

The Digital PR Podcast
Propellernet
The Digital PR Podcast is your essential podcast for all things digital PR. Join Propellernet’s very own Louise Parker and Steve Baker as your hosts who will be chatting with a variety of guest speakers and top industry experts. Make sure to tune in every month for the latest trends, expert insights, and actionable tips for all things PR. We can’t wait for you to join the conversation.
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Oct 5, 2023 • 51min
#13 Navigating the Freelance Landscape in Digital PR with Isa Lavahun
Louise & Steve welcome Isa Lavahun, a seasoned freelance search strategist with 15 years of experience in digital PR, content, social media and influencer marketing. Isa shares her journey from working at Propellernet to becoming a freelancer, highlighting the pros and cons of each role she has taken on, including her experiences in both agency and client-side positions.00:00:07 - Welcome: Louise Parker and Steve Baker introduce the Digital PR Podcast, highlighting the exciting topics and guests to come.00:01:31 - Guest Introduction: Freelance search strategist Isa Lavaughan shares her extensive background in digital PR, content, and influencer marketing, detailing her journey from agency work to freelancing.00:07:41 - The Freelancing Experience: Isa discusses the pros and cons of freelancing, including the flexibility it offers and the challenges of financial security, while reflecting on her preference for this work style.00:12:08 - The Rise of Digital PR Freelancers: The conversation shifts to the increasing number of digital PR freelancers, exploring the reasons behind this trend, including the impact of COVID-19 and the search for work-life balance.00:23:20 - Client Challenges and Gripes: Isa outlines her main frustrations when working with clients, including misconceptions about link volume, understanding the value of digital PR, and the importance of educating clients on SEO.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR PodcastHosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

Oct 3, 2023 • 21min
#12 Finding Your Niche with Maddie Davies
Everyone knows that PR calendars flow on a combination of current events, awareness days, pop culture and seasonality. Sometimes, though, it can be tricky to find an in for your client to get their voice heard above the noise, especially if their offering is seemingly unrelated. This week, Steve is joined by Digital PR Director Maddie Davies, for a chat about how tapping into your client's niche can give a fresh perspective. She details how it worked for one of Propellernet's most successful reactive campaigns, and touches on her favourite niche-based OOH campaign and content campaigns too.00:00:00 - Introduction to the Digital PR Podcast: Louise introduces the new season of the podcast, featuring mini episodes with guests from the Digital PR team at Propellernet.00:01:00 - Maddy Davis Career Journey: Maddy shares her background in journalism and how she transitioned into digital PR, highlighting her experiences and current role at Propellernet.00:02:00 - Understanding Niche in Digital PR: Maddy explains what a niche means in the context of digital PR, emphasising that businesses of all sizes can effectively utilise PR to tap into their specific expertise.00:03:30 - Examples of Niche Campaigns: Maddy discusses her favourite niche campaigns, including a creative Pancake Day story for Rated People, showcasing how to leverage specific expertise for impactful PR.00:17:00 - Advice for Creating Niche Campaigns: Maddy offers practical advice for PR professionals on identifying and developing niche campaigns, including the importance of mapping out client expertise and securing pre-approved quotes.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR PodcastHosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

Sep 28, 2023 • 42min
#11 Crisis Comms: How to Avoid a PR Disaster with Andy Barr
Lou & Steve welcome Andy Barr, the CEO of the award-winning agency 10 Yetis Digital. With nearly 20 years of experience in the industry, Andy shares his insights on digital PR, crisis communications and the evolution of the field. We kick off the conversation by discussing Andy’s diverse background, which includes stints in political analysis and financial services before he ventured into the world of PR. He reflects on how he transitioned from crisis communications to digital PR, emphasising the importance of links and SEO in modern PR strategies. Throughout, Andy offers practical advice on handling PR crises, emphasising transparency and the importance of not lying to cover up mistakes.00:00:07 - Welcome to Season 2 Louise Parker and Steve Baker introduce the second season of the Digital PR Podcast, highlighting exciting topics and their new sponsor, Coveragebook.00:02:04 - Meet Andy Barr Andy Barr, CEO of 10 Yetis Digital, shares his extensive background in PR, from political analysis to crisis communications, and his journey into digital PR.00:05:50 - The Evolution of Digital PR Andy discusses the emergence of digital PR, its relationship with traditional PR, and how the focus on SEO and links has transformed the industry.00:10:31 - Common PR Missteps The hosts and Andy explore frequent mistakes in PR, including the pitfalls of automated outreach and the importance of targeted communication with journalists.00:39:54 - The Future of Digital PR Andy shares his insights on the future of digital PR, touching on the ongoing relevance of links and the potential impact of AI on the industry.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

