

No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp
Tokens Media
What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
Together we ask:
How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?
What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?
Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?
How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?
If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.
Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.
Episodes
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Mar 27, 2026 • 1h 5min
254: Unabridged Interview: Laurie Santos
Laurie Santos, Yale psychologist who created Psychology and the Good Life, translates happiness science into doable habits. She explores why we miswant things, how social comparison and reference points shape satisfaction, and why real connection, time affluence, gratitude, and small practices matter. She also discusses embracing difficult emotions and turning knowledge into sustainable habits.

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Mar 25, 2026 • 57min
The Subtext: WAR! Part TWO!
A lively classroom-style conversation about dispensationalism and how it shapes political support for modern Israel. They unpack literal readings of Revelation and the theme of martyrdom versus imperial power. The debate moves to Christian ethics in politics, weighing nonviolence against realpolitik and exploring just war criteria and conduct in war.

Mar 23, 2026 • 52min
254: Laurie Santos: The Science of Happiness (and How We Get It Wrong)
Laurie Santos, Yale psychology professor and creator of the hit course Psychology and the Good Life, explains why we often mispredict what will make us happy. She explores miswanting, social comparison, the bronze mindset, and why real connection, time affluence, and small habits matter. Conversations range from comparative cognition to managing perfectionism and turning knowledge into practice.

Mar 20, 2026 • 1h 6min
253: Unabridged Interview: Sonja Lyubomirsky
Sonja Lyubomirsky, psychologist and bestselling author who studies happiness, shares her research on gratitude, kindness, hedonic adaptation, and why life circumstances have limits. She explains how feeling genuinely loved starts with being known. Practical mindsets like curiosity, vulnerable connection, and multiplicity are highlighted as paths to deeper relationships.

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Mar 18, 2026 • 30min
The Subtext: Multi-Level Marketing
A deep dive into the billion-dollar world that turns friendships into sales funnels and targets women. Traces the origins of multi-level marketing and explains how recruiting overtook retail. Examines the math that makes universal success impossible and how community is repackaged as a sales pitch. Looks at industry scale, boom-bust cycles, and why people keep signing up despite losses.

Mar 16, 2026 • 52min
253: Sonja Lyubomirsky: How To Actually Feel Loved
Sonja Lyubomirsky, psychologist and bestselling author who studies happiness and well-being, discusses how feeling loved grows from being known. She explores gratitude, acts of kindness, hedonic adaptation, curiosity-driven connection, vulnerability, and the multiplicity mindset. Short, practical habits and deep listening are highlighted as pathways to more meaningful relationships and lasting happiness.

Mar 13, 2026 • 1h 1min
252: Unabridged Interview: Ronald Rolheiser
Ronald Rolheiser, a Catholic priest and spiritual theologian, reflects on aging as a spiritual invitation. He talks about turning diminishment into a gift. He explores loneliness, grief, forgiveness, and choosing a mellow, grateful heart. He urges letting go, embracing vulnerability, and cultivating wisdom for the final seasons of life.

10 snips
Mar 11, 2026 • 48min
The Subtext: WAR! What Is It Good For?
A probe into how certain theological beliefs shape foreign policy and justify war. A historical tour of Christian nonviolence and the shift toward imperial and crusading mindsets. Discussion of recent reports claiming commanders framed modern conflicts as divine destiny. Examination of dispensationalism, Christian nationalism, and the symbols and rhetoric that connect faith with military action.

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Mar 9, 2026 • 52min
252: Ronald Rolheiser: How to Grow Old Without Growing Bitter
Ronald Rolheiser, a Roman Catholic priest and bestselling spiritual writer, reflects on aging as a spiritual invitation. He discusses grieving to avoid bitterness, choosing how to respond to diminishment, giving your death away as a gift, and practicing gratitude and forgiveness. Short, wise reflections on loneliness, humility, and learning to receive rather than cling.

Mar 6, 2026 • 1h 11min
251: Unabridged Interview: Kim Stanley Robinson
Kim Stanley Robinson, acclaimed sci-fi author of the Mars trilogy and The Ministry for the Future, reflects on climate dread and pragmatic hope. He discusses realistic utopias as ongoing processes. He highlights everyday people, scientific devotion, communal action, and reverence for the biosphere. The conversation balances fear with grounded, collective paths toward less suffering.


