The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five)

How to Build a Product Marketing Motion That Works (with Jeff Hardison)

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Mar 5, 2026
Jeff Hardison, VP of Product Marketing at Sanity and former Calendly lead, builds high-performing PMM teams. He talks about structuring groups for both PLG and enterprise, hiring specialists over generalists, running launches that rally the company, and measuring a function that touches every team. Short, tactical frameworks and two revealing interview questions make the conversation practical and punchy.
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ANECDOTE

Early PR Hustle Taught Versatile Marketing Skills

  • Jeff moved from PR to integrated marketing, then to startups where he became the first non-engineering hire and did sales, CS, PM and marketing.
  • That early 'figure it out' agency grind taught him storytelling, hustle, and how to learn products fast.
ADVICE

Create Solutions Marketers For Key Personas

  • Create a solutions marketing function that specializes in ICPs and supports sales with battle cards, PDFs, and cadence copy.
  • Let solutions marketers own persona knowledge and be the bridge between sales, demand gen, and PMMs.
INSIGHT

Full Stack PMMs Break At Scale

  • Trying to force full-stack PMMs to own both consumer experimentation and enterprise enablement breaks teams.
  • Specialization reduces burnout and prevents gaps that harm credibility with product and sales leaders.
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