Move-toward versus move-against energy

I'm excited to welcome Jenna Riemersma back on the podcast for the third time to talk about her new book. She's a certified IFS therapist, bestselling author, and someone committed to making IFS accessible to everyone. Her new book, Move Toward: A Simplified IFS Therapy Tool to Welcome All Parts of You, gives you a simple way to work with parts in the real world, in real time.

In This Episode

• The three-step Move Toward tool: Notice, Know, Need
• How Self Energy can transform a room of people
• What Self-led action looks like when you're in a toxic relationship or a power-down position
• Parts-led activism vs. Self-led activism
• Why moving against our own parts, and other people's parts, makes suffering worse
• IFS and addiction: why fighting parts never works long term

"Every burdened part I take care of inside of me is no longer creating impact in the world around me." -- Jenna Riemersma

Takeaways

• Move Toward is not the same as anything goes.
• Unblending changes your energy even when nothing on the outside changes. People feel it
• Self-led action includes courage, clarity, and the ability to see danger clearly, not just softness and compassion
• Parts-led activism burns you out and widens division. Self-led activism keeps your humanity intact
• People in marginalized or power-down positions need safe spaces to fully express their parts before deciding how to engage

The Book Move Toward by Jenna Riemersma | jennariemersma.com

About Jenna

Jenna Riemersma is a Certified IFS therapist and IFS Clinical Consultant who specializes in making parts work accessible. She's the best-selling author of several IFS books including Altogether You, IFS Integration, and her newly-released book, Move Toward.

Free resources, worksheets, and guided meditations available on her website and Insight Timer

This episode is sponsored by Souliology.

Souliology offers retreats and immersive learning experiences for IFS professionals, many led by IFS Senior Lead Trainers and eligible for continuing education credits.

Their programs support deep professional and personal growth, offering space to step away from the demands of daily life so you can return to your practice more present and resourced for the clients you serve.

Souliology: Where growth meets depth. Learn more at souliology.com

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