No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Tokens Media
What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
Episodes
Mentioned books
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May 13, 2026 • 44min
The Subtext: America Reads the Bible
A discussion about a high-profile public reading of Scripture and how sacred text can be used as political theater. They explore selective verse choices and historical parallels like the Slave Bible. The conversation probes the line between civic witness and nationalism and examines controversies such as Tennessee's Ten Commandments bill.
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May 11, 2026 • 51min
261: Tish Harrison Warren: Your Burnout May Be An Invitation to a Meaningful Life
Tish Harrison Warren, an Anglican priest and author of What Grows in Weary Lands, reflects on leaving the NYT and studying early Christian desert wisdom. She explores burnout as an invitation, the value of arduous, rooted practices, faith as daily craft, and embracing limits, Sabbath, and local acts of love. Short, thoughtful, and unexpectedly practical.
May 8, 2026 • 1h 6min
260: Unabridged Interview: Nicholas Ma
Nicholas Ma, filmmaker behind Won't You Be My Neighbor and Leap of Faith, explores faith, community, and empathy through cinema. He recounts making Leap of Faith with pastors wrestling over real theological and cultural divides. Conversations about vulnerability, staying present in pain, and choosing relationship over certainty shape the film. He reflects on friendship across difference and the slow work of change.
May 6, 2026 • 46min
The Subtext: Noah Kahan's New Record Will Make You Go to Therapy Again
A deep dive into a new record that wrestles with home, identity, and seasonal change. Conversations trace songs about attachment, regret, and the ache of lost community. Lyrics spark talk of religious formation, friendship as salvation, and how mobility reshapes belonging. Thoughtful riffs on art, solitude, and whether heartbreak fuels creativity.
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May 4, 2026 • 51min
260: Nicholas Ma: What to Do With the People You Love But Don’t Agree With
Nicholas Ma, documentary filmmaker behind Won't You Be My Neighbor? and Leap of Faith, explores empathy, faith, and how to stay connected across deep differences. He recounts convening pastors with opposing views, the tense line exercise, unexpected vulnerability, and how time, witness, and proximate care can build durable relationships despite disagreement.
May 1, 2026 • 1h 5min
259: Unabridged Interview: Kristin T. Lee
Kristin T. Lee, physician and author of We Mend with Gold, reflects on being a first-generation Chinese American navigating faith and identity. She discusses code-switching, immigrant church life, cultural belonging, critiques of American Christianity, finding diverse theological voices, and the metaphor of kintsugi for embracing brokenness and repair.
Apr 29, 2026 • 33min
The Subtext: Netflix is Boring Because of Our Short Atten—
They debate whether streaming platforms shape stories for distracted viewers and what is lost when narratives are engineered for half-watching. They explore whether content trains short attention spans or simply responds to them. They dig into how phones and bite-sized media change attention, moral formation, and the way stories build connection.
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Apr 27, 2026 • 52min
259: Kristin T. Lee: An Immigrant Daughter’s Reckoning with Faith and Identity
Kristin T. Lee, a primary care physician and author, reflects on being a Chinese American navigating faith and identity. She recounts immigrant church life, code-switching, and questioning inherited American Christianity. Conversations touch on cultural blindspots, community care vs. scarcity, reimagining theology through diverse lenses, and the healing metaphor of kintsugi.
Apr 24, 2026 • 55min
258: Unabridged Interview: Shankar Vedantam
Shankar Vedantam, science journalist and Hidden Brain host who studies how unconscious processes shape behavior. He traces his path from engineering to storytelling. He explores how much of our thinking is hidden, why interviews reveal deeper truths, the role of relationships and authenticity in flourishing, and how curiosity, self-compassion, and perspective help navigate change.
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Apr 22, 2026 • 51min
The Subtext: God Had a Big Week in Pop Culture
They trace a sudden spike of God-talk across pop culture, from a Gen Z artist’s critique of biblical interpretation to viral public theology moments. They dissect controversial comparisons of political figures to sacred figures and a celebrity’s post-crisis embrace of scripture. They also zoom out to a spaceflight Easter reflection that reframes faith and humanity.
