The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Evergreen Podcasts
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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Mar 27, 2026 • 1h 15min
Here's Why White-Collar Salaries are Collapsing
J.T. O'Donnell, career expert and founder of Work It Daily, joins to unpack the chaotic 2026 labor market. They riff on AI authenticity scandals and the booming AI-clip creator economy. Pay compression, disappearing entry-level roles, and predatory “reverse recruiting” are called out. The conversation also covers NIL impacts on sports and the rise of new AI-driven job types.
Mar 26, 2026 • 6min
Shredded: Findem, Glider AI, Paraform, Deel, Ezra, Novaworks.ai, Adzuna, & More
A rapid news roundup on talent discovery, AI-powered assessments, and recruiter-network expansion. Funding moves and product launches in voice AI, workforce OS platforms, and legal hiring get highlighted. Corporate legal drama and cross-border job board consolidation make headlines. Trends like AI-driven application surges, ghosting, and executive AI assistants are discussed, plus upskilling and talent alignment.
Mar 24, 2026 • 20min
Hacking Jack & Jill
Paul Price, CEO of CodeWall and former penetration tester, tells how autonomous AI agents chained tiny flaws to access recruitment data at major firms. He demos AI social‑engineering of voice bots and deepfake prompts. The conversation highlights parallelized AI attacks, voice cloning risks from seconds of audio, and the push to build AI defenders.
Mar 20, 2026 • 1h 3min
Indeed Desperation & Vibe-Coder Rise
Lieven, European recruiting and tech commentator, brings an international lens on hiring markets, AI, and cybersecurity. They dissect Indeed’s spend-matching tactics and the risks behind incentive plays. They unpack LinkedIn’s AI-powered screening and debate automation’s impact on hiring. They also explore vibe-coding, faster ATS integrations, and Travis Kalanick’s industrial robot push.
Mar 19, 2026 • 6min
Shredded: Gumloop, Carefam, Jobplex, Her Scout, LinkedIn, Blify, Meta, & More
Fast news on a $50M no-code AI agent raise and healthcare hiring tools using AI. Big moves in recruiting: an acquisition boosting founder-led hiring and LinkedIn testing automated video and audio interviews. New startups aim to embed AI learning into Slack and Teams. Industry shifts include rising CHRO/CTO pay, robot rebrands for task work, and sweeping layoffs stirring market reaction.
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Mar 17, 2026 • 1h 15min
Break Everything with Rebecca Carr
Rebecca Carr, CEO who led SmartRecruiters through an AI-driven pivot and SAP acquisition. She argues for ripping up ATS thinking and rebuilding hiring as agent-driven conversational experiences. Topics include AI replacing interfaces with conversations, trust and transparency in screening, decoupling fraud checks from evaluation, and how AI frees recruiters for higher-value work.
Mar 13, 2026 • 1h 12min
(Yet Another) Death of the Resume Debate | Juicebox Makes It Rain
Sharp banter on geopolitics and dark humor around global risk. A fiery debate about whether resumes are dying or just evolving into video-first branding. Discussion of AI risks from Anthropic and who actually faces automation threats. Breakdown of an $80M social hiring bet and why creator-led discovery could reshape recruiting.
Mar 12, 2026 • 6min
Shredded: Korn Ferry, RED Global, LRB Group, Indeed, Microsoft, Yourco, HireVue, & More
Quick takes on steadiness in U.S. jobless claims and shifting macro hiring trends. Financial results from a major talent advisory firm and a strategic acquisition by a Workday consultancy. New tools from job search platforms and Microsoft’s multi-agent AI for workplace collaboration. Funding and buyouts reshaping recruitment tech and frontline intelligence for deskless workers.
Mar 10, 2026 • 47min
Ghosting, Grinding, and Getting Screwed: Job Search in 2026
J.T. O'Donnell, career coach known for practical job-search and mental-health advice, and Jillian O’Malior, employer-branding pro who survived a 15-month search. They tackle ghosting, AI-driven hiring chaos, title compression and wage suppression. They discuss visibility over old networks, ATS failures, brutal applicant experiences, and how authenticity and content can rebuild a damaged job market.
Mar 6, 2026 • 1h 2min
Will ICIMS AI Coalesce?
They riff on travel chaos caused by geopolitical conflict and how leadership instability ripples through organizations. They roast a CEO’s awkward TikTok and debate authenticity on executive social media. They argue about AI-generated ads, privacy, and whether removing humans from marketing is clever or lazy. They dissect a major ATS rebrand and AI relaunch, leadership moves at HR tech roll-ups, and a long-awaited CTO hire at a job board.
