The Ben Azadi Show

Fat Loss Is Not About Calories – The Shocking Insulin and Hunger Truth with Dr. Jason Fung | #1264

Mar 2, 2026
Dr. Jason Fung, nephrologist and author known for work on insulin, fasting, and reversing metabolic disease. He argues obesity and type 2 diabetes are hormonal, not calorie, problems. Short takes on insulin’s role in fat storage, the fat thermostat, why hunger—not willpower—drives overeating, and the three types of hunger shaping behavior.
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ANECDOTE

Teen Son Shows Calories Can Be Burned

  • Jason Fung contrasts his teenage son eating ~5,000 calories while staying lean due to high energy use.
  • He contrasts 800 kcal of cookies (spikes insulin, low satiety) with 800 kcal of salmon (low insulin, high satiety) to illustrate hormonal effects.
ADVICE

Test And Lower Insulin Early

  • Lower insulin to treat insulin resistance by reducing refined carbohydrates and using ketogenic diets or intermittent fasting.
  • Jason Fung recommends checking fasting insulin or fasting C-peptide to detect hyperinsulinemia early and intervene before diabetes develops.
INSIGHT

The Body Has A Fat Thermostat

  • Body fat is regulated by a fat thermostat that adjusts metabolism up or down when weight changes.
  • Force-feeding studies show metabolism rises when fat increases and drops ~400–500 kcal when fat is lost, explaining diet failures.
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