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How Do You Measure AI Proficiency in Your CS Team? ft. Guy Galon (Obrela)

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Feb 6, 2026
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Guy Galon
Guy Galon, CCO at Obrela and former software engineer, explains how he measures AI capability through curiosity and rapid experiments. He discusses building internal AI in cybersecurity, the Multifaceted CSM framework adding AI proficiency, and three big AI bets for 2026. Short timelines, CS influencing revenue forecasts, and managing AI agents round out the conversation.
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INSIGHT

Multifaceted CSM Framework

  • Guy Galon created a Multifaceted CSM framework to map required domains: project management, data analysis, sales/account management, domain expertise, and now AI proficiency.
  • He hires for at least two facets per CSM and uses AI to augment each skill rather than replace them.
ADVICE

Measure AI By Curiosity And Iteration

  • Measure AI capability by curiosity and a willingness to experiment rather than raw technical credentials.
  • Start with small iterative use cases and demonstrate quick wins before scaling AI initiatives.
ADVICE

Choose Build Or Buy By Data Sensitivity

  • In cybersecurity, inventory what data you will process and confirm compliance before choosing build vs. buy for AI tools.
  • Build internal capabilities for sensitive data and use external tools for non-sensitive customer-management tasks.
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