Let's talk Transformation : The business leaders podcast

A crisis is not a dramatic event, but is any situation where circumstances exceed a person’s ability to cope..What does this mean for leadership behaviour and psychological safety in teams ?Jessi and I discuss what trauma actually is and why it is present in organisations. We explore burnout, disengagement, and toxic culture, emphasizing the importance of intentionally designing leadership to counter these issues. Our discussion goes beyond typical well-being perks to explore the invisible dynamics of trauma at work and how leaders can unknowingly amplify it.Jessi Beyer, a crisis mental health clinician and SWAT negotiator, defines a crisis not as a dramatic event, but as any situation where circumstances exceed a person’s ability to cope. This means that seemingly minor deviations in workplace behaviour—like chronic tardiness, increased irritability, or uncharacteristic outbursts—can signal an employee is in crisis. Recognizing these subtle shifts is crucial for early intervention, preventing situations from escalating to more severe emergencies.However, leaving these signs unheard is toxic. Many leaders feel discomfort when addressing an employee’s struggles, often citing lack of time or fear of saying the wrong thing. However, even a brief, genuine moment of connection can make an employee feel seen and less alone, planting a seed for future support and for their nervous system to calm down somewhat. The analogy between an organization and a human nervous system, is so important when we see that a leader’s tone, pacing, and language directly regulate the team’s emotional state. The “vibe” created by leaders profoundly impacts how employees feel, behave, and perform.Leaders who show up with empathy and a willingness to sit with discomfort create an environment where employees feel safe to bring their best selves to work. Listen for further insights and practices to help you anticipate and intentionally regulate your team's nervous systemThe main insights you'll get from this episode are :Prevention starts long before a crisis, responding to people’s worst moments; trauma can show up in everyday situations, hence trauma-informed leadership for situations in which circumstances exceed a person’s ability to cope. In the workplace, deviations from standard behaviour are warning signs for intervention; crisis requires safe regulation and emotional precision must overcome discomfort by creating a moment of connection.It is important to regulate the human nervous system, and organisations are systems that have an impact on their team’s state – an organisational culture must indicate safety, and leaders’ energy has a downstream effect.Culture is what you tolerate, based on lived experience, and leaders can interrupt harm in the moment by questioning to de-escalate the situation; addressing people directly is a way to anticipate the situation.Creating a culture in which other people see the harm demonstrates solidarity and ideally permeates all functions; it must be more than just a box-ticking exercise to dispel hyper-vigilance. A flat hierarchy allows a leader to be approached by taking a curious (and empathetic) view - leaders have experiences that make them toxic, often subconsciously, and psychoeducation can be helpful here. Daily practice to build a positive culture involves applauding the behaviour that you want; engaging in small, interpersonal exchanges makes a big difference, leading to incremental change over time. Awareness when it comes to change starts with recognition before action: the best leaders are often not those with the supervisory title, but those who inspire trust and support, with boundaries, and change lives.Healing from trauma requires learning that you have agency – work can be a place of healing with trauma-informed leadership: recognition, empathy, and a willingness to be uncomfortable and exposed to the full human experience. Compliance in the short term does not ensure professional growth, and leadership requires real listening without fixing, judging or shaming – essentially emotional regulation, restoring capacity, and fuelling performance.Find out more about Jessi and her work here : https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessierinbeyer/https://jessibeyerinternational.com/

Implementing technically perfect solutions often meets unexpected resistance.Even with vast amounts of data and advanced AI, organizations struggle with decision-making.Russell and I explore why this is so. Because the problem isn’t always technical; it’s systemic. We discuss case studies where this happens and we see this pervasive structural issue. Dropping an amazing gadget into an ecosystem without addressing “structural changes” like incentives, rewards, and identity within the organization can lead to rejection. It’s not just about changing tech; it’s about changing the “collective habit of the system.” This idea of small impactful experiments and measurable success is key to creating momentum for adoption and scaling the understanding of the value of AI-human collaboration to drive organizational change.Leaders must address these systemic barriers in order for the organisations to intentionally redesign workflows, processes, relationships and results.What structural changes does your organization need to make to truly embrace AI-driven insights and transform decision-making?The main insights you'll get from this episode are :Decision-making is still a big failure point in transformation; even if data is perfect, humans still don’t make the