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Move Toward: IFS Simplified with Jenna Riemersma

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Apr 20, 2026

Jenna Riemersma, a Certified IFS therapist and bestselling author who makes parts work practical, shares the three-step Move Toward tool: Notice, Know, Need. She explains using it in relationships, addiction, and activism. Learn how unblending shifts your energy, why Self-led action preserves humanity, and how to create safe spaces for marginalized voices.

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ANECDOTE

Jenna's Accessibility Journey And Island Move

Jenna moved from Atlanta to a Florida island and wrote Move Toward to make IFS accessible in three simple steps.
She previously wrote Altogether You for faith communities and IFS Integration for therapy integrations.

ADVICE

Use Notice Know Need To Unblend Quickly

Do use the three-step Move Toward tool: Notice, Know, Need to quickly unblend from triggered parts.
Jenna demonstrates noticing an angry part, asking what it wants you to know, then asking what it needs so Self can lead in the moment.

ANECDOTE

Holiday Table Parts Party Example

Personal example: at a holiday parts-party Jenna describes choosing to step away rather than disclose vulnerably to a family that won't hold it.
She models using a protector to excuse yourself for a walk as a safer move.

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I'm excited to welcome Jenna Riemersma back on the podcast for the third time to talk about her new book. She's a certified IFS therapist, bestselling author, and someone committed to making IFS accessible to everyone. Her new book, Move Toward: A Simplified IFS Therapy Tool to Welcome All Parts of You, gives you a simple way to work with parts in the real world, in real time.

In This Episode

The three-step Move Toward tool: Notice, Know, Need
How Self Energy can transform a room of people
What Self-led action looks like when you're in a toxic relationship or a power-down position
Parts-led activism vs. Self-led activism
Why moving against our own parts, and other people's parts, makes suffering worse
IFS and addiction: why fighting parts never works long term

"Every burdened part I take care of inside of me is no longer creating impact in the world around me." -- Jenna Riemersma

Takeaways

Move Toward is not the same as anything goes.
Unblending changes your energy even when nothing on the outside changes. People feel it
Self-led action includes courage, clarity, and the ability to see danger clearly, not just softness and compassion
Parts-led activism burns you out and widens division. Self-led activism keeps your humanity intact
People in marginalized or power-down positions need safe spaces to fully express their parts before deciding how to engage

The Book Move Toward by Jenna Riemersma | jennariemersma.com

About Jenna

Jenna Riemersma is a Certified IFS therapist and IFS Clinical Consultant who specializes in making parts work accessible. She's the best-selling author of several IFS books including Altogether You, IFS Integration, and her newly-released book, Move Toward.

Free resources, worksheets, and guided meditations available on her website and Insight Timer

Episode Sponsor

This episode is sponsored by Souliology.

Souliology offers retreats and immersive learning experiences for IFS professionals, many led by IFS Senior Lead Trainers and eligible for continuing education credits.

Their programs support deep professional and personal growth, offering space to step away from the demands of daily life so you can return to your practice more present and resourced for the clients you serve.

Souliology: Where growth meets depth. Learn more at souliology.com

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