Next Level Podcast with Jeremy Miner

Most people think they need a better product, a better offer, or a better funnel to grow. The real bottleneck is simpler than that: how you describe what you sell. If your words do not make your solution sound as good as it truly is, you lose to competitors with worse products and better communication. Dan Henry is the founder of GetClients.com and a Wall Street Journal bestselling author who has done stage closes for Russell Brunson and built multiple businesses from scratch. In this conversation with Jeremy Miner, Dan reveals the psychology behind why people buy "good sounding" products over good products and shares the Mint.com story where identical products produced wildly different results based on one sentence. Built for anyone in sales, marketing, or leadership who wants to master how they communicate value.Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(08:23) Breaking Down the Best Pitches(14:15) Marie Forleo and the Pedestal Problem(25:06) Buying a Failing Bar and Flipping It (30:30) Marketing vs Sales: Which Matters More(39:36) Pattern Interrupts That Command Attention(48:03) Why Your Brain Fights Every Purchase(55:21) Mint.com: Same Product, $100M DifferenceDan says people buy "good sounding" products, not good products. Comment below: is that true in your industry?Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Connect with Dan: Website: https://getclients.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danhenryrocks/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danhenryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanHenry

What does ambition actually cost the people closest to you? This episode confronts the question most high performers avoid by putting a microphone in front of the people who lived through the grind. If you have ever wondered whether the sacrifice is worth it, or whether your family sees your drive the way you do, this conversation will hit different.Jeremy Miner, founder and chairman of 7th Level and creator of the NEPQ sales methodology, sits down with four of his children for an unscripted conversation about growing up with a father who was always working. They cover what it is like working for your dad, and the one thing his daughter would change about his company culture. This is not a business tactics episode. It is a real look at what high performance looks like from the other side. For anyone building something big who wants to know what their family is actually thinking.Chapters: (00:00) The Miner Kids Unfiltered(06:12) Was He Ready to Be a Dad at 22(18:40) "I Hope" vs "I Will"(25:01) What If Dad Disappeared(31:07) Why Each Kid Joined the Company(46:02) "Your Hustle Culture Is Toxic"(55:17) Being the Boss's Son(01:00:32) The Miner Family Wrap Up He corrected "I hope" to "I will" since his kids were toddlers. Comment below: what did your parents repeat that stuck?Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyMinerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Listen to the Next Level PodcastApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV

High performance mindset, sales psychology, and business growth all come down to one thing most people miss: how the other person feels in the first few minutes. If you are pushing too early, sounding too rehearsed, or trying to force the outcome, you are probably creating resistance before the real conversation even starts.In this episode, Jeremy Miner sits down with Grant Mitt, a young founder who built and scaled a solar sales company after starting in direct sales and adapting fast during Covid. Grant breaks down why top performers do not pitch too early, how tone changes trust, and why perception, certainty, and timing matter more than most people realize. This episode is for ambitious people who want to sell better, lead better, and scale faster without sounding like everybody else.Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(05:59) Learning Sales In Solar(07:07) Starting A Company At 24(11:39) Why Skill Beats The Numbers Game(19:57) Tone, Trust, And Detachment(23:25) Why You Should Not Pitch Early(30:13) Price Versus Real Value(36:37) Where Grant Learned To WinGrant said "playing dumb" closed more deals than expertise ever did. Comment below: do you lead with knowledge or curiosity?Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Connect with Grant: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grantmittFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/grant.mitterlehner/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@grantmitt Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grant-mitterlehner-966343a9/Listen to the Next Level PodcastApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV

Most people lose deals because they never uncover the real problem. They sell to the surface, pitch too early, and wonder why prospects ghost them. This episode breaks down why the person who finds the emotional driver behind every decision wins the deal, the relationship, and the long game. Pace Morby is the host of A&E's Triple Digit Flip, and has built a $450M+ real estate portfolio using creative financing . In this conversation with Jeremy Miner, Pace reveals the framework that won his first deal against 15 competitors, why he intentionally chases rejection before expecting a yes, and how building a community of committed people replaced information as his real growth engine. He also breaks down the mindset shift that took him from general contractor to running 20+ companies: operating from fear of wasted potential, not motivation. This one is for salespeople, entrepreneurs, and anyone stuck confusing preparation with progress.Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(06:15) Find the Bunnies(12:30) Failing With Velocity(18:45) Why Impatience Kills Progress(24:30) Community Over Information(30:15) The Fear That Drives Everything(36:00) What Grit Actually Looks Like(42:00) Work Life Balance Is a Lie(48:15) Selling to the Real Problem(53:30) One Skill That Changed EverythingPace says if information made people rich ChatGPT would have done it. Drop a comment: what did the people around you change the most?Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Listen to the Next Level PodcastApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV

Ambro Di Pilato, Founder and CEO of Netrevenue who builds sales teams for finance, tax, law, and insurance. He warns AI is replacing low-level sales, explains how Netrevenue replaced most SDR work with AI, and urges treating sales like a business. They discuss why tax and legal pay more, what top performers earn, and a five-year timeline to sharpen high-leverage skills.

Most people invest in sales training from someone who never actually sold at the level they want to reach. This episode unpacks why that gap is the hidden reason so many ambitious people stay stuck, and why the cost of inaction is almost always greater than the cost of learning. If you have been grinding without results or wondering why the skills you picked up online are not translating, this conversation will reframe how you think about investing in yourself.Jeremy Miner, founder of 7th Level and creator of the NEPQ methodology, and his business partner Cory Crump, break down the psychology behind why people resist investing in skills, the pattern recognition that separates top performers from everyone else, and why culture, not your offer, determines whether a company scales past $40 million. Built for anyone serious about sales psychology, high performance mindset, and business growth.Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(08:36) Founder Syndrome Nobody Talks About(20:11) Building for the Next Generation(26:06) Culture Is the Only Scaling Strategy(31:52) Why Your Trainer's Resume Matters(37:49) The Trust Recession in This Industry(43:07) Why He Thinks Like a Psychologist(48:11) The Cost of Waiting vs Investing(53:02) Mastery Is Not a Destination(58:32) Pattern Recognition Changes EverythingJeremy says most people hire trainers who never hit the level they teach. Drop a comment: have you ever checked your trainer's actual track record?Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/ The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgBook a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

David Carpenter, a top sales leader and trainer in the insurance space, shares how high performers think and act. He explains why chasing money stalls progress, how the right mentor compresses growth, and the power of building leverage and documenting your journey. Short lessons on spotting bad environments, recruiting leaders, and committing to daily learning.

Anthony Vizzari, VP of Growth at 7th Level and seasoned sales closer, discusses pattern recognition, buyer psychology, and how identity shapes performance. He and Jeremy talk simplifying offers, avoiding overtraining, cultural selling differences, and why mastery comes from thousands of real calls. Expect stories about early failures, shifting tactics, and what separates elite closers from amateurs.

Greg O'Gallagher, founder of KinoBody and lifestyle-driven fitness entrepreneur, shares his movie-star physique approach. He champions progressive overload, low-volume high-intensity training, and stacking small wins. Topics include rejecting bodybuilding extremes, building confidence through consistent inputs, and balancing ambition with lasting health and purpose.

He smashed his own Lamborghini windshield in the middle of Miami to go viral. But that is not why he is winning. Spencer Kozej is a life insurance sales leader who built a virtual sales brand after dropping out of college and moving to Florida. He now recruits and develops young sales professionals by teaching communication, branding, and discipline. In this episode, Spencer explains how your environment shapes belief, why mastering sales guarantees leverage for life, and how to use attention strategically instead of chasing clout. He also shares how faith, accountability, and daily discipline helped him grow in an environment built on distraction. If you are young and serious about building income, influence, and skill, this conversation will challenge the way you think about your future. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction(01:15) Failing School and Questioning the Traditional Path(04:30) The Leap of Faith and Moving to Florida(08:10) Why Mentorship Collapses Time(12:05) Sales as Financial Security for Life(15:20) Using Psychology in Business and Relationships(18:10) Smashing the Lamborghini and Going Viral(20:10) Turning Attention into a Sales Funnel(25:00) Faith, Discipline, and Avoiding Distraction(30:50) Interested vs Committed to Success(33:40) Accountability and Building a Sales TeamAre you committed to mastering a skill that guarantees leverage… or are you still letting your environment decide your future? Leave your answer in the comments.Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI: https://7q.ai/waitlistThe exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-orgPrefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/Connect with Jeremy MinerYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremyminerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52Connect with Spencer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spencer.kozej/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpencerKozej TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/discover/spencer-kozej