No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Tokens Media
What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
Episodes
Mentioned books
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Jan 12, 2026 • 51min
244: Malcolm Gladwell: What a True Crime Reveals About the Sin of Indifference
Malcolm Gladwell, bestselling author and podcaster of Revisionist History, dives deep into the 1988 Alabama murder case and its unsettling revelations about societal indifference. He discusses how powerful storytelling can awaken moral vision by challenging our acceptance of injustice. Gladwell argues that indifference may be the greatest sin of our times and emphasizes the necessity of honoring our community's beauty while acknowledging its flaws. The conversation also touches on the role of storytellers in revealing hidden injustices and the complexities of forgiveness.
10 snips
Jan 9, 2026 • 1h 5min
243: Unabridged Interview: Carlos Whittaker
Carlos Whittaker, an author and social media influencer, shares his transformative journey after realizing he spent the equivalent of 100 days a year on his phone. He details a bold seven-week screen-free experiment living with monks and Amish farmers, during which he rediscovered wonder, presence, and deep human connection. Carlos discusses how this unplugged experience enhanced his cognitive abilities and led him to question technology's role in our lives. He also reflects on the Amish approach to tech, prioritizing closeness and community over convenience.
Jan 7, 2026 • 51min
The Subtext: Knives Out: Wake Up Dead Man
Explore the intriguing layers of faith and leadership in 'Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery'. The hosts delve into contrasting spiritual styles, unraveling the complexities of love, hypocrisy, and power dynamics within church culture. They critique the film's portrayal of Christianity and the nuances it lacks, while also celebrating respectful dialogue between differing beliefs. With insights on storytelling as a medium for theological truths, they highlight themes of spiritual abuse and moral authority. It's a thought-provoking discussion on how art reflects and challenges real-world convictions.
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Jan 5, 2026 • 52min
243: Carlos Whittaker: How to Get Off Your Screen and Into Your Life
In this conversation with Carlos Whittaker, an author and social media influencer, hear how he unplugged from screens for seven weeks. Carlos shares striking results from his experience, including major cognitive gains and a deeper understanding of community from his time with monks and Amish farmers. He emphasizes the lost art of 'wonder,' encouraging listeners to savor life's simple moments rather than rush through them. Explore his insights on technology, relationships, and intentional living, as Carlos inspires us to reclaim presence in our daily lives.
15 snips
Jan 2, 2026 • 55min
242: Unabridged Interview: Charles Duhigg
Charles Duhigg, a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and bestselling author, dives into the science of habits and communication. He reveals how our daily routines shape our character and influence happiness, linking Aristotle’s ideas to modern habit science. Duhigg explains the habit loop of cue, routine, and reward, emphasizing that true change comes from redesigning these elements. He also discusses keystone habits that create positive chain reactions in life and shares insights on better conversation techniques to foster deeper connections.
30 snips
Dec 29, 2025 • 51min
242: Charles Duhigg: Why Habits Matter More Than You Think for Meaningful Living (Best of NSE)
Join Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and bestselling author Charles Duhigg as he delves into the surprising influence of habits on our character and happiness. He connects Aristotle's vision of virtue to modern habit science, emphasizing the importance of the cue-routine-reward loop for lasting change. Duhigg highlights keystone habits that trigger positive chain reactions in our lives and the difference between what we say we want and how we actually behave. Plus, he shares insights from his book Super Communicators on enhancing our relationships through better conversation.
22 snips
Dec 26, 2025 • 1h 15min
241: Unabridged Interview: Sharon McMahon
Sharon McMahon, known as "America's Government Teacher," is an educator and author dedicated to demystifying the U.S. political landscape. In this engaging conversation, she emphasizes the power of nonpartisan discourse and informed civic participation. Sharon shares her experiences from the classroom, advocating for critical thinking over indoctrination. She discusses the necessity of amending the Constitution to reduce money in politics and reflects on her personal journey through hate messages while promoting kindness and resilience.
17 snips
Dec 22, 2025 • 53min
241: What Stayed With Us: Conversations That Shaped 2025
Sheryl Crow, a Grammy-winning musician, shares her journey of healing and authenticity, reflecting on childhood narratives that shaped her identity. She discusses the importance of naming early wounds and how therapy helps dismantle shame. The episode also highlights other inspiring stories, like how small acts of kindness can transform lives, reclaiming trust in our bodies, and staying human in an increasingly AI-driven world. Each narrative encourages listeners to cultivate personal growth and contribute to the greater good.
Dec 19, 2025 • 1h 11min
240: Unabridged Interview: Munther Isaac
Munther Isaac, a Palestinian Christian pastor and theologian, shares his profound insights on navigating faith amidst conflict. He discusses the challenge of loving one’s enemies while witnessing devastation, and emphasizes the importance of nonviolence and creative resistance in the face of oppression. Munther reflects on the dangers of becoming numb to suffering, the misuse of religious language, and critiques of historical narratives surrounding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. His call for justice, hope, and authentic flourishing is a powerful message that resonates deeply.
10 snips
Dec 17, 2025 • 48min
The Subtext: We Are (Estranged) Family
Family estrangement is on the rise, influenced by complex cultural shifts. Savannah and Lee explore how postmodern views change family dynamics and the role of digital culture in normalizing disconnection. They delve into the impact of privilege on relationships, discussing 'luxury beliefs' that enable cutting ties more easily. The duo also emphasizes the need for forgiveness as a path to freedom and offers practical advice for navigating family tensions, urging listeners to approach conflicts with curiosity and grace.