Sep 26, 2023 • 13min
#10 Embracing AI in Digital PR with Raquel Pinto
For this week's minisode, Lou grabs a quick chat with Propellernet's resident AI whizz, Digital PR Executive Raquel Pinto. Raquel uses AI throughout her work practices, from planning to campaign ideation, and is a huge advocate for AI experimentation across her various social media channels. If you're looking for some great AI insights, you've found the right place.00:00:01 - Introduction to the Minisode Louise introduces the new season of the Digital PR Podcast, featuring mini episodes with team members discussing current topics of interest.00:01:05 - Raquel's Career Journey Raquel shares her unique background transitioning from law and economics to digital marketing, highlighting her passion for the industry.00:02:45 - Embracing AI in Digital PR Raquel discusses the benefits of AI tools like ChatGPT for PR professionals, focusing on data organisation and enhancing writing tasks.00:04:47 - Risks and Considerations of AI The conversation shifts to the potential risks of AI reliance in digital PR, emphasising the importance of human insight and creativity.00:07:17 - The Future of AI in PR Raquel predicts the evolution of digital PR with AI, including the decline of mundane campaigns and a greater emphasis on creativity and unique data interpretation.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

Sep 21, 2023 • 38min
#9 Building Successful Agency Relationships: A Client's Perspective with Amy Smithers
Amy Smithers, Head of Communications at GetAgent, shares her extensive background in journalism & digital PR, particularly within the property sector, and explains her transition from agency to in-house roles. We discuss the challenges and rewards of collaborating with agencies, the significance of quality over quantity in PR results, and the evolving role of AI in the industry.00:00:07 - Introduction to Season Two Louise and Steve welcome listeners back to the Digital PR Podcast, introducing the exciting topics and guests lined up for the new season, including crisis communications and insights from in-house clients.00:01:31 - Client Perspective on Digital PR The hosts introduce Amy Smithers, Head of Communications at GetAgent, who shares her extensive background in journalism and digital PR, discussing her transition from agency to in-house roles.00:04:28 - The Fun of Property PR Amy explains her passion for property PR, highlighting the creative potential in linking various topics to the property sector, and shares a fun example involving Taylor Swift-themed street names.00:08:07 - Working with Agencies Amy discusses the importance of collaboration with agencies like Propellernet, detailing how they complement in-house efforts and the significance of sharing results to evaluate campaign effectiveness.00:30:01 - The Future of Digital PR Amy shares her insights on the future of digital PR, emphasising the role of AI in streamlining processes and the need for authentic brand storytelling through integrated marketing campaigns.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

Sep 18, 2023 • 20min
#8 Leveraging Twitter for Digital PR Success with Abi Bennetts
For the first mini episode of the season, Lou catches up with Digital PR Director at Propellernet, Abi Bennetts. They discuss the pros and cons of using Twitter or X for Digital PR, building your personal brand and tips and advice for using the platform in your day-to-day.00:00:05 - Introduction to the Minisode Louise introduces the new mini episodes of the Digital PR Podcast featuring members of the Propellernet team, starting with Abby.00:01:34 - Abby's Journey in Digital PR Abby shares her background and experiences in digital PR, detailing her career progression and the opportunities that arose from her initial use of Twitter.00:03:39 - Positive Uses of Twitter for Digital PR Abby discusses the benefits of Twitter for networking and personal branding within the digital PR industry, highlighting the community aspect and opportunities for connection.00:07:35 - The Darker Side of Twitter The conversation shifts to the negative aspects of Twitter, including mental health impacts, the potential for critique, and the toxicity that can arise within the industry.00:17:24 - Tips for Using Twitter Effectively Abby offers advice for digital PR professionals on how to use Twitter productively, including setting boundaries and following inspiring industry figures while maintaining a healthy relationship with the platform.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

Sep 14, 2023 • 48min
#7 Digital PR in the US with Bri Godwin Huyke
This week we're discussing digital PR in the US with Bri Godwin Huyke, noting that it is still developing compared to the UK, with many clients lacking a foundational understanding of its benefits. We touch on the differences in pitching styles between US and UK journalists and explore the significance of relevance in link building & differences in client expectations. 00:00:07 - Introduction to Season Two Louise Parker and Steve Baker welcome listeners back to the Digital PR Podcast for its second season, highlighting exciting topics and a new sponsor.00:01:31 - Guest Introduction: Bri Godwin-Hoyk Bri Godwin-Hoyk, a digital PR manager at Journey Further, shares her background and expertise in digital PR, particularly in the US market.00:04:09 - Current State of Digital PR in the US Bri discusses the differences in digital PR maturity between the US and the UK, noting the challenges of educating clients about the benefits of digital PR.00:12:13 - Personalisation in Pitching The conversation shifts to the importance of personalising pitches to US journalists, contrasting it with the UK approach and discussing the impact of relevance.00:18:03 - Differences in Story Styles Bri outlines the types of stories that resonate well with US journalists, emphasising the preference for data-led pieces and the slower pace of placements compared to the UK.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