right decisions due to excessive information and emotional aspects that cloud our judgement.The (dysfunctional) product innovation process clearly displays the consequences of a poor decision over the course of idea to product – despite huge input, many products don’t succeed.The competitive process of gaining customer insight is exacerbated by huge amounts of data and embodies a pervasive incentive system that is punitive if things go wrong or fail.AI makes things worse with a glut of data - we need a balance between humans enabled by AI (to provide sanity checks + intangibles) and the use of AI to synthesise and curate huge volumes of data. To keep humans in the loop, we must intentionally slow down in the rush to automate as AI + human outperforms either on their own; we can partner with AI to make sense of unstructured data as part of a stage gate model.Structural and systemic issues remain obstructive - leaders must disrupt the system to facilitate sustainable transformation, but legacy human systems are not as quick to update/upgrade as legacy tech systems.Leaders need compassion for this evolution and should aim to reshape rather than reduce their organisation; a pragmatic approach to understanding the tech and a vision for the organisation’s purpose and mission are vital.The potential of AI in future could see it empower us to make better decisions; it is time now for action to experiment and succeed on a small scale as a decisive factor for transformation. Find out more about Russell & his work here :https://www.zs.com/https://www.linkedin.com/in/russellsevans/

A special edition episode as part of Podcasthon, the world’s largest charity podcast event. This is dedicated to the Freedom and Justice partnership charity, which aims to bring education and inclusion to child miners in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC).Mark Preston’s journey began in January 2023 after reading “Cobalt Red,” a book that exposed the horrific conditions of artisanal cobalt mining in the DRC. Cobalt, a critical mineral used in modern technology, primarily comes from the DRC, with a significant portion sourced from artisanal mines where an estimated 200,000 children work in dangerous conditions. This realization, coupled with a quote from C.S. Lewis about the tendency to feel without acting, motivated Mark Preston to take action. We walk through their journey from awareness to action : the horror of artisanal mining, their vision for impact and scale and ultimately justice for children through rectifying broken systems.The Freedom and Justice Partnership employs a two-pronged strategy: “ground war” and “air war.” The “ground war” focuses on immediate relief by funding education for former child miners. The “air war” involves advocacy and policy work, with Mark Preston and Carl engaging with Parliament and various committees to influence policy changes. They are particularly focused on the European Union’s Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive, which will hold large companies accountable for their supply chain integrity, creating a cascading compliance effect for smaller businesses.The overarching goal is to rectify broken incentive structures that harm both the environment and people, while simultaneously providing relief to those suffering. We discuss the importance of agency, emphasizing that charity should empower rather than create dependency.Mark Preston encourages listeners to visit freedomandjusticepartnership.org, read “Hell on Rare Earth” to understand the issue, and consider donating to support their cause.Find out more about mark and the partnership here :https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-preston-contact/https://www.freedomandjusticepartnership.orghttps://www.facebook.com/p/The-Freedom-and-Justice-Partnership-61558804512321/Donate here : https://www.freedomandjusticepartnership.org/donate

"Leadership is an art, it’s not just something we do"Research indicates over 75% of leaders remain in reactive behaviour, often avoiding difficult conversations and triggering hyper-vigilance within their teams. This creates an “intention-impact gap,” where good intentions don’t translate into desired outcomes.Susanne and I discuss the antidote to this 'immediacy' and presence. Sounds simple right ? A surprising fact from executive coaching: many powerful leaders struggle with authentic self-expression. Suzanne shares a compelling anecdote from her mother’s barbershop, where high-profile clients found solace in being treated as simply “people,” not titles.This highlights a core business lesson: authenticity builds connection, reducing the “lonely at the top” phenomenon. People stop seeing us and interacting with us as human beings when we lose touch with our true selves. Developing the courage to be “most fully yourself” is a priceless journey, transforming not just personal interactions but also team dynamics and organizational culture.How often do you adjust your communication to fit perceived expectations rather than expressing your genuine thoughts?The insights you'll get from this episode are :This Could be Everything offers actionable exercises for leaders taken from life lessons, e.g. we perceive famous people as less human, powerful people are just people, we must learn how to interact with all types of people.It helps to pay attention to subtle clues, understand how to create a good interpersonal experience, enable people to relax, share things and get to know people – an interest in serving other people requires trusting yourself first.We can recognise