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Are you pouring marketing dollars into a business that's secretly leaking profit? 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news Many entrepreneurs believe they can simply out-market their operational problems, but trying to scale chaos will only break your business faster.In this episode of the Marketing Misfits, Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with Jhana Li, operations expert and founder of Spyglass Ops. Jhana flips the script on traditional business advice, explaining why standard SOPs might actually be a distraction for early startups and how the right systems can act like "pouring soap on a slip and slide" to unlock your team's true potential. If you are drowning in day-to-day fires and poorly managed meetings, this masterclass in operations will help you step back into the visionary CEO role you were meant to play. 🔥 Key Takeaways from This Episode: The Leaky Bucket Theory: Why driving more sales into an operationally inefficient business just widens the cracks and drains your profit. When to Actually Hire an Operator: Why you should look for an Ops Manager around the $1M run rate, and why hiring a high-priced COO too early is a massive mistake. The $400k Meeting Mistake: How aimless weekly check-ins are bleeding your revenue, and the mandatory 3-step formula (Purpose, Agenda, Facilitator) to fix them. Why SOPs Can Be a Distraction: Why you should embrace disorganization until you hit true product-market fit. Jhana Li & Spyglass Ops: spyglassops.com | Follow on Social: @thejhanali ⏳Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 02:15 - The Coffee SOP 04:30 - Meet Jhana Li 07:45 - When is it Time to Hire an Operator? 10:20 - Ops Manager vs. Director of Ops vs. COO 13:15 - The Top 3 Reasons Operators Fail in Startups 17:00 - Why SOPs are a Distraction 22:40 - Overcoming Founder Bottlenecks 28:15 - Extrinsic vs. Intrinsic Motivation 32:00 - The "Leaky Bucket" 35:50 - How Bad Meetings Cost You $100 000s 40:10 - Managing to Outcomes, Not Inputs 45:30 - Guarantees the Perfect Hire in 90 Days Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfitsHosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

If you are tired of fighting for views on TikTok or Instagram, it is time to pivot to the platform where real business actually happens. 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news The average income on LinkedIn is over $130,000, almost double that of other major platforms and four out of five users are business decision-makers.In this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with Joshua B. Lee, widely known as the "Dopamine Dealer of LinkedIn". 🔥 You’ll Discover:The AI & SEO Takeover: Why Microsoft’s ownership of both LinkedIn and OpenAI is turning the platform into the foundation for future generative search. The Newsletter Hack: How LinkedIn newsletters achieve massive 20-50% open rates and get indexed by Google in less than an hour. The Anti-Automation Warning: Why using third-party automation tools will get your account banned within hours, and how to manually use Sales Navigator for better results. The Dopamine Strategy: How to use simple psychological stopgaps, like endorsing a skill or saying "thank you" to effortlessly start sales conversations without cold pitching. Event Lead Generation: Step-by-step instructions on setting up LinkedIn Events to legally collect first names, last names, and emails while inviting up to 8,000 connections a month. Newsjacking for Video: Why posting 1.5 to 2-minute videos reacting to trending LinkedIn news can generate millions of organic views. 🔗 Resources & Links Mentioned:Joshua B. Lee's Agency - https://joshuablee.com/ Chapters: 00:00 LinkedIn vs. Others 04:21 Meet Joshua B Lee 08:31 Why the LinkedIn Platform 12:44 The Power of LinkedIn and AI 21:33 LinkedIn Newsletter 26:34 Creating a Newsletter 31:12 Making LinkedIn Content 37:57 Using Sales Navigator 42:29 LinkedIn Limits 49:01 Premium Account 53:53 Dopamine Dealer Role 01:02:46 LinkedIn's Video Power 01:08:13 Webinar Event Setup ️ 01:12:39 Inviting Connections ️ 01:16:44 Podcast Listings ️ 🎙️ Subscribe to the Channel: Hit subscribe to catch new insights every Tuesday! Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfitsHosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Sarah Levinger, a DTC consultant and behavioral science expert who founded Tether Insights, unpacks the hidden psychology behind Gen Z buying. She explores Gen Z’s baseline hopelessness and why hype fails. They cover AI’s reshaping of ad ideation, the rise of algorithm-driven micro-trends, and how legacy brands misstep when they force cultural conversations.

Rachel B. Lee, brand strategist and co-founder of Standout Authority who helps pros build human-centered personal brands, discusses why fake marketing is failing. She explains using vulnerability and real stories to connect on LinkedIn. Topics include measuring authenticity, protecting brand voice from AI, and practical LinkedIn headline and storytelling tactics to stay top-of-mind.

Most people run webinars completely wrong. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with the legendary Jason Fladlien, the man responsible for some of the biggest launches in internet history, including a $57 million webinar and massive 8-figure launches with Iman Gadzhi. Jason breaks down the "Pitch Upfront" strategy, the psychology of delayed gratification, and how he consulted on Alex Hormozi’s $100M book launch. If you want to master the art of selling "one to many" and understand why context is king over content, this masterclass is for you. 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: - The Upfront Close: Why Jason tells the audience he’s selling to them within the first 5 minutes. - The Hormozi Factor: Inside the strategy behind the $100M 100M Offers book launch. - Affiliate Marketing Secrets: How Jason became the #1 affiliate for ASM, doing $9.8M in a single promotion. - The Power of "Tie Downs": How to anchor value so your audience stays committed to the transformation. - Physical + Digital Hybrids: Why adding physical bonuses (like embroidery machines or Amex-style perks) explodes conversion rates. - Masterminds vs. Mindset: Why your "Zip Code" (setting) matters more than your "Set" (mindset) for scaling to 8 and 9 figures. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits 📌 Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 02:45 - The $1.5M in 2 Minutes 05:30 - $9.8M as a Single Affiliate 08:15 - Why Webinars 11:40 - The "Two Objectives" Opening 15:50 - Working with Iman Gadzhi 20:10 - The "Amex" Bonus Strategy 24:35 - Alex Hormozi’s $100M Launch 29:00 - How to Reframe a Negative Audience 35:45 - Building a Content Team 42:10 - Why Kevin King Paid $35k+ for a Mastermind 48:00 - One to Many 🔗 Resources Mentioned: Jason Fladlien’s Book: One to Many - https://www.amazon.com/One-Many-Secret-Webinar-Success/dp/1544500645 #JasonFladlien #Webinars #MarketingMisfitHosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Steve Larsen, former ClickFunnels CMO and funnel builder who now runs LaunchForProfit, breaks down why funnels fail: weak hooks, positioning, and messaging. He explains the red ocean/blue offer idea, a five-part hook formula, and creative positioning tactics. Expect stories, bold branding moves, and practical frameworks to attract hand-raising leads.

