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#864: How to Simplify Your Life in 2026 — New Tips from Anne Lamott, Claire Hughes Johnson, David Yarrow, and Diana Chapman

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May 6, 2026

Claire Hughes Johnson

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David Yarrow

Anne Lamott, beloved novelist, joins leadership coach Diana Chapman, former Stripe COO Claire Hughes Johnson, and wildlife photographer David Yarrow. They swap sharp ideas on saying no, shrinking your circle, people-first decisions, relationship agreements, letting go of obligation, and making more room for curiosity, breath, and family.

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ADVICE

Protect Your Energy With A Smaller Circle

Keep a small circle of true close friends and protect your energy by saying no more often.
David Yarrow cut his list to seven or eight close people and stopped reflexively accepting dinners, requests, and one-to-one asks.

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Why Saying Yes Can Make Life Harder

Claire Hughes Johnson found her overcommitment came from believing usefulness earned love.
She says simplifying life starts with asking why you keep saying yes, not just trying harder to organize the fallout.

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Use A People First Filter For Your Calendar

Choose commitments by prioritizing people first, then define your job for each yes.
Claire Hughes Johnson starts the year with a list of key people, then leaves events once she has done the one thing she came to do.

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Curating a Smaller Circle

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Finding the Real Reason for Yes

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Prioritizing People Over Activities

09:21 • 2min

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Scheduling Self-Retention Habits

Leaving Obligation Behind

16:45 • 3min

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Relationship Rules Reduce Drama

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Holding Work Lightly and Seriously

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Returning to the Goofball Self

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Breathing Into Spaciousness

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Scaling People

Tactics for Management and Company Building

Claire Hughes-Johnson

Scaling People is a detailed roadmap for company builders to put the right operating systems and structures in place to scale their companies sustainably. The book provides tactical guidance on crafting foundational documents, strategic and financial planning, hiring and team development, and feedback and performance mechanisms. It includes dozens of pages of worksheets, templates, exercises, and example documents to help create scalable operating systems and lightweight processes. Drawing on nearly two decades of experience as a Google and Stripe executive, Claire Hughes Johnson offers actionable insights and a human-centric approach to developing talent and building a sustainable, scalable company.

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The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership

A New Paradigm for Sustainable Success

Diana Chapman

Kaley Warner Klemp

Jim Dethmer

This book distinguishes between unconscious and conscious leadership, offering a roadmap to help leaders transition from fear-based to trust-based leadership. The 15 commitments outlined in the book aim to enhance self-awareness, accountability, and collaborative relationships. By practicing these commitments, leaders can achieve more energy, clarity, focus, and healthier relationships, both personally and within their teams. The commitments include ending blame and criticism, speaking candidly, finding unique genius, and creating win-for-all solutions, among others. The authors provide practical exercises and resources to help leaders implement these commitments effectively.

Many of us feel like we’re drowning in invisible complexity. So I wanted to hit pause and ask a simple question: What are 1-3 decisions that could dramatically simplify my life in 2026? To explore that, I invited four long-time listener favorites—Anne Lamott, Claire Hughes Johnson, David Yarrow, and Diana Chapman.

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Connect with David Yarrow: Website | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook

David's previous appearance on this show: David Yarrow on Art, Markets, Business, and Combining It All | The Tim Ferriss Show #443

Connect with Claire Hughes Johnson: LinkedIn | Twitter

Claire's book: Scaling People: Tactics for Management and Company Building

Claire's previous appearance on this show: Claire Hughes Johnson — How to Take Responsibility for Your Life, Create Rules That Work, Stop Being a Victim, Set Strong Boundaries, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show #724

Connect with Diana Chapman: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram

Diana's book: The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership: A New Paradigm for Sustainable Success, co-authored with Jim Dethmer and Kaley Klemp

Diana's previous appearance on this show: Diana Chapman — How to Get Unstuck, Do "The Work," Take Radical Responsibility, and Reduce Drama in Your Life | The Tim Ferriss Show #536

Connect with Anne Lamott: Substack | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Anne's new book: Good Writing: 36 Ways to Improve Your Sentences, co-authored with Neal Allen

Anne's previous appearance on this show: Anne Lamott on Taming Your Inner Critic, Finding Grace, and Prayer | The Tim Ferriss Show #522

Timestamps:

[00:00:00] Start.
[00:02:20] David Yarrow: British photographer in America and an unconventional divorcé.
[00:02:32] The anti-remarriage thesis: why staying single was the boldest simplification of all.
[00:03:19] The unlikely happy ending: ex-spouses who became best friends.
[00:04:58] The friend audit.
[00:06:07] Energy as a luxury brand.
[00:06:34] No agent, no problem: the art of the direct “no.”
[00:07:39] Claire Hughes Johnson: COO, author, and self-described bad simplifier.
[00:07:59] The switch from default yes to default no.
[00:08:39] Root cause analysis on the “yes” problem: earning love through usefulness.
[00:09:21] Arthur Brooks’ flip: think people, not tasks.
[00:10:35] Mission clarity: knowing exactly why you said yes before you walk in the door.
[00:11:16] The “retention exercise”: how Claire negotiated sleep and workouts into her job description.
[00:16:45] Diana Chapman: Conscious Leadership disruptor, professional fear-finder.
[00:17:07] The “whole body yes”: simplicity lives where your inner and outer worlds agree.
[00:17:41] Decision #1: Evicting “should” from the vocabulary entirely.
[00:19:15] Decision #2: The relationship contract — same rules, dramatically less drama.
[00:20:37] The No-Blame Zone: signs on the wall, accountability in the air.
[00:24:02] Curiosity over righteousness, feelings over suppression, play over seriousness.
[00:26:29] How play unlocked a hard conversation.
[00:27:56] Decision #3: Holding two truths — your work matters and the world will survive without you.
[00:30:32] Anne Lamott: 21 books, one husband, and a very heavy 60th birthday.
[00:31:00] Ditching the six-plate act: reclaiming the inner goofball.
[00:32:18] “The point is not to try harder, but to resist less.”
[00:33:18] The belly breath: watching your hand rise as an act of radical simplicity.
[00:33:41] Ram Dass’ heart-nostrils: expanding the spiritual core.
[00:33:59] The third third: borrowed time, intentional days, and tossing boxes out of the plane.

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