authenticity, curiosity, warmth, and openness in people (as well as the opposite), particularly in a work scenario; faking it is uncomfortable for authentic people, and we must grant ourselves the freedom to be ourselves.Outward signs of leaders not trusting themselves are a lack of creativity, innovation, healthy debate, and challenge; not acknowledging the work of others – we can reflect on the quality of our conversations to learn about ourselves.Leadership coaching involves speaking truth to and challenging people in order to advance them - we can all have impact if we share with the intention to serve; leadership is about being brave enough to speak up and following your instinct.Immediacy is one of most important – but underutilised – aspects of coaching, because whatever is happening in the here and now gives a complete picture of how people act in other situations. It can be difficult to build the immediacy muscle without it feeling confrontational - there must be a feeling of safety to address real issues; this can be based on our own personal history of speaking truth but taking small risks improves it over time. To shift out of reactive behaviour leaders need self-compassion and an understanding of their behaviour – it is important to convert the inner critic into an inner champion in order to be able to serve others. Leaders need to foster a different mindset to focus on the positive despite the inevitable negative that comes with the job; they can act by taking on feedback, being curious, learning, adapting, connecting with themselves, being flexible, and having conversations.Artistic unity, as in a piece of art or music intended to create a feeling, is a means of communicating for alignment and results, requiring humanity and emotion to tell a good story – the message is nothing more and nothing less, but ignites hearts and minds; leadership is an art after all.Find out more about Susanne and her work here :https://susannebiro.com/

If you allow people to discover their voice, to claim their space, to set their boundaries… they will speak upMeggi and I discuss the concept of mindful rebellion - which isn't about anarchy, but about strategic influence and finding your voice in complex environments. This discussion explores the psychological impact of organizational identity on personal well-being, the challenges of reinvention, and the power of strategic, quiet disruption within established systems.An interesting take on mindfulness as an antidote to the potential pitfalls of AI. While AI can augment human capabilities, it risks making people “cognitively lazy” by replacing critical thinking and skill development. Learning mindfulness alongside AI skills from a young age can help individuals leverage AI’s benefits while preserving their capacity for presence and independent thought.Mindfulness became a crucial tool in meggi's own journey to prevent burnout and in turn informed her concept of mindful rebellion, a gentle yet powerful approach to challenging the status quo for greater innovation and employee satisfaction.The challenge of distinguishing between healthy self-reflection and destructive self-doubt, and allowing yourself to mourn during transitions, but not getting stuck in a negative space. This resonated deeply with me, as I know how easily we can fall into overthinking, especially when facing big changes or career shifts.How to foster and accompany this change ? The “submarine technique” for creating change within organizations was one idea. Instead of pushing loudly against resistance, working “under the radar,” gathering evidence, and building momentum with champions before emerging. This strategic patience allows new ideas to strengthen and gain support, making it easier for leaders to say “yes.” and enable them to cultivate environments where challenging the status quo leads to greater engagement and retention.This approach feels so relevant in today’s constantly changing workplaces, where reinventing ourselves and our businesses is the new normal for keeping up with technology and market shifts.The main insights you will get from this episode are :Mission-driven organisations can be outwardly compassionate but internally harsh; when organisational and personal identities merge, the outcome is akin to complex family dynamics – difficult moments mean we appreciate what binds us and feel a sense of belonging, but without becoming (too) attached to the need for external validation.We are all constantly evolving, moving through phases of (maybe radical) reinvention, changing priorities, learning from difficult moments along the way - the younger generation do not speak from a place of lived experience or pain and this gap between the generations is widening.Upskilling is the new normal and requires transferrable skills across sectors: our superpowers here are hard skills like craftsmanship (analytical, strategy, etc.) and soft skills like empathy, that come from life experience, e.g. ‘unofficial’ skills from family life or hobbies that can be a USP in bringing our whole selves to a job.The difference between healthy self-reflection and destructive self-doubt is mindfulness – understanding the principles of non-judgement, being aware of a negative mindset, feeling and acknowledging feelings and then letting them pass; artificial positivity can be dangerous, and mastery of self is important (especially in teams).The ‘submarine’ technique can be used to develop positive case studies to convince people of change, i.e. running small side projects under the radar to make the bigger point and then surface with demonstrable success, displaying strategic patience to help leaders support new ideas in a tangible, specific way.