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The #1 podcast for founders, operators, and investors in B2B tech. Tune in every week to hear Sam Jacobs, AJ Bruno and Asad Zaman discuss and debate the trends, news, and developments impacting the B2B tech world. Enjoy the hot takes, strong opinions, and dry humor.
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May 10, 2026 • 57min
AI Cyber Exec: Vibecoding Is A Security Time Bomb | Ryan Burke, VP Worldwide Sales @ Crogl
Ryan Burke, VP of Worldwide Sales at Crogl and enterprise security veteran, discusses AI-driven cyber risk and vibe-coded software vulnerabilities. He explains how models like Mythos lower attacker costs and why orphaned internal agents create long-term danger. The conversation also covers AI for SOC triage, patching tradeoffs, and security becoming a must-have for acquisitions.
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May 3, 2026 • 1h 2min
Top Investor: AI Killed Most Moats. These 4 Still Work | Liz Christo, Partner @ Stage 2 Capital
Liz Christo, general partner at Stage 2 Capital who invests in early-stage software startups, discusses build versus buy and hidden maintenance costs of DIY AI tools. She covers engineers embedded across departments, inflated TAMs in pitch decks, risks to critical thinking from AI drafting, and which moats still matter like proprietary data, vertical networks, regulation, and systems of record.
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Apr 26, 2026 • 1h 3min
VC Whisperer: There Will Be No Exits For... | Peter Walker, Head of Insights @ Carta
Peter Walker, Senior Director of Insights at Carta, brings private-market data on startups and unicorns. He discusses capital concentration in AI, why fundraising is harder outside the AI cohort, the fading private equity safety net, the rush to become AI-native, the death of long-term product roadmaps, and the widening talent divide favoring top performers.
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Apr 19, 2026 • 56min
The #1 GTM Engineer In The World | Jordan Crawford, Founder @ Blueprint GTM
Jordan Crawford, founder of Blueprint GTM and AI-for-revenue pioneer. He discusses building autonomous pipeline engines, extracting competitor user data at scale, rapid campaign testing and iteration loops, replacing static ICPs with pain-qualified segments, and redesigning RevOps and roles around AI-driven tooling.
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Apr 12, 2026 • 1h 6min
How Top VCs Pick Winners In 2026 | Cassie Young, General Partner @ Primary Venture Partners
Cassie Young, Partner at Primary Venture Partners who leads seed investing and go-to-market thesis work, discusses scaling a contrarian $625M seed fund. She covers AI-native CRMs challenging incumbents, why AI targets a $6T white-collar market, retention risk for AI startups, and the signals Primary uses when writing checks to early GTM founders.
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Apr 5, 2026 • 49min
What World-Class AI in GTM Looks Like | Kyle Norton, CRO @ Owner.com
Kyle Norton, CRO at Owner.com, builds AI-driven revenue systems and centralized intelligence engines. He discusses why starting with mapped, enriched data matters. He explains why centralized AI rollouts outperform decentralized tinkering. He argues most early AI investment should target the top of the funnel to drive pipeline growth.
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Mar 29, 2026 • 1h 1min
Is This The End of Sales As We Know It? (CEO @ 1mind, Amanda Kahlow)
Amanda Kahlow, founder and CEO of OneMind and co-founder of 6sense, builds AI sales agents that qualify buyers, run demos, and close deals. The conversation explores how these 'superhumans' work across the funnel. It covers technical tradeoffs, voice and persona design, measuring AI versus human outcomes, and the near-term roadmap for autonomous revenue agents.
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Mar 22, 2026 • 55min
Why Intercom Destroyed Its Predictable SaaS Revenue
They explain Intercom's radical AI pivot and the tradeoffs of sacrificing predictable seat-based revenue. The hosts unpack how agentic products change unit economics and force much faster growth. They debate rising compute costs, pricing approaches, and why data moats matter. They also cover board dynamics, leadership conviction, and what it takes to refound a company around AI.
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Mar 15, 2026 • 24min
Do SaaS Teams ACTUALLY Need AI?
A heated debate about how to handle team members who resist AI, from nudges and hackathons to cutting ties. Practical tactics for embedding AI into daily pipeline work and mapping tasks to agents. Discussion of urgency and different tolerance levels by seniority. A one-day execution test and warnings against treating AI as an unedited shortcut.
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Mar 8, 2026 • 28min
This is How Tech Executives Will Get Hired in 2026
A rapid guide to moving from legacy SaaS into high-growth AI roles. Practical tips on building demonstrable work product with low-code tools. How to show where AI succeeds and fails as a hiring signal. Ways to combine domain expertise with an AI-first GTM approach. Why staying active on AI social channels and sharing unexpected wins boosts credibility.