Feb 1, 2023 • 50min
#6 Understanding Strategy in Digital PR with Sophie Coley
In this episode we welcome the Director of Strategy at Propellernet, Sophie Coley, to discuss the intricacies of digital PR strategy. With over 15 years of experience at Propellernet, Sophie shared her journey from a PR intern to a strategic leader. We discussed the significance of client collaboration in developing effective strategies, noting that clients with a strong strategic appetite tend to yield better results. We touched on the challenges of selling strategy to clients, the importance of ongoing reporting, and how to keep strategies on track. Sophie emphasised strategies should evolve rather than be constantly tweaked in response to every change, advocating for a long-term commitment to strategic goals.00:00:07 - Introduction to the Digital PR Podcast Welcome to the Digital PR Podcast, hosted by Steve Baker and Louise Parker, who share their extensive experience in the digital PR industry and discuss its evolution.00:01:17 - Meet Sophie Coley Sophie Coley, Director of Strategy at Propellernet, shares her journey from PR intern to strategic leader, highlighting her background in journalism and the evolution of PR practices over the years.00:04:34 - Defining PR Strategy Sophie discusses what constitutes a PR strategy, emphasising the importance of understanding goals, target audiences, and the relationship between digital PR and broader SEO strategies.00:09:16 - Strategy vs. Tactics The conversation delves into the common confusion between strategy and tactics, with Sophie explaining how a clear strategy provides direction while tactics are the specific actions taken to achieve those goals.00:13:29 - Client Collaboration in Strategy Development Sophie highlights the significance of client involvement in developing effective strategies, discussing how strategic appetite and collaboration can lead to more successful outcomes in digital PR campaigns.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

Jan 25, 2023 • 57min
#5 New Business Pitching with Mark Perkins
Steve and Lou welcome PR Creative Director Mark Perkins! With nearly 25 years of experience in agency life, Mark shares his insights on the evolving landscape of digital PR, particularly focusing on the nuances of new business pitching. We dive into the complexities of what makes a successful pitch, emphasising that while creative ideas are crucial, they are not the sole factor in winning a client. Mark highlights the importance of understanding the brand, audience, and market dynamics before jumping into creative brainstorming. He stresses the need for a solid strategy based on human insights, which can often be the key to winning pitches.00:00:07 - Introduction to the Podcast Welcome to the Digital PR Podcast, hosted by Steve Baker and Louise Parker, as they discuss the evolving landscape of digital PR and introduce their guest, Mark Perkins.00:01:27 - Meet Mark Perkins Mark Perkins shares his extensive background in PR, detailing his journey from being the first employee at Cow agency to his current role as Creative Director, highlighting his passion for creative and provocative work.00:03:23 - The Importance of Strategy in Pitching Mark discusses the critical role of strategy in new business pitches, emphasising that understanding the brand, audience, and market is essential before diving into creative ideas.00:10:41 - The Value of Tissue Sessions The conversation shifts to the significance of tissue sessions in the pitching process, where ideas can be stress-tested and refined based on client feedback, ensuring alignment with their expectations.00:42:52 - Ideal New Business Pitch Process Mark outlines his vision for a perfect new business pitch process, focusing on clear briefs, thoughtful client engagement, and the importance of receiving constructive feedback, regardless of the pitch outcome.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.

Jan 18, 2023 • 1h 3min
#4 Navigating Relevancy in Digital PR with Gisele Navarro
We had the pleasure of speaking with Gisele Navarro, co-founder of Neomam, renown for exceptional hero content. As we delved into the topic of relevancy in digital PR, Gisele shared her insights on how the concept of relevance has evolved over the years, particularly in the context of link building and content creation. Throughout our conversation, we explored the challenges of defining relevance, especially when it comes to balancing SEO needs with brand messaging. Gisele pointed out that many professionals in the industry tend to be too literal in their interpretation of relevance, which can stifle creativity and limit the potential for innovative campaigns.00:00:07 - Introduction to the Podcast Welcome to the Digital PR Podcast, hosted by Steve Baker and Louise Parker, as they discuss the evolving landscape of digital PR and introduce their guest, Giselle Navarro.00:01:54 - Meet Giselle Navarro Giselle shares her background, including her journey from Argentina to becoming the CEO of Neomam, a renowned content marketing agency, and her passion for content-led link building.00:04:41 - The UK Digital PR Scene The hosts and Giselle discuss the differences in the digital PR industry across the globe, particularly focusing on the UK's advanced approach to content-led link building and the influence of leading agencies.00:09:01 - Understanding Relevancy in Digital PR Giselle explains her perspective on relevancy, highlighting its importance in digital PR and how it has evolved over time, particularly in relation to audience and topic relevance.00:41:05 - Delivering Relevant Work The conversation wraps up with insights on how to ensure the delivery of relevant work through effective client briefs, understanding client needs, and identifying appropriate verticals for campaigns.Check out the full transcript here.–About the Digital PR Podcast Hosted by our very own Heads of PR, Lou and Steve, we recorded our first episode of the Digital PR Podcast back in December 2022, and have had some fascinating conversations with movers and shakers from the PR industry in the UK and further afield, sharing their knowledge and experiences.To let us know about any topics you’d like us to cover or guests you’d like to see (maybe you’d like to be a guest yourself?) drop us a line at dprpodcast@propellernet.co.uk. If you’re really enjoying the show, make sure to rate the podcast 5 stars and leave us a review.The Digital PR Podcast is brought to you by Propellernet and sponsored by Coverage Book. You can also watch on Youtube as a video podcast.To check out our socials and other useful links click here.