‘Mindful rebellion’ (based on the PCM personality model and Rebel Talent by Francesca Gino) is about finding our voice, accepting who we are and speaking up authentically; mindful rebel managers working with mindful rebel talent is a potent combination for successful intrapreneurship, even in bureaucratic setups.William Bridges’ three phases of change – the ending, the neutral zone and new beginnings – emphasise sufficient time in the neutral zone for introspection and challenging old scripts; in the absence of clarity, courage and confidence, the Japanese concept of ikigai is a good starting point for true alignment.Mindfulness can be the antidote to AI, making us aware of the risks - going through the pain ourselves will enable us to derive the biggest benefits from AI; curiosity about mindfulness and rebellion allows us to test them out in micro habit form, experimenting with an open mind and being bold with ideas.Find out more about Meggi and her work here :https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrombach/https://mindset-mastery.ch/https://meggirombach.com/

"What if the secret to leading change was simpler than you think?"Most change models are built for organizations, not people. They're layered, complex, and quietly ignore the messy, human reality of what it actually takes to shift human behaviour at scale.The journey of leadership in an era of constant change demands a shift from traditional, often performative models to a more human-centered approach. By integrating insights from high-performance environments like adaptive sports, leaders can cultivate clarity, provide genuine support, and leverage the undeniable power of encouragement.The three pillars of information, support, and encouragement offer a pragmatic framework for simplifying change, ensuring that transformations are not just enacted but are truly sustainable and impactful. Drawing on lessons from elite and adaptive sport, Carlee unpacks why clarity is the most underused leadership tool in the room, why encouragement isn't soft — it's neurochemical — and why inclusion isn't a values statement, it's a performance strategy.Furthermore, intentional inclusion becomes the non-negotiable foundation for innovation and resilience. As AI reshapes the landscape of talent and work, human-centered leadership, characterized by curiosity, learning out loud, and deep empathy, is more crucial than ever. It’s the human element that will drive AI’s true potential, connecting technology with purpose and fostering cultures where everyone can thrive. The invitation is clear: reflect on what you want to be proud of, and just begin.Whether you're leading a global transformation or a team of five, the fundamentals don't change. And they're more human than most leaders dare to admit.The main insights you'll get from this episode are :Performance happens quickly in sport and is built on the continual pursuit of betterment and excellence to achieve small improvements through hyperfocus and continual refinement.This approach can be transferred to work in the form of incremental gains, priority-setting, awareness of environment, self-leadership, understanding individuals’ needs within the context of the team; the celebratory energy of sport – as well as dealing with both wins and losses – is also very helpful and positive.A holistic approach (physical, emotional, and psychological) and balance are beneficial, but the power of clarity is often lacking in leadership, which requires big picture thinking in a world of change and the confidence to support a team when times are tough.Traditional models for change are coming up against future models – they are helpful but can become overwhelming; consultative conversations are very constructive and simplicity provides clarity, particularly for messy human issues, such as breaking down change into information, support and encouragement.Good support (from leaders) means providing information about what change entails, what development for the new role looks like, removing barriers to support, providing tooling/resources, addressing team dynamics, and making it clear where support comes from (e.g. informal chats, formal company communication channels, internal/external resources [ChatGPT]).Encouragement drives performance and is the anchor for delivering success, and ongoing praise functions as a barometer along the way; inclusion must be intentional and representative - a lack of innovation and reach impacts performance; small adjustments count and provide connection in communities.In terms of inclusion in the workplace, AI brings learnings, insights, skillsets, growth and development, and elevates innovation; we have to shift into an AI mindset of investing in tools and making them accessible, as well as upskilling for career development - leaders must remain human-centered in the face of shiny penny syndrome, learn out loud, and be curious, empathetic and caring. ‘Leading out loud’ means looking ahead and wanting to be proud of one’s achievements as a leader in challenging times; this includes striving for AI excellence to leave a long-term impact – leaders should just begin and continue to take one step at a time as their authentic self.Find out more about Carlee and her work here :https://www.linkedin.com/in/carleeawolfe/https://aceandarrowconsulting.com/about/

