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Persuasion vs Convincing And Why It Changes Everything with Myron Golden | Replay

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Feb 18, 2026

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Myron Golden

Myron Golden, sales expert and coach who helps entrepreneurs hit multi-million results, breaks down why persuasion is different from convincing. He explores mindset+skillset+toolset, selling from the stage, the four buyer identities, preventing objections before they form, and how mastery makes money a byproduct.

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ADVICE

Mindset, Skillset, Toolset Equals Assets

Use the mindset + skillset + toolset formula to create assets and avoid superficial fixes.
Prioritize mindset first, then master skills and only then add tools for leverage.

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ADVICE

Buy Mentorship To Shortcut Mastery

Pay for a mentor who has been there and can teach both skills and mindset.
Paying for mentorship increases focus and accelerates your learning curve significantly.

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ANECDOTE

Lunch With Jerry That Changed Speaking

Myron accepted $20,000 to train a company's reps and then learned speaking tricks from Jerry Clark over lunch.
After implementing those tips he quickly scaled sales from hundreds to thousands of dollars per event.

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Early Sales Story and First Sale

00:19 • 2min

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Network Marketing Lessons and Struggles

02:30 • 3min

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Mindset + Skillset + Toolset Framework

05:51 • 6min

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Transitioning to Speaking and Stage Sales

12:03 • 5min

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Pattern Interruption and Serving Buyers

17:17 • 2min

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The $1.2M In One Hour Client Story

19:01 • 2min

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Buyer Identities: Free, Cheapo, Fee, Premium

20:41 • 6min

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Reframing Objections and Fear of Change

26:20 • 4min

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Price vs Cost Frame to Show Value

30:00 • 4min

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Principles: Serve, Love Clients, Biblical View

34:12 • 4min

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Mastery Mindset and Money As Byproduct

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Selling feels hard when you think your job is to convince people. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Myron Golden, sales expert, business coach, and stage speaker known for helping entrepreneurs produce multi million dollar results, to talk about why persuasion and convincing are not the same thing. Myron shares how he went 18 months without making a single sale before learning how identity, belief systems, and service change everything in the sales process. They talk about why objections are usually created before they are ever spoken, how to become findable to buyers who already want what you offer, the four types of buyers that determine your income ceiling, and why money becomes the byproduct once mastery becomes the focus. If you want selling to feel natural instead of forced, this conversation will change the way you see it.

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction

(00:48) Myron's Entry Into Sales And Early Struggles

(03:02) Why Network Marketing Fails To Teach Selling

(07:56) Mindset + Skillset + Toolset Framework

(12:10) Transitioning Into Selling From Stage

(19:00) The $1.2M In One Hour Client Story

(21:06) The Four Types Of Buyers Explained

(30:03) Preventing Objections Before They Form

(36:27) Becoming Findable To Ready Buyers

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Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112⁠

Connect with Jeremy Miner

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Connect with Myron

Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/themyrongolden/ ⁠

Website: ⁠https://myrongolden.com/ ⁠

YouTube:⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MyronGolden ⁠

TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@myrongoldenofficial ⁠

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