The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Break Everything with Rebecca Carr

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Mar 17, 2026
Rebecca Carr, CEO who led SmartRecruiters through an AI-driven pivot and SAP acquisition. She argues for ripping up ATS thinking and rebuilding hiring as agent-driven conversational experiences. Topics include AI replacing interfaces with conversations, trust and transparency in screening, decoupling fraud checks from evaluation, and how AI frees recruiters for higher-value work.
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INSIGHT

AI Pivot Turned Commodity Product Into Category Leader

  • Smart Recruiters pivoted by leaning hard into AI to escape commodity status and become a category leader.
  • Rebecca credits long engineering tenure and a unified product vision for executing a rapid, high-risk transformation that paid off.
ADVICE

Decide Boldly And Protect Your Strategic Bet

  • Decide boldly and say no to incremental customer demands that derail your strategic pivot.
  • Rebecca advises aligning product, go-to-market, and budget up front so teams can sell and build confidently toward one outcome.
ANECDOTE

SAP Embedded Engineers Jump Started Smart Recruiters R&D

  • After acquisition, SAP quickly shifted employees into Smart Recruiters R&D, doubling team size and accelerating the roadmap.
  • Rebecca calls the integration a deliberate test that preserved Smart Recruiters' independence while boosting delivery speed.
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