The future of digital marketing isn’t about more content; it’s about deeper connections.In an age saturated with AI-generated content, how do businesses ensure their message resonates and builds trust?Wes and I discuss this shift, and that artificial intelligence is forcing us to be more human. For founder-led businesses, this means reflecting the founder’s values and convictions. Small businesses have a distinct advantage here, and large corporations struggle to replicate this personal touch but as AI models become more sophisticated, the challenge for businesses shifts from mere content quantity & quality to genuine quality and uniquely human branding.The strategic move is to focus on what makes your brand uniquely human: case studies, core values, proprietary models, and authentic storytelling. The shift is clear: a strong personal brand, combined with the company brand, creates significant market advantage. This moves beyond traditional lead magnets (like free e-books) which are losing relevance as AI provides instant information. Instead, focus on demonstrating expertise and reliability through genuine connections.How are you leveraging your unique human element to cut through the digital noise and build trust?The main insights you'll get from this episode are :Uncertainty about the future is the death knell for a business’ value and a good motivation to adapt; the founder-led business model requires communication with and the involvement of other team members to bring about change.An AI world demands constant reinvention and questioning; it is difficult to stand out in the marketplace unless a business is unique, but AI means we crave the human element of collaboration and authenticity. It is all about creating relationships/human connection – the goal of social media is to get people off social media onto the website, and the goal of a website is to get people off the website into a human conversation (to make a sale).Smaller, founder-led businesses can leverage advantages and opportunities that are not open to large businesses, with the combination of both a personal and a company brand providing a valuable competitive edge.Privacy is paramount now; LLMs surface the best information, which means companies must provide genuine IP; the tools will get better at presenting this information to the right people at the right time = quality over quantity.LLMs are challenging language and our use of it, and it is important to have a consistent voice and language (style guide) - tools can help by writing copy based on prompts but having your own unique language is powerful. In terms of visibility and branding in a crowded market, it is imperative to focus on the most relevant platforms (e.g. LinkedIn for B2B) and use tools to syndicate out to other platforms - every business has a human story.A high-performing website needs a UX that guides the eye through the core message in order to grasp it and interact with it – vibe coding will advance to meet the needs of website design, where tech provides the labour and the human adds the value (moving from content to process). In the age of LLMs, businesses must build authority, trust and reputation, and indicate their sustainability; visits to websites are still relevant and less traffic does not mean fewer enquiries - qualitative metrics count, and drawing out positive opposites from missteps helps to determine future direction. You can find out more about Wes and his work here :www.uplift360.com.auhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/westowers/

Leadership isn’t about a position; it’s a lifelong practice.This perspective highlights the strategic use of informal networks and collaboration to drive systemic change. For decades, we have had the narrative focused on “fixing women” to fit leadership moulds rather than addressing systemic biases and looking at how to fix the system.In this conversation we explore how the very skills often dismissed as "soft"—context awareness, emotional agility, adaptive thinking, collaborative workload management—are exactly what drives systemic change. Research backs this up: women managers disproportionately champion DEI initiatives and build stronger teams. Yet these skills remain undervalued.Why? Because we haven't disrupted the power dynamics that determine what "leadership" looks like.Real change happens when we: Build cross-functional coalitions; Make implicit power structures more explicit; Consciously leverage privilege to create space for different approaches ;Use informal networks intentionally & strategically to create momentumThis isn't about adding more women to broken systems. It's about redesigning the systems themselves.Jodi generously shares her research, insights and experience as weexplore how leadership, courage, and values converge—and how factors like caregiving, generational wisdom, and a career-long view can transform how we lead today.The main insights you'll get from this episode are :Leadership is about collaborating, creating better workplaces/community environments, and bringing together courage and values - caregiving, generational wisdom and a career-long view of impact can transform leadership.It takes courage to transcend hierarchy - leadership is not a title or position, but a lifelong practice to overcome the fear of retribution; finding moments of clarity aligned with our values makes this easier to withstand.Integrity and clarity bring courage and confidence; we always have agency, which can become leadership capital and have a lasting legacy – the need for women to constantly codeswitch between multiple identities brings many skills, e.g. communication, holding space, EQ, context intelligence, etc.The skills to navigate complexity involve