Everyone thinks direct mail is outdated. Meanwhile, it’s still delivering $12 for every $1 spent, reaching every household in America 6 days a week, and producing engagement rates digital marketers can only dream about. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Dr. Wilson Zehr, founder of Zairmail, to break down why direct mail still works, how it integrates with digital marketing, and how automation is bringing this “old school” channel into the AI era. If you sell online, run e-commerce, build lists, or care about ROI, this episode may completely change how you think about marketing channels.This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfitsChapters:00:00 Why Direct Mail Wins03:00 Dragonfish + Email Strategy03:30 Meet Dr. Wilson Zehr06:00 Teaching Entrepreneurship11:20 What Makes Entrepreneurs Win16:00 How Businesses Get Funded21:45 Why Direct Mail Isn’t Dead28:10 $12 For Every $130:25 What Mail Does Better34:55 How Zairmail Works38:00 Mail Retargeting Explained42:15 QR Codes + Tracking45:30 Real Campaign Example52:00 Using Lists the Right Way57:00 AI + Direct MailWhat You’ll Learn• Why direct mail still produces strong ROI• The real reason mail volumes declined (and why that’s good news)• How direct mail gets a 98% “open rate”• Why email + mail together outperform either alone• How retargeting works with physical mail• How to automate mail campaigns in seconds• How to buy highly targeted mailing lists• Compiled lists vs response lists explained• How to track direct mail with QR codes• How direct mail fuels Amazon ranking• Why most marketers ignore this channel• How AI improves targeting, messaging, and offer strategy• How to integrate mail into a modern marketing stackWhy This Matters NowDigital ad costs are rising. Email inboxes are saturated. AI-generated content is everywhere. Direct mail is less competitive than ever and automation tools like Zairmail make it easier than it’s ever been. This isn’t about replacing digital. It’s about adding a channel most competitors ignore.GuestDr. Wilson Zehr Founder, Zairmail Automated direct mail software platform Website: https://zairmail.comAbout Marketing Misfits Marketing Misfits features real conversations with founders, operators, and marketers who build and scale businesses using unconventional strategies.Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King.New episodes every Tuesday.Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Tracy Graziani, founder of Green Fire Strategy, helps B2B teams align sales, marketing, and service through persona research and repeatable systems. She discusses why hypergrowth can backfire, how systems beat star hires, using AI for analysis not just content generation, and modern workflows that combine customer interviews with tools like NotebookLM for better research and content.

Some of the best business ideas don’t come from a boardroom. They come from a slow conversation, a shared experience, and a product that forces you to sit down and actually talk. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Brandon Wells (aka Cigar Mechanic) to break down what a cigar broker actually does, how cigar brands grow without in-house reps, and why the cigar industry is still one of the most relationship-driven markets left. Brandon explains how he accidentally turned an Instagram handle into a real business, how cigar manufacturers choose between brokers vs in-house reps, and why “story” sells more than packaging in premium categories.This is also a surprisingly practical episode for anyone in e-commerce, DTC, or brand building, because the cigar world exposes a truth most modern marketers ignore: People don’t buy products. They buy the experience behind them.What You’ll Learn- What a cigar broker actually does- The 3 ways cigar brands sell- Why relationships beat packaging- How Brandon built Cigar Mechanic- The key question he asks brands- Why cigar lounges are loss leaders- What most cigar shops do wrong- How placement drives sales- Why limited releases fail- The real “cigar culture” advantage- The surprising psychology of memory + products- Why the cigar industry is behind in marketing- How demographics really work in cigars- Why value is personal (even at $300)This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfitsTimestamps:00:00 What Is a Cigar Broker?03:54 Meet Brandon Wells05:07 How Cigar Mechanic Started06:41 The “God Moment”08:43 Cigar Broker Explained09:28 3 Ways Brands Sell12:30 Brandon’s Territory Strategy13:44 The Interview Filter15:59 The Million-Dollar Question18:12 The Worst Cigar Lesson23:11 Story Beats the Product28:12 The Cigar Culture Effect33:49 Why Canada Kills Lounges49:56 How Lounges Make MoneyGuest: Brandon Wells (Cigar Mechanic) Cigar broker, marketer, and founderInstagram: @cigarmechanicYouTube: Cigar MechanicYouTube: Voodoo Monkey GarageAbout Marketing Misfits Marketing Misfits is hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King and features real conversations with operators, founders, and marketers. New episodes every Tuesday.Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

James Friel, systems-focused operator and creator of 57 Hats, helps founders stop doing work they should have left long ago. He breaks down why businesses bleed time and money, how to spot value versus waste, and when to hire, outsource, or automate. Short, practical talk on building systems first, buying back time, and using role clarity to scale without you.