

The Best Ever CRE Show
Joe Fairless
Welcome to the Best Ever CRE Show, the world’s longest-running daily COMMERCIAL real estate podcast. Founded by Joe Fairless, a co-founder of Ashcroft Capital who went from buying $35,000 homes to controlling more than $2.7 billion in real estate assets, the Best Ever CRE Show provides commercial real estate expert insights, education, and timely information to our community of active and passive investors who want to build wealth, build a legacy, and do more good in the world.
So if you want the real stories behind the good, the bad, and the worst ever deals — plus, insights into what really goes on in commercial real estate investing — you’re in the right place. Our hosts interview commercial real estate experts every day to uncover secrets and strategies YOU can use to become a better, more informed investor. This is the Best Ever CRE show.
So if you want the real stories behind the good, the bad, and the worst ever deals — plus, insights into what really goes on in commercial real estate investing — you’re in the right place. Our hosts interview commercial real estate experts every day to uncover secrets and strategies YOU can use to become a better, more informed investor. This is the Best Ever CRE show.
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Dec 17, 2025 • 35min
JF 4122: Bonus Depreciation, Tax Deferral and Cost Seg Timing ft. Chris Streit
In a lively discussion, Chris Streit, CEO of CSA Partners and expert in cost segregation, sheds light on the importance of tax deferral strategies as we approach 2025. He emphasizes that the return of 100% bonus depreciation doesn’t lessen the urgency for cost seg. Chris explains the look-back/catch-up depreciation technique, allowing retroactive savings without amendments. He also dives into the complexities of 1245 recapture and how a 1245 exchange can minimize tax burdens, while highlighting the risks of doing accelerated depreciation incorrectly.

Dec 16, 2025 • 56min
JF 4121: Self Storage Overbuild, Niche Plays and What Still Works ft. Ash Patel
Matt Faircloth interviews Ash Patel, and the two hosts do a 2025 look-back / 2026 look-forward on what they’re seeing across major commercial asset classes—plus where they think real estate operators are headed after the last couple years of “extend and pretend”.
They start with why triple-net retail has stayed surprisingly strong (including the “no new supply” reality) and why office still feels “toxic” for many banks—creating an “office tsunami” of opportunities and pain as debt resets and distressed deals trade at steep discounts.
From there, they dig into multifamily as a tale of two outcomes (legacy fixed-rate wins vs. floating-rate fights), the competitive “insiders only” nature of mobile home parks as private equity pours in, and why self-storage may be overbuilt—while still leaving room for niche plays like wine/boat/RV storage and service-heavy concepts.
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Dec 15, 2025 • 55min
JF 4120: Bigger Checks, Better Terms and Less Stress ft. Maria Zondervan
Richard McGirr interviews Maria Zondervan, a fund-of-funds operator who pivoted from a career as an endangered-species wildlife biologist into multifamily investing after realizing she needed to build legacy wealth for her special-needs son. Maria explains why she disliked directly operating multifamily and instead built a model where she partners with other fund managers to write larger checks, negotiate better tiers/terms, and put more “eyes on the deal” during due diligence. She also breaks down how her group manages risk and investor expectations—doing fewer, higher-quality equity deals and leaning on an income fund for liquidity—plus how she qualifies investors to avoid placing “all their savings” into illiquid syndications. Finally, Maria shares her investor lead-gen approach: primarily in-person education and speaking, with social media used mostly to stay top-of-mind rather than as a primary acquisition channel.
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Dec 14, 2025 • 35min
JF 4119: Recession Edge, Millennial Spending Wave and a New CRE Cycle Ahead with John Chang
John Chang shares insights from the retail real estate sector, highlighting how uncertainty and job growth slowdown are shaping market decisions. He discusses the surprising health of consumer debt relative to income and savings. With millennials entering peak earning years, there's a projected surge in spending of $150 billion. Retail is leading the NCREIF return index and may play a key role in a potential real estate cycle shift in 2026. Chang also explores the implications of Fed rate cuts and labor dynamics influenced by immigration policies.

Dec 13, 2025 • 56min
JF 4118: Depreciation Recapture, 1031 Exchanges and Opportunity Zone Strategies ft. Yonah Weiss
Yonah Weiss, the 'Cost Seg King' and cost segregation expert, dives deep into advanced depreciation strategies. He elucidates how cost segregation can be a powerful cash-flow tool for real estate investors. Topics include depreciation recapture, the nuances of 1031 exchanges, and how short-term rental loopholes can benefit investors. Yonah also shares insights on building a strong LinkedIn presence and the importance of authentic engagement. Plus, he discusses market trends, the impact of AI, and the enduring value of in-person networking.

Dec 12, 2025 • 40min
JF 4117: Public-Private Partnerships, Industrial Growth and Urban Revitalization ft. Lindsay Greene
Lindsay Greene, President & CEO of the Brooklyn Navy Yard Development Corporation, shares insights on transforming the historic Navy Yard into a thriving industrial ecosystem. She discusses the evolution from a shipyard to a modern hub housing over 550 businesses. Lindsay highlights the role of public-private partnerships in financing and redevelopment. Plans for new multi-story buildings and innovative mixed-use spaces, including community-focused retail like Wegmans, showcase the Yard's future as a vibrant community and economic center.

Dec 11, 2025 • 55min
JF 4116: Multifamily Meltdown Risks, Operator Red Flags, and Today’s Opportunities ft. Rod Khleif
In this discussion, Rod Khleif, a seasoned multifamily investor with over 40 years of experience, dives into the complexities of today’s multifamily market. He emphasizes the need for conservative underwriting, realistic rent growth assumptions, and thorough operator due diligence. Rod reveals common mistakes operators make, shares insights on where to find opportunities amidst current market distress, and outlines critical questions for investors. Plus, he offers valuable advice on navigating the next investment cycle wisely.

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Dec 10, 2025 • 46min
JF 4115: Finding Messy Ownership, Negotiating with Heirs and De-Risking Huge Spreads ft. Logan Fullmer
Logan Fullmer, a commercial real estate investor from San Antonio, shares his incredible journey from losing a seven-figure inheritance to building a successful firm focused on distressed properties and title issues. He discusses his method for finding 'unsellable' properties and how he navigates complex legal challenges. Logan emphasizes the importance of negotiation over litigation and explains how he shortens deal cycles while identifying messy heirship as a lucrative opportunity. Tune in for insights on scaling a real estate business and educating aspiring investors!

Dec 9, 2025 • 45min
JF 4114: The Four L’s, Big Lessons and Bigger Goals for 2026 with Richard McGirr
Richard McGirr, founder of Unlimited Capital and expert in capital-raising, shares insights from 2025 using his 'four L's' approach: what he loved, learned, lacked, and longed for. He discusses the power of focusing on a single, high-performing debt fund that raised over $24 million, revealing his strategies for operational mastery and record-breaking fundraising. Richard also emphasizes the importance of integrity in contracts and outlines his ambitious goals for 2026, including developing powerful co-GP partnerships and expanding capital efforts.

Dec 8, 2025 • 1h
JF 4113: When to Sell, What to Buy, and How to Think Like a Pro Investor ft. Bruce Stein
Bruce Stein, a real estate consultant and former fund manager, shares his journey from aspiring architect to industry expert. He offers crucial advice for new investors, emphasizing the importance of staying localized and focusing on one property type. Bruce illustrates how to identify and sell the most troublesome assets in a portfolio, and discusses strategic uses for 1031 exchanges. He highlights the significance of clear communication with investors, maintaining transparency, and aligning investment strategies with personal goals rather than just cap rates.