mental and emotional agility; we can use these skills to disrupt systems and biases to leverage strategic thinking and relationships - formal leadership provides a platform and greater sphere of influence (to bring about change).It is important to seek allies in a network of champions and create our own spaces - being effective is an act of disruption and diplomacy, and positioning goals in the context of the mission and organisation appeals to people’s decency.The informal nature of power dynamics makes values-driven leadership difficult to maintain against a backdrop of value clashes – a career journey will wax and wane in terms of value alignment, but courage comes from the collective, by building a diverse and cohesive team in an effective space for shared values.Younger generations see leadership differently, and have more interest in racial justice, feminism, LGBTQ rights, etc. - different experiences give rise to new questions and subsequently new thinking.Smart organisations will capitalise on the knowledge and ideas of young people and bring it to the leadership - intergenerational experiences count and should also counter age and learning humility in both directions.Courage in an (AI-)augmented, hybrid world will still have the same values and practices but there will be a need to create more space for human interaction, for listening, creating feedback loops, and learning about others.It is essential that we develop deeper self-connection and self-trust in the face of buffeting forces – the human operating system doesn’t really change; we must still put people first and recognise our own courage by finding our voice, taking a stand, paying attention to our behaviour in the moment and being generous.Find out more about Jodi and her work here : https://www.jodivandenberg-daves.com/

Is complexity really complex of Productivity pretending to be complex ?Simon and I discuss why this is often observed in organizations. What appears as insurmountable complexity is often rooted in inefficient processes and workflows. The key is distinguishing between inherent complexity and self-imposed inefficiency. Complexity often feels like the default in organizations, making simplicity seem impossible. Given the blurring of boundaries, the shifting paradigms and the need for constant change, we need to review our capacity to manage complexity.Reinvention is key and all transformation shares the same human map – parenting can sharpen leadership skills given that a parent’s mission is not to succeed, but to help others succeed, just as leaders can sharpen their teams skill to develop themselves and each other, and constantly question each others' assumptions.We explore how to frame complexity and how to create space enough to see things differently. For teams, especially in agile and DevOps models, it is so important to understand how teams fit together within the overarching organizational goal. Ideally, interdependencies between teams should be minimized to avoid slowdowns. If interdependencies exist, teams must synchronize their efforts by aligning with the same goal, which informs their prioritization.To truly foster cooperation, and simplify processes, organizations must rethink individualistic incentives like performance reviews and bonuses, moving towards global optimization. Building intentional communities who align and swarm together can also help cut through the chaos of complexity, and become a blueprint for ho to navigate it more effectively;Approaches like sociocracy and visual cause-and-effect diagrams to facilitate collective debugging and ensure that improvement efforts are focused on the right areas, building on the belief that people are good and that understanding complexity requires multiple perspectives and humble challengeWhether it’s in your team, family, or community, knowing your goal and helps you prioritize, say no to distractions, and ultimately, make a significant impact. To move from “doing more” to “doing smarter,” leaders must define clear goals (the “one goal”), then establish the conditions necessary for their teams to achieve them. Just as a gardener provides water and light, a leader cultivates a safe environment, fosters learning, and ensures clear direction. For instance, if a team’s goal is to innovate, the condition might be dedicated “learning time” or a “speak-up” culture to surface roadblocks.Whether it’s in your team, family, or community, knowing your goal and helps you prioritize, say no to distractions, and ultimately, make a significant impact. What is your one goal and how do you actively challenge assumptions within your leadership team to foster genuine improvement?.The main insights you'll get from this episode are :Having shared goals but different approaches rules out a collaborative approach to identify differences, ultimately impacting on decision-making and therefore productivity.Reducing complexity can involve trimming it (by reducing process complexity, for example) or paying more attention to the signals that matter (with a clear goal) – focusing on progress towards a goal minimizes complexity to focus on the goal.Leaders can use the thinking process (five focus steps) from the theory of constraints to decide what to simplify: clarity on a single goal; cause and effect diagram; step into action; filter reality based on the goal; work out the obstacles.Innovation comes from constraints and the biggest obstacle in organisations is assumptions held by leaders; people generally welcome change if it is an improvement, well communicated and well managed.Reinvention is key and