductionist approaches to work and life.
4. Feed the curiosity of people who want to make the world a better place through work.
5. Inspire listeners to become lifelong learners and bold difference-makers.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 8, 2020 • 36min
Big Company or Big Brother? Surveillance of Employees
Is the boss always watching you? With the proliferation of employee monitoring technologies, it's becoming increasingly likely. But employee surveillance--electronic or otherwise--must be handled with care. In this episode, we discuss: What is employee surveillance Forms and negative reactions to employee surveillance Implications for people, leaders and organizations Links and Other Information News about H&M and employee surveillance: BBC and NY Post Yost, A. B., Behrend, T. S., Howardson, G., Darrow, J. B., & Jensen, J. M. (2019). Reactance to electronic surveillance: A test of antecedents and outcomes. Journal of Business and Psychology, 34(1), 71-86. Click here

Oct 6, 2020 • 1h 7min
David Horning on Humor in the Workplace
What is humor? Why does it matter with regard to the workplace? How can it help organizations and leaders? In this episode, we talk with comedian and speaker David Horning about the changing nature of work and how humor fits into it all. Specifically, we discuss: The work landscape Why humor helps How to--how NOT to--incorporate humor into the workplace and leadership Links and Other Information David Horning's website David's organization, Water Cooler Comedy David's podcast, You Can't Laugh at That David on Twitter Avolio, B. J., Howell, J. M., & Sosik, J. J. (1999). A funny thing happened on the way to the bottom line: Humor as a moderator of leadership style effects. Academy of Management Journal, 42(2), 219-227. Click here Pundt, A., & Venz, L. (2017). Personal need for structure as a boundary condition for humor in leadership. Journal of Organizational Behavior, 38(1), 87-107. Click here Huo, Y., Lam, W., & Chen, Z. (2012). Am I the only one this supervisor is laughing at? Effects of aggressive humor on employee strain and addictive behaviors. Personnel Psychology, 65(4), 859-885. Click here

Oct 1, 2020 • 42min
Breaking Bad … News: A How-To Guide
Dealing with bad news is a fundamental part of being a leader or a manager. Focusing on how to deal with bad news within the organization, we discuss the research on delivering bad news and distill some actionable insights. Specifically, we explore: How sharing bad news is hard and painful, but it's necessary Why and how fairness matters with regard to sharing bad news Implications for people, leaders, and organizations Links and Other Information Bies, R. J. (2013). The delivery of bad news in organizations: A framework for analysis. Journal of Management, 39(1), 136-162. Click here Lavelle, J. J., Folger, R., & Manegold, J. G. (2016). Delivering bad news: How procedural unfairness affects messengers' distancing and refusals. Journal of Business Ethics, 136(1), 43-55. Click here Firing via Zoom: At the scooter-sharing startup Bird and at WW International Inc.

Sep 29, 2020 • 1h 11min
Marisa Carson on Turbulence and Talent Management Implications
What is talent management, anyway? And what does it have to do with how the workplace is changing? We explore these questions and more in this phenomenal episode with Marisa Carson, Ph.D. Specifically, we discuss: How an organizational psychologist ended up working in talent management How the workplace is changing amid COVID and other social shifts Implications for talent management in the future Links and Other Information Related episode: Enrica Ruggs on Race, Organizations, and the Role of Leaders

Sep 24, 2020 • 53min
Corporate Training Doesn't Have to Stink!
Training at work is often terrible--but it doesn't have to be. In this episode, we unpack some of the basic--yet essential--ideas behind creating training that has a real and sustained impact. Specifically, we address: What is training and why does it matter Ways to design training so that it helps people learn Key takeaways for people, leaders, organizations Links and Other Information Association for Talent Development: website and state of the industry The International Society for Performance Improvement: website The Thiagi Group: games and other training-related resources Aguinis, H., & Kraiger, K. (2009). Benefits of training and development for individuals and teams, organizations, and society. Annual Review of Psychology, 60, 451-474. Click here

Sep 22, 2020 • 1h 3min
Josh Cogswell on Workplace Ostracism
Being ostracized is painful, regardless of whether it occurs in our non-work or work lives. We explore workplace ostracism in this episode with Josh Cogswell, an assistant professor of management at Nicholls State University who recently published a meta-analysis on workplace ostracism in the Journal of Applied Psychology. Specifically, we discuss: What is ostracism and why does it matter in the workplace Outcomes of ostracism What leads to ostracism and implications for people, leaders, and organizations Links and Other Information Josh Cogswell: LinkedIn or at the Nicholls State University College of Business Administration Howard, M. C., Cogswell, J. E., & Smith, M. B. (2019). The antecedents and outcomes of workplace ostracism: A meta-analysis. Journal of Applied Psychology. Click here

Sep 17, 2020 • 50min
Not Throwin' Away My Shot! Mormons, Hells Angels, and Forging Leaders
To develop as a leader, stretch assignments or "crucibles" are critical. We discuss in more detail, using Mormon missionary experiences and the Hells Angels motorcycle runs as examples. Specifically, we explore: Why people need "crucibles" to grow and develop What is a stretch assignment Implications for people, leaders, and organizations Links and Other Information Thomas, R. J. (2008). Crucibles of leadership development. MIT Sloan Management Review, 49(3), 15. Click here Fernández-Aráoz, C. 21st-Century Talent Spotting. Harvard Business Review. Yost, P. R., & Plunkett, M. M. (2009). Real Time Leadership Development (Vol. 7). John Wiley & Sons. Click here

Sep 15, 2020 • 1h
Dave Schramm on Building Relationships and Families that Thrive
Dave Schramm is a no-kidding family and relationships scholar--but he also does tremendous work bringing that research-based knowledge to the general public. He's an expert on what makes good relationships and good families, and he has great ideas on how those concepts can apply in the workplace. In this episode, we discuss: Promoting happy and healthy relationships The marriage and family help landscape and Dave's assessment of it How families and organizations can benefit from this field of knowledge Links and Other Information Dave's website: https://www.drdavespeaks.com/ Dave on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrDaveUSU/ The Gottman Institute: https://www.gottman.com/ VIA Character Strengths: free assessment Related episode: Clayton Christensen--How Will You Measure Your Life

Sep 10, 2020 • 50min
How Leaders Actually Develop
Drawing upon decades of research, we describe what science suggests regarding how leaders actually develop. Specifically, we explore: What is leader development and why does it matter What do we know about leader development and how does it happen Implications for people and organizations Links and Other Information McCall Jr, M. W. (2010). Recasting leadership development. Industrial and Organizational Psychology, 3(1), 3-19. Click here Day, D. V., Fleenor, J. W., Atwater, L. E., Sturm, R. E., & McKee, R. A. (2014). Advances in leader and leadership development: A review of 25 years of research and theory. The Leadership Quarterly, 25(1), 63-82. Click here Related episodes: Mentoring, Managers as Coaches, Creating a Feedback Culture

Sep 8, 2020 • 1h 3min
Matt Crayne and Kelsey Medeiros on Pandemic Leadership
Justin Trudeau, Jair Bolsonaro, Angela Merkel: three distinct leaders with three distinct approaches toward the COVID pandemic. We unpack their charismatic, ideological, and pragmatic approaches with Matt Crayne of the University at Albany and Kelsey Medeiros of the University of Nebraska Omaha. Specifically, we discuss: Three ways to think about leadership Profiles of three world leaders during COVID Implications for people and organizations Links and Other Information Matt Crayne: website and Twitter Kelsey Medeiros: website, ethics consulting firm, and Twitter Crayne, M. P., & Medeiros, K. E. 2020. Making Sense of Crisis: Charismatic, Ideological, and Pragmatic Leadership in Response to COVID-19. The American Psychologist. Click here Baran, B. E., & Scott, C. W. (2010). Organizing ambiguity: A grounded theory of leadership and sensemaking within dangerous contexts. Military Psychology. Click here Leadership Lessons from Dancing Guy: video Managing the Unexpected: book