all transformation shares the same human map – parenting can sharpen leadership skills given that a parent’s mission is not to succeed, but to help others succeed.Compliance is based on punishment and rewards, whereas choice is the ability to make decisions - in a team environment, the manager’s role is to magnify the role of the team to be better.To progress towards a goal, certain conditions need to be true, and these conditions need to be created – there is no guarantee of success but it increases the chances of success.Creating the conditions for teams to grow together requires the removal of interdependencies – understanding the overarching goal and enabling teams to synchronise (and function independently).The ideal is to have one team across the entire value chain (no interdependencies); otherwise, teams need a shared goal to cooperate (no conflict); goals, performance reviews and bonuses obstruct cooperation by encouraging individualistic performance rather than the collective.Achieving a goal requires learning; intentionality; hearing all voices (diversity); sociocracy/holacracy; we need humans as AI can weaken both our thinking and our (inductive and deductive) logic skills.find out more about simon here :https://curiouscoffee.club/https://www.linkedin.com/in/simoncopsey/

Empathy is no longer a “soft skill”; it is a hard skill, a disciplined practice, and a foundational architecture for organizational successResearch shows that leaders effectively employing empathy boosted productivity by 87%, innovation by 86%, and profit by 84%. These aren’t just “soft skills”; they’re hard metrics that directly impact your bottom line.Melissa and I talk about why leaders often underestimate empathy and how to move past that. If you’ve ever felt like you’re hitting a wall in your leadership, or that your team isn’t as connected as they could be, this may be part of the answer. This is a common leadership pitfall: expecting people to adapt without understanding their perspective.Leaders who lack self-empathy often create roadblocks, forcing their teams to “go around” them to get work done. This isn’t just inefficient; it erodes trust and hinders progress.I particularly loved Melissa's analogy of Stradivarius violins. They are beautiful instruments, but you only get their true value if you know how to play them. Without that skill, its potential remains untapped.Empathy is similar – it’s a powerful tool, but you need to know how to “make the strings sing” in your leadership. Our conversation made me reflect on how many leaders might intellectually understand empathy but struggle to connect and operationalize it daily.We discuss how actionable empathy drives innovation, scales across teams, and why top organizations are placing it at their core. We explore the critical difference between empathy and self-empathy, and how a lack of self-awareness can derail even the best intentions.How do you actively cultivate empathy & perspective-taking in your leadership approach?Melissa shares her experiences, research and insights from working with leadesr and teams all over the globe.The main insights you'll get from this episode are :Making empathy actionable to help leaders operationalise empathy for themselves and their teams, using it to drive innovation and understand connection through perspective-taking.Leaders don’t view empathy as a skill and are often not connected to their people, representing an immovable object that people have to circumnavigate; without actionable empathy for themselves, they cannot apply it to lead others.Helpful to reframe empathy as strategic awareness rather than weakness – it takes courage to practice empathy whilst making difficult decisions; leading well requires the correct perspective.Four steps to self-empathy: self-observation, which leads to self-reflection, which leads to self-awareness, which leads to self-compassion.Judgement and empathy cannot exist in the same place: empathy in action is compassion, and a low-empathy culture ultimately produces weak leadership.An empathic culture has a leader in touch with what’s going on, making everything more efficient - empathy is important for middle management because they lead both up and down, and touch the most people.Practicing empathy takes discipline and energy and empathy fatigue can set in, especially with emotional empathy, which drains neurological reserves.Scaling empathy within leadership is about building a culture, living the asserted values - leaders are often unaware how their actions affect their people, which is the very opposite of inspiration.Operationalising empathy on a sustainable basis must be discussed in teams and integrated; it runs alongside change management and can survive hypergrowth if it is part of the culture and comes from the top.Leadership is an organism, whereas management is a machine - the former grows and requires nurturing; similarly, empathy in an organisation hugely improves productivity, innovation and profit.As a machine, AI has no empathy or perspective, so doubling down on the human connection enables better navigation of AI/tech; training people in empathy will hopefully make compassion the norm.AI can take over menial tasks, leaving people to shape the global perspective, social responsibility, etc.; empathy allows us to tap into human potential, scaling humanity as opposed to tech.Find out more about Melissa and her work here :https://www.amazon.co.uk/Empathic-Leader-Transforms-Leadership-Productivity/dp/1964014581https://eqviaempathy.com/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaoXSEWeILo